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bigtree

(93,793 posts)
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 08:38 AM Oct 2020

Graham just broke the rules to advance Amy Coney Barrett's nomination out of the Judiciary Committee

Last edited Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:44 AM - Edit history (1)

Vanita Gupta @vanitaguptaCR
BREAKING: Chairman @LindseyGrahamSC just broke committee rules to advance Amy Coney Barrett’s nomination out of the Senate Judiciary Committee. No Democrats were present. They will do anything to jam through this nominee to rip away health care amid a pandemic. It's disgraceful.









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Graham just broke the rules to advance Amy Coney Barrett's nomination out of the Judiciary Committee (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2020 OP
All their wet dreams coming true with this judge Ohiogal Oct 2020 #1
Reform the courts and let them choke on the ashes. Statistical Oct 2020 #2
I fucking HATE republi-CONS. calimary Oct 2020 #3
How can the vote be "unanimous" when the Democrats weren't present to vote? no_hypocrisy Oct 2020 #4
Where is the Parliamentarian on this? n/t malaise Oct 2020 #5
in committees it's the chairman who rules on those questions, I think bigtree Oct 2020 #10
Can the nomination be voided because of the break in the rules? mfcorey1 Oct 2020 #6
This is what I want to know too. Mike 03 Oct 2020 #8
Biden must use this as evidence that SCROTUS has to be unpacked. lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #11
Nope FBaggins Oct 2020 #34
Senate BLOODBATH eminent. ... ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2020 #7
I hope this act is the last nail in Lindsay Graham's senate re-election coffin. BComplex Oct 2020 #9
What was the committee rule that was broken? dem4decades Oct 2020 #12
In order to vote, the committee must have 2 members of the minority present in order... Spazito Oct 2020 #15
Got it. Thanks dem4decades Oct 2020 #16
Should there have been one Democrat present? dansolo Oct 2020 #26
Good point, I am not sure a quorum call is used in committee, here is what I found... Spazito Oct 2020 #28
They are giving us no choice but to expand the court. LaMouffette Oct 2020 #13
I guess "united" states no longer apply? young_at_heart Oct 2020 #14
yeah "reach across the aisle" my arse... uriel1972 Oct 2020 #18
umm John Nichlos tweet now say This Tweet is unavailable. --when I clicked. riversedge Oct 2020 #17
And what will happen as a result of him doing so? nt Sunsky Oct 2020 #19
Nothing will happen from this. While I understand the "protest," one can't thwart votes by Hoyt Oct 2020 #20
When republicans are in charge... SergeStorms Oct 2020 #21
Leningrad Lindsey is following the Moscow Mitch rule meow2u3 Oct 2020 #22
It doesn't matter. Both Barrett & Kavanaugh represent blood on the Steinbot's hands Tarc Oct 2020 #23
If Graham cheated on this vote can't we have her removed when democrats win? blueinredohio Oct 2020 #24
Maddow last night Shumer said benld74 Oct 2020 #25
You meet partisanship with partisanship when power changes hands bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2020 #29
Power. All these creeps care about is power mvd Oct 2020 #30
That few people wielding supreme power for life needs to be overhauled. Not needed IMHO. Evolve Dammit Oct 2020 #31
They have shown over and over that the rules do not pertain to them. Marrah_Goodman Oct 2020 #32
Taking away health care coverage during a pandemic isn't just disgraceful. crickets Oct 2020 #33
Genocide They_Live Oct 2020 #35
What I love about conservatives catharineg Oct 2020 #36
She is illegitimate. She can be removed as soon as the new senate is seated. The Wielding Truth Oct 2020 #37
How? onenote Oct 2020 #38
Amazing how many gloss over this little detail. nt dware Oct 2020 #40
Really? dware Oct 2020 #39
Illegal procedure. There was no quorum of the approving committee. She must be brought forward again The Wielding Truth Oct 2020 #42
There's no provision in the Constitution for a quorum, dware Oct 2020 #43
Senate rules must be adhered to. The Wielding Truth Oct 2020 #45
Yeah, good luck with that argument. dware Oct 2020 #46
Senate Parliamentarian has power. Am I wrong? Who can call Republicans to task? The Wielding Truth Oct 2020 #48
Look, the plain, simple fact is that once she's seated, dware Oct 2020 #49
I can refuse to go along. You can, too. Truth and rules and laws are being turned inside out. The Wielding Truth Oct 2020 #50
Yes, we can refuse to go along with it, dware Oct 2020 #51
They fight to win for their voters. nt RandiFan1290 Oct 2020 #41
Can we assume Barrett will refuse the nomination since "rule of law" was broken? KentuckyWoman Oct 2020 #44
It's not her call. Her nomination was not moved forward by the procedure in place It has no legs. The Wielding Truth Oct 2020 #47

bigtree

(93,793 posts)
10. in committees it's the chairman who rules on those questions, I think
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 08:48 AM
Oct 2020

