**** unOfficial Debate Thread #2 *****

[Renew Deal]

Thread #1: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214339630

Thread #3: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214339636

[MissB]

1. Pillows and sheets? That made no sense

Even joe was like WTF?

[underpants]

2. He thinks he's debating pillow guy.

[fishwax]

10. dude is off the rails right now, talking about random emails and news conferences and

[fishwax]

3. indeed

[liberal N proud]

6. He is channeling the My Pillow Guy

[kskiska]

9. Maybe a plug for Mr. My Pillow

He sells sheets and towels in addition to pillows.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

11. He is friends with the My Pillow Guy

right?

[littlemissmartypants]

4. Thanks. ❤ nt

[phylny]

5. Here comes the dirt.

[Doreen]

7. OMG!! donny referring to himself in third person.

[Marius25]

8. I want Trump to hurry up and explode.

[BumRushDaShow]

12. WTF emails?

[fishwax]

15. yeah, wrong opponent/election, I guess?

[yellowdogintexas]

13. Joe's facial expressions are totally awesome aren't they?

When 45 said $3 million from RUssia I thought Joe was going to crack up

[MissB]

16. It's the accountants fault again. Yeah right

No one believes this. No one.

[femmedem]

86. They are! He and Kamala are so wonderfully expressive. n/t

[Lock him up.]

14. When are they gonna cut his mike off?????

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. Only in the 2 minutes segments. Rest is freeforall. . . nt

[DBoon]

23. There is something else that should be cut off

my dog could tell you about that

[FirstLight]

17. can I even understand wtf trump is even SAYING????

the bit about Biden having tons of money from Russia?

oh! He challenged him to address it now....

yeah! Go Joe...CHINA! HA!

[TexasBushwhacker]

18. Trump gets international money laundered through his businesses

[phylny]

19. "Sir" - there it is. Sir, you prepaid tens of millions of dollars!

[fishwax]

20. he's called his accountants to release his returns as soon as he can, lol ... probably right after

he comes out with the health care plan he's been promising for years.

[EndlessWire]

28. Yeah! n/t

[onecaliberal]

29. He can now. A court has ordered them released on two occasions.

[central scrutinizer]

91. As soon as infrastructure week is completed

[Renew Deal]

22. He "prepaid" taxes

[EndlessWire]

40. LOL! He's such a great businessman! n/t

[fishwax]

24. what ... the ... fuck ... is ... he ... talking about?

[IcyPeas]

32. awww da IRS doesn't like donny

everybody is against him.

[uponit7771]

39. +1, the steroids are either kicking in or wearing off ... this looks horrible for Red Don.

[Lars39]

25. They treat me badly at the IRS lol

[uponit7771]

26. Trumps goal is to claim same same in regards to taking money from Russia

[russiamommy]

27. He's so full of shit

[MissB]

30. Show us the taxes.

Good job calling him out.

[tinrobot]

31. The "I know you are but what am I..." defense

Knock it off, Francis.

[uponit7771]

46. +1

[fishwax]

33. poor trump ... he gets treated very unfairly by the irs

[elleng]

34. Thanks for #2.

It's all clear as mud, as trump wants.

[littlemissmartypants]

35. I wish I had a dollar for each time he used the word "I"

he's such an egomaniac.

[sprinkleeninow]

36. why is she letting him run his yap...

[Vivienne235729]

37. She sure lets trump talk a lot. This is ridiculous.

[yellowdogintexas]

122. she is letting him hang himself, to a certain degree

He is making himself look worse and worse...and Joe just stands there and smiles through it

[Vivienne235729]

138. I agree. To a degree. He just hung himself w obamacare.

[Thekaspervote]

142. That was their final plan for the debate..let trump be trump and Joe keep his cool

[MissB]

38. Loved the subtle rolling of eyes

Good job Joe

[phylny]

41. Woe is Trump! They spied, I was put through a witchhunt

*We are supposed to be talking about taxes and foreign money*

[Lock him up.]

42. AUDITS is NOT an EXCUSE!

[KentuckyWoman]

43. Boo hoo I am a Victim boo hoo.

What a wuss.

