Editorial director of Mother Jones: Giuliani scene is "being described on twitter in a false way"

[TwilightZone]

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Sorry to ruin everyone's fun, but it looks like Rudy's excuse might be legit. It's still highly embarrassing, however, which is a good thing.

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[LisaL]

1. Well, since Rudy's standards seem to be it doesn't matter if it's accurate or not,

why are you working so hard to defend him?

[Frosty02]

2. It is

It's very important that we don't follow the repubs down that road. However, that said, if somebody asks me if it's true I will say I don't know but many people say it is.
I'm not a complete fool.

[LisaL]

3. Here is a different description of what took place.

"On what appear to be hidden cameras, we see Giuliani remove her microphone and ask for her phone number and address as he sits down on the bed. He starts patting her backside as she removes the microphone from his pants. Giuliani then lies down on the bed and starts sticking his hands down his pants in a seemingly suggestive manner."
https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-rudy-giuliani-got-caught-red-handed-with-borats-daughter

[Frosty02]

4. It is

It's very important that we don't follow the repubs down that road. However, that said, if somebody asks me if it's true I will say I don't know but many people say it is.
I'm not a complete fool.

[OnDoutside]

6. Public humiliation is the least he deserves for what he is trying to

do to Biden. Zero pity.

[LanternWaste]

9. This story is certainly brining out the "this makes us look bad" crowd.

[stillcool]

13. must be pretty good...

or, at least they think it is...don't know why they care. He's so good at shoveling it, be nice to see him eat some.

[Kingofalldems]

14. Yep.

[Mr. Ected]

5. Shoe's on the other foot and it sucks to be you Rudy

I simply cannot muster any sympathy for a man who is vigorously attempting to smear as many Bidens as possible whether they deserve it or not. As far as I'm concerned, he's now a known pedophile who will soon be marched to prison for manufacturing false evidence of a crime by an American citizen.

[Nevilledog]

7. This is contrary to what other people who have seen it are saying.

Guess watching it and forming our own opinions is the best course.

[NewJeffCT]

8. And if the actual video comes out & is worse

which several sources say is the case, I would think Rudy should be in big trouble.

Remember - John Edwards & Anthony Weiner initially denied their scandals in the beginning.

[BannonsLiver]

10. Literally every other person who has seen it has the opposite take.

[octoberlib]

11. Ben is actor Richard Dreyfuss' son. Just thought I'd add that in.

As far as Giuliani, I'll watch it myself.

[UTUSN]

20. & Ben does not equate as "MOTHER JONES". He's some sort of wingnut apologist.

There was an item a couple of years ago where "MOTHER JONES" was said to have vouched for some wingnut thing, and it turned out that it was this son-of-Richard dude, who at that time was a "digital editor" or something. It was played up as "MOTHER JONES" was wounding a Lib issue, like giving credibility to the hit job because it was being done by "MOTHER JONES".

Looks like Ben hasn't changed. We need to know more about what his angle is.



******* ON EDIT: I corrected my calling it "ROLLING STONE" to "MOTHER JONES."

[octoberlib]

28. I follow Ben on Twitter

and he’s done this type of shit before.

[UTUSN]

32. My local radio wingnuts went crazy-happy when they thought

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that "MOTHER JONES" had turned wingnut over one pronouncement. It turned out to be just this dude speaking for himself.

Dad is standard Lib, no? So what's the kid's game?



********* ON EDIT: Corrected "ROLLING STONE" to "MOTHER JONES."

[Laelth]

12. Ben, dude. What's motivating you to defend Giuliani so forcefully?

Huh?



Methinks thou protesteth too much.

-Laelth

[BannonsLiver]

16. He also says Giuliani should sue Sacha Baron Cohen.

I get the sense there may be some bad blood between Dreyfus and Baron Cohen that pre dates this incident.

[Laelth]

18. There's got to be something.

Ben’s hearty defense of Giuliani doesn’t pass the smell test.

-Laelth

[Kingofalldems]

15. Does the editor explain why he asked for her phone number?

[crickets]

17. How conveeeenient. You know, I just don't care what his explanation is.

You don't lie down on a bed and stick your hands down your pants that way in front of a woman you aren't dating. Period. You want to tuck your shirt back in? Go into the bathroom, close the door, unzip and tuck your shirt, rezip and go back out the door after you are presentable again.

It's ridiculous to make excuses for this man and his inappropriate behavior.

[58Sunliner]

19. +1,000

[Raven]

21. Who lays down to tuck in their pants?

[58Sunliner]

22. BS. Just ask yourself how many times you laid down to tuck your shirt in.

Hands in the pants? His hands look like they are in his pants. Anyone else would have excused themselves to a bathroom to straighten out their clothing. Check back with us on Friday after you see the movie.

[StClone]

23. Missing the point Sacha Baron Cohen is making

Haven't read all the posts here but Sacha Baron Cohen may have caught Rudy compromised.

But that is not what is really going on in the scene's portrayal. It was a set up of Rudy to show that what happened isn't important (like the Biden BS Rudy pushes) it is producing a story-line of scandal to publicize. I saw this right away and Cohen may have got Rudy to go beyond what was needed for the set up to reveal a real sleaze.

[SlogginThroughIt]

26. Exactly!

[ecstatic]

24. Whatever. Karma's a bitch. Ghouliani has no problem

misrepresenting and outright lying about the Bidens.

Second, I'll make the assessment myself if I ever make the time to watch the ridiculous film. Dreyfuss doesn't get to dictate what occurred unless he was in the room.

[Spazito]

25. There is at least one giant hole in Dreyfuss's defense....

rudy laying sprawled on the bed doesn't say 'just tucking in my shirt' while he puts his hand down his pants.

[BlueNProud]

27. Fuck em, he was playing with his flaccid member and that's that.

[Tommymac]

29. Bullshit. Rudy was fondling himself

My gawd he is on film. The released pictures show no doubt.

He had his gross hand down his pants in front of a woman he just met. In a hotel room. Laying on a bed.

Oh yeah - I always lay down to tuck my shirt in.

Not.

Giuliani is a creepy lying perv and needs to be treated accordingly.

[Jersey Devil]

30. Flicking his Bic or not, Rudy was lying down on a bed with a young girl

He held hands with her, patted her lower back (or worse?) and went into the bedroom, drinking booze with a young woman who was only 24 years old, asked for her address and phone number, so what did he think was going to happen? Whether he was fondling himself or tucking his shirt in, is that how a 75 year old man normally behaves?

[Vinca]

31. Baloney. A person tucks in their shirt standing up.