...and members can vote to appeal the rule of the chair, simple majority needed.

I'm pretty sure the parliamentarian is for the full Senate.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
11. Biden must use this as evidence that SCROTUS has to be unpacked.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 08:49 AM
Oct 2020

It will help make the case.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,740 posts)
7. Senate BLOODBATH eminent. ...
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 08:46 AM
Oct 2020

Graham, Cornyn, Sasse, and others fortunes just went down the tubes.

BComplex

(9,826 posts)
9. I hope this act is the last nail in Lindsay Graham's senate re-election coffin.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 08:48 AM
Oct 2020

Jaime Harrison needs to show that Graham has just trashed the senate judiciary committee by his actions. No respect at all for the rule of law, or for his own promises.

Spazito

(55,340 posts)
15. In order to vote, the committee must have 2 members of the minority present in order...
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:00 AM
Oct 2020

to form a quorum, no Democrats were present hence no quorum.

dansolo

(5,387 posts)
26. Should there have been one Democrat present?
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:39 AM
Oct 2020

I thought a quorum was assumed unless requested. if so, then that was a screw up on the part of the Democrats. If two minority members are required, then they could have had one member present to request a quorum call.

Spazito

(55,340 posts)
28. Good point, I am not sure a quorum call is used in committee, here is what I found...
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:53 AM
Oct 2020

Rules of Procedure United States
Senate Committee on the Judiciary


III. QUORUMS

1. Seven Members of the Committee, actually present, shall constitute a quorum for the purpose of discussing business. Nine Members of the Committee, including at least two Members of the minority, shall constitute a quorum for the purpose of transacting business. No bill, matter, or nomination shall be ordered reported from the Committee, however, unless a majority of the Committee is actually present at the time such action is taken and a majority of those present support the action taken.

IV. BRINGING A MATTER TO A VOTE

The Chairman shall entertain a non-debatable motion to bring a matter before the Committee to a vote. If there is objection to bring the matter to a vote without further debate, a roll call vote of the Committee shall be taken, and debate shall be terminated if the motion to bring the matter to a vote without further debate passes with twelve votes in the affirmative, one of which must be cast by the minority.


https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/about/rules



LaMouffette

(2,612 posts)
13. They are giving us no choice but to expand the court.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 08:54 AM
Oct 2020

If Biden wins the presidency and we gain control of the Senate, we have to expand the Supreme Court. McConnell, Graham, and the Republican-controlled Senate have now stolen TWO Supreme Court seats.

My picks? Katie Porter and Barack Obama. (If we're going to make Republicans' heads explode, let's make their heads "blow up good, blow up real good!&quot

young_at_heart

(4,027 posts)
14. I guess "united" states no longer apply?
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 08:56 AM
Oct 2020

No attempt to work with Democrats or care in the least about their objections. I wonder what the Founding Fathers would say?

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
18. yeah "reach across the aisle" my arse...
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:24 AM
Oct 2020

bipartisanship be damned, this is about our power!

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
20. Nothing will happen from this. While I understand the "protest," one can't thwart votes by
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:45 AM
Oct 2020

one side not showing up. That's Mickey Mouse when either party tries such stunts. I'm sure GOPers have pulled similar stunts many times in past.

SergeStorms

(20,280 posts)
21. When republicans are in charge...
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:55 AM
Oct 2020

there are no rules. Rules, laws etc. only apply to Democrats. I hope I've cleared this up for everyone.

meow2u3

(25,246 posts)
22. Leningrad Lindsey is following the Moscow Mitch rule
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:56 AM
Oct 2020

"Because we can, we'll make up the rules as we go along."

