I shouted loud enough that Joe heard me!

[Staph]

During the discussion of the 1994 crime bill, Trump kept saying you had eight years in the White House. Why didn't you fix it?

I kept screaming "because he had a Republican Congress, stupid!" And finally, Joe heard me and repeated my line. Though he left off the "stupid". I would have kept it. That's why I'm not in politics.

[Laelth]

1. That's the point I tried to make in a thread that got locked.

Be very careful with this argument.

Come to think of it, I don’t think Joe spoke the words “Democrat” or “Democratic” during the entire debate. Oh, well. Small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.

-Laelth

[Staph]

2. Locked?!?

I guess the trolls are visiting tonight. I'm sorry for your troubles.

[Laelth]

3. No. This time I am the troll.

I accused Joe of not standing up for the Democratic Party. That didn’t go over well. It’s all good.



-Laelth

[Hekate]

18. You said he was "ashamed of being a Democrat." That was weird...& inaccurate.

But you just keep on being you. It’ll look better November 4, I’m sure.

[TwilightZone]

9. Nah, the trolls weren't the ones visiting.

The thread title was "Joe is still ASHAMED to be a Democrat."

It didn't get any better from there.

[Cha]

13. It was disingenuously bashing VP Biden

There weren't any "trolls visiting"

[Cha]

19. Yes, you were bashing VP Biden

No matter how much you deny it.

[Laelth]

20. I was inviting us all to be PROUD to be Democrats.

I was disappointed that the Vice President didn’t call out Republican obstruction as the reason Biden couldn’t accomplish all those things Trump said Biden SHOULD have accomplished in Biden’s 47 years in office.

I am done with this now. I admire Joe Biden. I am glad that he is our nominee for President. I am going to vote for Joe Biden (and all the other Democrats on my ballot), but I wish that Joe had uttered the word “Democrat” or the word “Democratic” JUST ONCE this evening.

He didn’t.

-Laelth

[Cha]

22. Yeah, you said that's all you were going to

say about it before.. and you're still denying you were Bashing Joe Biden.

[betsuni]

25. He said Republicans controlled Congress. Dead silence, very effective.

He's running to be the president of all Americans, as he kept emphasizing. Americans think politics is too partisan so this is the right message.

[TwistedTinkerbelle]

28. Huh?

Did you miss Joe saying he is a proud Democrat? Cause he did..emphatically.

[Princess Turandot]

30. "I'm running as a proud Democrat"...

Aaron Rupar (from Vox) @atrupar

Biden after Trump attacks blue states: "I'm running as a proud Democrat, but I'm going to be an American president. I don't see red states and blue states. What I see is America, the United States."

Link to tweet

[Cha]

32. Rt.. TY for that, Princess Turandot!!

Link to tweet

[TwilightZone]

35. Did you even watch the debate?

If you did, you should have paid closer attention.

The primaries are over. Come join the rest of us in the general election.

[TwilightZone]

7. Don't sell yourself short.

Your post was nothing but Biden bashing, masquerading as concern.

You're not fooling anyone.

[Laelth]

10. I sm sorry you feel that way.

You don’t know me very well, and that’s OK.

I didn’t bash Joe. I wanted him to defend the Democratic Party. He chose not to. That’s all.

-Laelth

[TwilightZone]

12. "Joe is still ASHAMED to be a Democrat"

...is all I need to know about you. Your motivations are perfectly clear.

You clearly don't understand the word "bash". Your post was a textbook example.

[Laelth]

15. He is, and I understand that. I lived through the Clinton years.

Joe’s going to win. That’s great, but there are a lot of down-ballot races to consider. We need him to be the leader of our PARTY. I don’t think that Joe uttered either the word “Democrat” or “Democratic” all night. It struck me as odd.

I am happy to engage you on this subject, but please, don’t presume to know my motives.

-Laelth

[Cha]

21. Joe Biden is Proud to BE a Democrat.. no

Matter how Many times you say he isn't.

You need to stop Presuming you know Joe Biden.

[murielm99]

27. What does that mean,

"lived through the Clinton years?"

[betsuni]

31. Evidently, one can live through "the Clinton years" without knowing Republicans controlled the

House for six of that administration's eight years and blame Democrats.

[murielm99]

34. Thank you.

Apparently you are the only one who is going to respond.

[Cha]

33. Well, you're WRONG.. Again...

Link to tweet

Perfect responses from Joe Biden.

[Cha]

14. Yes you did.

[Gothmog]

36. I am gld that I missed your OP

You are totally wrong in your claims. Joe is a proud member of the Democratic Party which is why he is the nominee of the party. I was pleased with Joe's performance last night and Joe defended the party very well. Any claim to the contrary is simply false

[Cha]

11. Exactly.

[onecaliberal]

29. What does that have to do with obstructionist republicans?

[Vadem]

4. So did I! He finally said it but said it too softly! I was hoping he

would say it every time Trump said you had 8 years, why didn't you do anything.

[Laelth]

5. Hear! Hear!

I wanted Joe to stand up strong for the party. Tonight, he didn’t.

-Laelth

[ecstatic]

6. I know, I was screaming too!

Lol! Also screamed at him to mention that tRump was the president of all the states and if any of them were failing in their covid response, it was tRump's fault. If schools cannot open, it's tRump's fault. Period! He is the (so called) president!!

[Silent3]

8. I was in the middle of starting to post a new thread on just that subject....

...when Biden finally mentioned Congress.

So I stopped making that post. But I came back to the topic again after the debate was over, with another thread, because Biden mentioned Congress just the one time: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214341883

[TomSlick]

16. You had help.

Herself was screaming "Republican Congress" so loudly it scared the dogs.

[Duppers]

23. Same here.

I had to comfort my biggest baby dog.

[Gothmog]

37. I was also screaming the same thing

[hamsterjill]

24. Me, too!!!

I screamed that Joe should mention the Central Park 5 and then he did!!!

It’s obviously because Democrats are smart!!!!

[roamer65]

26. I was hoping he would say it.

Joe is a mind reader.