[Renew Deal]

44. Question to Biden about his son

[Mossfern]

45. Trump still whining

attacking Biden's family and that Joe gets a cut.
Qanon stuff?

[jimlup]

47. I'm not liking the moderator ...

she throws Trump a bone and throws Joe a burr... NOT OK

[GoCubsGo]

48. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!

Poor, poor pitiful me!

What a goddamn whiner.

[Jirel]

49. Cut his mic.

Enough. He’s now in full filibuster mode..

[LeftInTX]

50. The moderator needs to mute Trump

Not following their rule!

[lunasun]

51. What happened to the mute button ? Has it been used at all? Just tuning in

Thanks for this thread I can go back and see what I missed in the beginning

[marlakay]

57. Its only used at start of every 15 min

Questions

[lunasun]

78. Thanks -he won't let some stuff go I thought he could be muted for her to move on 😕

[Claustrum]

63. The muting only happens at the beginning of each section when each candidate gets 2 mins to answer

the top line question. Then it's free for all.

[lunasun]

101. Thanks. I could not be the moderator. I would be using the mute on trump all the time as he blabs on

[Claustrum]

115. While I hate hearing Trump and his lies, at least he is more controlled this time.

Yes, he is still talking way too much and probably takes up 2/3 of the time. But Biden can get his points out without Trump going nuts like the first debate. So I would say there isn't a need for mute so far.

[uponit7771]

52. Trumps just making crap up as he talks

[elleng]

67. Right, that's his game, MUD MUD MUD.

[IcyPeas]

53. accordion hands then point, accordion hands then point

[Maru Kitteh]

65. When the invisible accordion comes out you know he's thrashing and sinking.

[Renew Deal]

54. Question to Trump about his businesses

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

55. Woe is me I'm so picked on

[sprinkleeninow]

56. cut his mic!!

[phylny]

66. Yes!

[littlemissmartypants]

58. Who's getting the most talk time? She needs to quit letting spanky

ramble.

[FirstLight]

59. HA! This guy is the one who tried to bribe Ukraine for dirt on me...

WHICH IS WHY HE WAS IMPEACHED

[phylny]

60. Trump - I have bank accounts all over the world.

(and "excuse me" to Kristen Welker who wants to move him along.)

[Mossfern]

61. Trump says he closed China account

before he ran.

[Renew Deal]

62. Question to Biden about "China". Would you make China pay?

Biden: He'd follow international norms.

[Sunsky]

64. So Trump can answer everything he feels like but

Biden cannot. This is a joke.

[crimycarny]

68. I'm so so soooooooooo tired of China, Hunter, blah blah balh

The debate is 40 minutes in and that’s all we’re talking about! And the lies just keep flowing.

Can we just shut up about China????????????????????????????!!!!!!

[MissB]

69. Biden would make China pay by the rules.

Biden says that trump embraces the thugs and puts his finger in the eyes of our allies.

[peacebuzzard]

70. the moderator has no control over dump

lets him ramble on. no muting.

[frazzled]

104. She does not get to mute

A director behind the scenes mutes, and according to the rules, only during the 2 minute response to an initial question asked by the moderator. No muting during back and forth response time.

She needs to ask more 2-minute questions and limit the responses.

[uponit7771]

71. Trump doesn't understand trade deficits

[still_one]

73. +++

[EndlessWire]

72. All this is doing for me

is make me despise him more. He's such a liar.

[Renew Deal]

74. Question to Trump: What are you going to do to make China pay?

[Lock him up.]

75. The orange dick gets twice the time Joe gets...

[Mossfern]

76. Trump interrupting again

bringing up emails again.

Joe interrupted Trump!
Yay

[elleng]

83. Always

[bdamomma]

172. trump

is living in 2016................but her e-mails.

he's dementing.

[Maru Kitteh]

77. Y'all see Biden's face when Trump admitted the secret China bank account and

reveal he has others all over the world?

[Renew Deal]

79. Biden just used "malarkey"

[Vivienne235729]

80. Omg!!! She needs to shut trump up!!! ARRRGH!!!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

81. No dumbshit the American consumer pays the tariffs not China

[Mossfern]

82. Joe bringing it back home to AMERICAN familiies!

on edit: a new species of flower...

