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BlueWavePsych

(2,635 posts)
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 03:14 PM Oct 2020

Drumpf is doing worse than it seems -- but reporters are afraid to say so

Any previous campaign in Trump’s circumstances — bad polls nationally, behind in multiple must-win states, coming after four years of low favorability ratings and steady off-year and midterm losses for the party he leads — would be facing coverage that would be the political equivalent of a hospital vigil for a very sick patient.

Veterans of past losing campaigns say that such coverage often creates its own hopeless reality. Everything an underdog candidate tries to do to change his or her circumstances is described through an interpretive filter that amounts to “check out the latest from this loser.”

In Trump’s case, however, many journalists (including the two of us on this story) emerged from the 2016 race wondering if Trump is the political equivalent of Hannibal Lecter. Sure, he’s in captivity now, but an escape may be imminent — in which case he’ll be eating pundit predictions with fava beans and a nice Chianti.

Generally, Trump has avoided this phenomenon. While there is lots of coverage illuminating the reasons he is in trouble, or even forecasting that defeat is significantly more probable than victory, the dominant storyline is far from, “Why even bother waiting for Election Day — let’s just admit this thing is over.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/21/trump-coverage-media-430982

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Drumpf is doing worse than it seems -- but reporters are afraid to say so (Original Post) BlueWavePsych Oct 2020 OP
Yup. Always grading Trump on a curve. Statistical Oct 2020 #1
It is all about the horse race narrative Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #7
"By historical standards, Trump's coverage is actually favorable" dalton99a Oct 2020 #2
Because they cheat edhopper Oct 2020 #3
Heh - Mossfern Oct 2020 #4
I think the media realizes how much of a role they played in 2016 by calling it OVER underpants Oct 2020 #5
You are being far too generous in aligning any feelings Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2020 #6
If it's plenty possible, can you please explain how? Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2020 #15
The lower courts have decimated almost every Trump election case. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #16
Nah. You give him way too much credit. Turin_C3PO Oct 2020 #13
Nothing demonstrates the existence of white male privilege than the way Trump is treated. yardwork Oct 2020 #9
A few replies here miss the point entirely. 2016 changed things. Drunken Irishman Oct 2020 #10
what also changed stopdiggin Oct 2020 #14
If That's What RobinA Oct 2020 #12

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
1. Yup. Always grading Trump on a curve.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 03:18 PM
Oct 2020

Also they got to have the horsie race. Lets be honest no major candidate has done as badly as Trump is doing this election cycle while everyone pretends this is normal and he has a "strategy.

Even Obama in 2004 was only polling up 5 just prior to election day (he ended up winning by 7) and that was the most one sided election in recent history. If Romney had been down 10 nobody would be pretending it was a close race. They would be asking the Romney campaign hard questions about why their candidate is not connecting with voters and do they fear a GOP bloodbath.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
7. It is all about the horse race narrative
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 03:40 PM
Oct 2020

If the race is over, then no one watches the filler they present between ads for drugs we never knew we needed.

dalton99a

(81,450 posts)
2. "By historical standards, Trump's coverage is actually favorable"
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 03:21 PM
Oct 2020

They always bend over backwards and sideways to give him the benefit of the doubt




underpants

(182,769 posts)
5. I think the media realizes how much of a role they played in 2016 by calling it OVER
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 03:28 PM
Oct 2020

which clearly suppressed turnout. They have reported on it but I think internally (including the industry) they know how much impact they had and the disastrous results.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
8. You are being far too generous in aligning any feelings
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 03:41 PM
Oct 2020

such as guilt to corporate media. They are only there for the ratings and nothing more.

Response to BlueWavePsych (Original post)

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
11. If it's plenty possible, can you please explain how?
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 03:48 PM
Oct 2020

And I don't want to hear about how he'll rig the votes unless you have an explanation for how he'll do it undetected in states with Democratic SoS.

Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #11)

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
16. The lower courts have decimated almost every Trump election case.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 07:27 PM
Oct 2020

But pushing the idea that it's plenty possible, if not likely, he'll cheat and win anyway is a great way to keep people from voting.

Way to try to depress turnout.

Turin_C3PO

(13,964 posts)
13. Nah. You give him way too much credit.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 03:56 PM
Oct 2020

He and his team are the biggest idiots this country has ever seen. He won't steal the election.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
9. Nothing demonstrates the existence of white male privilege than the way Trump is treated.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 03:42 PM
Oct 2020

As a middle-aged White woman the hypocrisy makes me sick. I can only imagine how Black and other minority women and men feel.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
10. A few replies here miss the point entirely. 2016 changed things.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 03:46 PM
Oct 2020

Most everyone four years ago grave danced and discounted his chances to win and he won. Now he's president, which makes him an even bigger threat, and it's no wonder they don't come out and call the race like four years ago.

I remember an SNL debat skit where they ssid Hillary was president already. It's on YT and really painful to watch in retrospect.

I don't blame the media for being cautious after getting burned four years ago.

stopdiggin

(11,295 posts)
14. what also changed
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 04:54 PM
Oct 2020

is that a lot of people (media included) had to wake up to the fact that -- yes, large numbers of Americans would vote for a creature such as Donald Trump. And, prior to 2016, that just wasn't possible (except in small pockets of the country). Wrong!

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
12. If That's What
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 03:53 PM
Oct 2020

is happening, I'm just as glad. The last thing we want is tales of his imminent loss to bring supporters out of the woodwork, or keep our people home because Biden is a walk.

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