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BREAKING: Lindsey Graham just broke committee rules to advance Amy Coney Barrett's nomination (Original Post) EleanorR Oct 2020 OP
Maybe DiFi can give him another hug. NT. Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #1
Rules do not apply to republicans Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #2
and here's a 'fun' fact EleanorR Oct 2020 #3
Minority rule PJMcK Oct 2020 #17
THIS should help Joe!! bluestarone Oct 2020 #4
Yes! MoonRiver Oct 2020 #6
We believe in upholding the rule of law, unless cheating can help us win. BKDem Oct 2020 #5
I heard they were just going to change the quorum requirement so they could pass her Takket Oct 2020 #7
Did anyone actually believe they wouldn't break every rules in the book Claustrum Oct 2020 #8
so she can be impeached or the Democrats can do whatever they need to constitutionally to fix samsingh Oct 2020 #9
There is no scenario we will have enough votes to remove her if she is impeached PTWB Oct 2020 #11
Democrats wouldn't need to impeach her. WSHazel Oct 2020 #19
It doesn't work that way. PTWB Oct 2020 #20
If I show up at a company and claim I work there WSHazel Oct 2020 #22
Your analogy doesn't work. PTWB Oct 2020 #23
The Constitution? WSHazel Oct 2020 #27
No FBaggins Oct 2020 #26
If Dems take the Senate I hope Chuck Schumer comradebillyboy Oct 2020 #10
"He needs to be as tough and ruthless as Mitch." LenaBaby61 Oct 2020 #15
I agree with you, FoxNewsSucks Oct 2020 #18
Ratfuckers of the highest order. CrispyQ Oct 2020 #12
Barrett's nomination was what's wrong. Going ahead with a vote when the entire opposition Hoyt Oct 2020 #13
Need to have new rules. LiberalArkie Oct 2020 #14
LIVE Live: Senate Democrats Speak After Boycotting Vote To Advance Amy Coney Barrett NBC News Lars39 Oct 2020 #16
I hope he gets handed a pink slip in a couple weeks. Norbert Oct 2020 #21
Who Lindsey??? bdamomma Oct 2020 #25
This is why I think Linsey must have some real dirt to hide Piasladic Oct 2020 #24

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
17. Minority rule
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:00 AM
Oct 2020

It's the only way Republicans can hold onto power. They have no interest in working for the American people.

They aren't Americans. They're autocrats and theocrats.

And criminals.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
8. Did anyone actually believe they wouldn't break every rules in the book
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:42 AM
Oct 2020

if it means getting her on the SC? My opinion hasn't changed since the day RGB died that we have lost that seat. There is no public opinion or anything else that will stop the republicans.

Only solution is to get a democratic trifecta and unpack the court.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
11. There is no scenario we will have enough votes to remove her if she is impeached
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:45 AM
Oct 2020

Which she almost certainly will not be.

Impeachment and removal should not be considered a solution - ever - unless we have a 2/3rds majority in the senate.

WSHazel

(159 posts)
19. Democrats wouldn't need to impeach her.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:20 AM
Oct 2020

They would just state that she was never validly confirmed. the Supreme Court would be in legal no man's land if they let her rule on a single case.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
20. It doesn't work that way.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 12:01 PM
Oct 2020

Asserting that someone isn't validly confirmed is not a remedy.

I assert that Donald Trump wasn't validly elected. Must he step down now?

WSHazel

(159 posts)
22. If I show up at a company and claim I work there
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 01:19 PM
Oct 2020

just because I had an interview and a friend of mine at the company said that I could work there doesn't mean I was legally hired. I have to be offered by someone that is legally authorized to do so.

Likewise, if there was a legal procedure for confirmation, and the Republicans did not abide by it, then the confirmation did not occur. Is that what happened? What is the legal process for confirmation?

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
23. Your analogy doesn't work.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 01:25 PM
Oct 2020

The President has nominated her. The senate is going to vote to confirm her. Once nominated and confirmed it is over - it is a lifetime appointment.

Show me where the constitution says that we can remove a Justice because Republicans played fast and loose with committee rules.

Our recourse is to expand the court, implement the Wyoming rule, add states to the union, and enact meaningful voter protections.

WSHazel

(159 posts)
27. The Constitution?
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 03:04 PM
Oct 2020

We are way past the Constitution at this point.

Democrats have to decide how tough they want to play. If there is a legal process for nominating a Justice that was not followed, then that Justice was not confirmed. Notify the Court that any ruling she makes will be invalid and nullified. Biden should say, paraphrasing the shithead Andrew Jackson, that "McConnell has made his decision, now let him enforce it." That will be hard for the Senate Minority Leader to do.

I am personally in favor of destroying the Supreme Court completely and starting from scratch. That would take both sides ignoring all accepted norms and customs about the Court. One side has already done that, now it is our turn.

FBaggins

(26,737 posts)
26. No
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 01:58 PM
Oct 2020

There is no constitutional requirement for the judiciary committee to even make a recommendation.

So, even if we could argue that the vote was not valid... there would still be nothing that could be done if a majority of senators voted to confirm her.

comradebillyboy

(10,147 posts)
10. If Dems take the Senate I hope Chuck Schumer
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:44 AM
Oct 2020

is willing to play hardball. He needs to be as tough and ruthless as Mitch.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
15. "He needs to be as tough and ruthless as Mitch."
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:54 AM
Oct 2020

Sadly, I'm not seeing that happen. A little hard ball here and there is going to do NOTHING to stop the party of putin. Dems have to be WILLING to grind the broken glass bottle into the party of putin's hands until their hands bleed and are completely shredded.

Do you think Schumer is capable of that? I don't. Even though the party of putin is willing to murder more people by doing nothing to stop tRumpcaronavirus-45, but by also removing the ACA in total only to replace it with NOTHING, so that many more will die without health care or pre-existing coverage.

Prove me completely wrong Schumer should the Dems get the trifecta on November 3rd.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
13. Barrett's nomination was what's wrong. Going ahead with a vote when the entire opposition
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:52 AM
Oct 2020

party refuses to show up, is something I'd expect if Democrats controlled the Committee. Heck, if we are fortunate enough to regain Senate, I'd hate to see similar protests by GOPers stopping nominations, new legislation, etc.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
25. Who Lindsey???
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 01:30 PM
Oct 2020

He's nothing but a parasite.

I hope Jaime beats him.

Crap another worthless Judge.

This is how they honor RBG??? with a Handmaid??? She is bad news period.

Piasladic

(1,160 posts)
24. This is why I think Linsey must have some real dirt to hide
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 01:27 PM
Oct 2020

I don't think this will help him with his reelections (which I fervently pray he'll lose). It must be something else compelling him to be such a toady.

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