[russiamommy]

84. Joe needs to drive home that this is all fake stuff

[BumRushDaShow]

85. Biden pulls out the "MALARKEY"

[yellowdogintexas]

87. Malarkey finally!!!

and yes we are hurting. Everyone who isn't rolling in it

[Renew Deal]

88. Question to Trump about NK, nuclear arsenal, and testing.

[Ilsa]

89. I wish Biden had not done this debate.

Trump gets to lie lie lie across national television. The undecideds might get won over.

[BumRushDaShow]

98. The "undecides" don't like bullshit artists

The only ones who are "won over" are his base.

[still_one]

102. There are no undecideds

[Jspur]

107. I felt the same way but now I realize Joe was damned if he did damned if he didn't

because if Biden decided not to do it then Trump would scream Biden is scared and not strong enough to take him on.

[Ilsa]

121. Yeah, there would have to be a good reason to not dot it. nt

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

90. He's still in love with Kim Jong Un.

[Renew Deal]

92. Trump claims he has a "very good relationship" with Lil' Kim.

[littlemissmartypants]

93. When does the microphone cut rule happen?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

105. Only in the 2 minute periods at the start of each section

[uponit7771]

94. Again, Trump isn't answering the question and talks about stupid shit.

[StevieM]

95. Is Trump really claiming that China paid us 28 billion dollars?

And that they had to devalue their currency to pay it?

I don't remember anything like that happening.

[Mossfern]

99. because it didn't

[Bernardo de La Paz]

110. He doesn't understand tarriffs

[yankeepants]

96. My dogs are upset because I'm yelling at the tv.

[elleng]

106. LOLOLOLOL!

[yankeepants]

125. They should be used to it by now. Poor babies.

[bdamomma]

182. That's why

I don't watch, tRump makes me and

[Renew Deal]

97. Question to Trump about 4 nuclear tests during Obama

[bullwinkle428]

100. "32 million people in Seoul!" LOL!!!! Repeating that fucked up fact that Jared gave him!

[MissB]

103. Very good relationship with n. Korea

No war.

Rambles on.

Now Biden answers about N Korea, saying that China had to be part of the solution.

Pointing out that Trump has legitimized N. Korea.

[BlueStater]

111. Why does he talk about these brutal dictators like he's dating them?

Can’t stand this insanity.

[Mossfern]

108. trump overtalking

again

[Renew Deal]

109. Biden said something about having a good relationship with Hitler before the war

[Mossfern]

112. Is there a mute button?

[fishwax]

113. we have a good relationship with north korea

sure, donnie.

[phylny]

114. CUT HIS MIC

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

116. North Korea is still a mess dotard

[russiamommy]

117. Good response from Joe on NK. Trump losing it

[uponit7771]

118. Just damn, this is horrible if you're not going to cut their mics

[Maru Kitteh]

119. MUTE! FUCKING MUTE ALREADY.

[Vivienne235729]

120. My BP is up but he's doing it again. He's slowly getting more combative w the moderator

What a mess.

[littlemissmartypants]

123. She's losing control. Not a good look for her.

Spanky doesn't play by the rules. She should have been prepared for that. Epic Fail!

[elleng]

133. Not possible to control him, as you say he doesn't play by the rules.

[littlemissmartypants]

143. She needs to do her job and control the discourse. He should be a victim of that assertiveness

on her part.

[elleng]

157. Yes, do need active use of MUTE,

but trying to 'discuss' anything with tramp impossible.

[tarheelsunc]

124. She LETS him have the last word on every damn topic. WTF????

[Renew Deal]

126. Question to Trump about Obamacare

[MissB]

127. Now on to health care

Individual mandate...

Obamacare is no good.

No matter how well you run it, it’s no good.

We need to terminate it.

We want to do much better health care. We want to come up with a beautiful health care.

Wtf. He’s stooopid

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

128. The individual mandate is what makes it economically viable

This idiot was an Economics major?

[malaise]

140. She finally said it you have two minutes uninterrupted

Geez - stop letting him take over everything

[Mossfern]

129. Health care

he's lying about what Biden would do. Are his two minutes up yet?

[Maru Kitteh]

130. I am SO enjoying Joe's facial expressions tonight!

He's genuinely enjoying watching Trump blow himself up!