Tarc

(10,597 posts)
23. It doesn't matter. Both Barrett & Kavanaugh represent blood on the Steinbot's hands
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:03 AM
Oct 2020

This is why I have not spent a second of time arguing against the Barrett nomination.

Elections have consequences, and the far-left Jackpine Radical Stein/Sarandon swill will reap this in droves.

benld74

(10,276 posts)
25. Maddow last night Shumer said
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:37 AM
Oct 2020

Senate GOP has been overruling the Senate parlimentarian at every step.
I guess that is what’s meant by the tweet on Comrade Lindsey above.

bucolic_frolic

(54,633 posts)
27. You meet partisanship with partisanship when power changes hands
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:39 AM
Oct 2020

We'll be excoriated for it, but it's what you do because they did it first. This hypocrisy must end and you end it by reversing their power grab.

Response to bigtree (Original post)

mvd

(65,875 posts)
30. Power. All these creeps care about is power
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 12:03 PM
Oct 2020

I think Biden will support increasing the number of judges. He just is careful now in what he says.

Evolve Dammit

(21,676 posts)
31. That few people wielding supreme power for life needs to be overhauled. Not needed IMHO.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 12:20 PM
Oct 2020

And this nominee is a prize. Michelle Bachman crazy eyes. Missing the big cross of Bondi, Coulter, Ingraham so far... Get the religion out of it for Chrissakes!

crickets

(26,168 posts)
33. Taking away health care coverage during a pandemic isn't just disgraceful.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 12:36 PM
Oct 2020

It's deliberate, premeditated mass murder.

catharineg

(10 posts)
36. What I love about conservatives
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 09:07 PM
Oct 2020

They do lots of religious talk, I guess to imply morality, but they are for corporate welfare(not the welfare of people), they're against obamacare,, they adore the 2nd amendment, are pro-death penalty and antichoice in the name of Jesus,

Funny thing about conservatives, with 86% accuracy, you can tell a lib from a con by looking at an MRI of the brain. Cons have enlarged right amygdala, are driven by fear and squeamish too. It's no wonder they love their guns

onenote

(46,086 posts)
38. How?
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 07:31 AM
Oct 2020

The only way is impeachment by the House and conviction by the Senate and that isn’t happening.

The Wielding Truth

(11,432 posts)
42. Illegal procedure. There was no quorum of the approving committee. She must be brought forward again
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 01:00 PM
Oct 2020

The case must be made or Senate rules are moot.

dware

(17,892 posts)
43. There's no provision in the Constitution for a quorum,
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 01:02 PM
Oct 2020

Moscow Mitch didn't even have to present it to the Judiciary Committee, he could have just brought it to the floor for a vote, as has been noted several times on DU.

dware

(17,892 posts)
46. Yeah, good luck with that argument.
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 01:09 PM
Oct 2020

Since when have the R's respected the Senate rules?

I can guarantee that Barrett will not be removed from the SC.

We stand a far better chance of rebalancing the SC by adding additional seats.

dware

(17,892 posts)
49. Look, the plain, simple fact is that once she's seated,
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 01:44 PM
Oct 2020

she isn't going to be removed just because a dubious rule wasn't followed.

I'm sorry, but that's the reality we live in now.

The Wielding Truth

(11,432 posts)
50. I can refuse to go along. You can, too. Truth and rules and laws are being turned inside out.
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 01:50 PM
Oct 2020

I won't bend over and let them destroy democracy.

dware

(17,892 posts)
51. Yes, we can refuse to go along with it,
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 01:53 PM
Oct 2020

but I also live in reality and reality says that she's not going to be removed unless, she resigns, not happening, she dies, unlikely anytime soon, or she's impeached and removed, which is a pipe dream.

Look, I know your heart is in the right place, but sometimes you just have to face reality that what you hope for just ain't happening.;

Great talking to you and have a pleasant Sunday.

KentuckyWoman

(7,385 posts)
44. Can we assume Barrett will refuse the nomination since "rule of law" was broken?
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 01:06 PM
Oct 2020

Yeah... dream on.

In reality, Judiciary committee might be "Senate rules" or even "tradition" but the US Constitution doesn't say anything about Judiciary Committee. Mitch can do it any way he wants.

The Wielding Truth

(11,432 posts)
47. It's not her call. Her nomination was not moved forward by the procedure in place It has no legs.
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 01:10 PM
Oct 2020
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