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fishwax

(29,149 posts)
4. Biden was so much stronger on substance. This was a great performance for him. trump's performance
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:39 PM
Oct 2020

will go over well with his base, but that's a pretty low bar to meet.

C_U_L8R

(45,025 posts)
6. Trump was less manic but now you really heard how demented he is
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:40 PM
Oct 2020

He's out of his fucking mind.

And Joe will be a magnificent President who will make all Americans proud.

ancianita

(36,161 posts)
7. Trump tried to perform seriousness. Trump lost. Character beats performative talk forever.
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:41 PM
Oct 2020

All Joe had to do was show up and let Trump do his best.

Rest assured, Trump failed.

calguy

(5,338 posts)
9. Trump did better than last time
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:44 PM
Oct 2020

But he didn't change anyone's mind. Biden supporters will say Biden won. Trump supporters will say trump won.
Trump needed a knock out punch to change the dynamics of the race. He failed to do that.
The debates are now over, it's time to focus on the home stretch.
Trump lied an awful lot. Biden supporters know that. Trump supporters will continue to ignore it.

Hugin

(33,222 posts)
14. The debate is not quite over, yet, due to Trump's compulsive need to have the...
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:00 PM
Oct 2020

last word.

Look tonight or tomorrow for a series of Tweets that will turn the whole mess into a goat rodeo.

He'll have some grudge that dawns on him flying home in AF-1.

He always pulls the house of cards down on himself. He can not leave well enough alone.

Silent3

(15,379 posts)
10. Depends if you care about facts, and if you judge more on improvement...
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 10:44 PM
Oct 2020

...of performance than actual performance.

Trump was just as big of a lying shit as before, but he wasn't a barking rabid dog about it. I'm sure plenty of pundits will judge Trump on how successfully he pedaled his lies compared to last time, rather than on whether he was being truthful.

On that basis, Trump did a lot better than last time. It's a stupid standard to judge a debate by, but a common one.

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
15. Van Jones put it well:
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:02 PM
Oct 2020

"I think this was Donald Trump's best debate, but his best is not good enough."

It was just Fox News on downers. He didn't change any minds. Any "undecideds" who will vote for him because of this debate were going to vote for him anyway but won't admit it openly.

ancianita

(36,161 posts)
16. Even if it was a draw, or even if Trump won on seriousness, it's still A TWO OUT OF THREE BIDEN WIN!
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:31 PM
Oct 2020

Trump can't win any more on any sliver of truth that, taken with all his lies, could change any common sense voter. AT ALL.

Don't be scared. The momentum is with Biden. The Force is with him. The Biden abides.

Demonaut

(8,931 posts)
19. all you have to do is look at trumps past actions
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:39 PM
Oct 2020

and realize he's a great salesman with corrupt follow through, he's good on the "sizzle" but shit in reality

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