[fishwax]

131. trump predicts republicans will take the house

[avebury]

147. That was pretty funny.

[bdamomma]

189. he's delusional

he said the same thing about 2018 and we took the House!

[yellowdogintexas]

132. jeeze Louize I do not believe how little he knows about health insurance nt

[MissB]

139. It's beautiful.

[Lars39]

134. They muted trump!

[tonekat]

136. Finally!

I was thinking the mute thing was a myth.

[Renew Deal]

135. Question to Biden: What would you do if Obamacare is terminated?

Obamacare with a Public Option

[MissB]

137. Biden laying out an actual plan. Doesn't say that it's Beautiful though.

Who to believe?

[MissB]

141. We will get the health plan when we get the infrastructure plan

[Renew Deal]

144. Question to Biden: Does his plan take the country one step forward to socialized medicine?

[Marthe48]

156. Socialism isn't a bad word

but of course, the moderator makes it one

[phylny]

145. Joe: Maybe we'll see the Trump insurance plan when we see the

infrastructure plan that we've been hearing about since '17, '18, '19

[Vivienne235729]

146. Biden just NAILED IT w preexisting conditions and covid!! KABOOOM!!!

[littlemissmartypants]

148. Time to start thread number three. ❤ nt

[Mossfern]

149. Trump going off on "Communist" Harris

starts talking about fraking

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

150. Dotard's unwinding now

[Renew Deal]

151. Biden just called his plan Bidencare

[FirstLight]

152. the difference is between someone who has a job they don't understand

and someone who was there and understands the fucking nuts and bolts of the whole Company!



seriously, if you cant see the difference, i weep for you



"socialized medicine" lol.... if people can choose that makes us socalist? get real
I love Jo's moments tonight where he's like "come on, man...?" really

[Mossfern]

153. Trump interrupting

again - use the mute button!

[EndlessWire]

154. What is wrong with him??

He stands there with this coy cock to his head like a little, pouting kid...

[IcyPeas]

155. he just complimented the moderator

he was told to do that.

[fishwax]

163. definitely

[russiamommy]

158. Go Joe!

[fishwax]

159. Joe: "He's a very confused guy"

So true, Joe. So true.

[Mossfern]

160. MUTE THE FUCKER!!!

[littlemissmartypants]

161. Time to start thread number three. ❤ nt

[Mr. Sparkle]

162. Boom! You go Joe..

[Mossfern]

164. NUTE HIM DAMMIT

[elleng]

167. Yes.

[Renew Deal]

165. Question to Trump about a relief bill

[sprinkleeninow]

166. Joe, you got approx. 1/2 more hour. Get angry!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

168. Not everyone has a 401k

[Jspur]

176. Joe should have mentioned the majority of millennials don't

have 401Ks.

[Johnny2X2X]

169. This is a disaster for Trump

He bombed even though he didn’t scream as much.

[BumRushDaShow]

170. He's like a kid in the principal's office

trying to blame someone else for throwing a rock at a school window.

[TexasBushwhacker]

171. FUCK THE STOCK MARKET!

90% of stocks and other securities are owned by the top 10% of Americans.

[Renew Deal]

173. Question to Biden about why he doesn't advocate to pass relief.

Biden: They already did. The "heroes" act

[fishwax]

178. Thought that was a great response from Joe

[Renew Deal]

174. Trump talking about blue state bailout.

[Renew Deal]

175. Biden talking to the camera about not seeing red states and blue states.

[littlemissmartypants]

177. Time to start thread number three. ❤ nt

[BlueIdaho]

183. Yes Please!

[Renew Deal]

179. Question to Biden about minimum wage

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

180. There were a lot of red states that received money under the recovery act in 2009

[Mossfern]

181. Joe gives a civics lesson

Trump shrugs and rolls his eyes.

[Renew Deal]

184. Biden won this section on the minimum wage. Much clearer.

[Renew Deal]

185. Debate thread #3

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214339636

[phylny]

186. New Debate Thread #3

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214340644

[Karma13612]

187. Joe:

I’m an American president. Not just for Blue States.
He is fired up right now.

Beautiful!

[littlemissmartypants]

188. Thread #3 here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214340644