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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Thu Oct 22, 2020, 11:57 PM Oct 2020

Vox: 4 winners and 5 losers from the last Biden-Trump debate

Winner: Joe Biden. Loser: Donald Trump

Did Trump really think that anyone would give a crap about Rudy's magic mystery meat hard drive?

https://www.vox.com/2020/10/22/21529649/debate-who-won-trump-biden-mute

Winner: Joe Biden
During the primary and general election, Biden hasn’t particularly shined on the debate stage. His answers meander and he mixes up words in ways that take the sting out from attack lines. But tonight, Biden was sharper and more on target — allowing his strong qualities, his command over policy and his ability to connect with ordinary Americans, to shine through.

During the first segment about the pandemic, for example, Trump said “we’re learning to live with it.” Biden responded with a possibly rehearsed, but nonetheless devastating response — “he says that we’re learning to live with it, people are learning to die with it.”

He continued needling Trump about his refusal to take responsibility for pandemic policy, provoking the president into the most embarrassing stumble from either candidate in the entire debate: “I take full responsibility. It’s not my fault that it came here. It’s China’s fault.” It’s a line that you can bet will be in anti-Trump attack ad in very short order.

Biden was like this for much of the debate, clever and empathetic and even a little feisty.
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Vox: 4 winners and 5 losers from the last Biden-Trump debate (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2020 OP
Biden was more comfortable and that helped BootinUp Oct 2020 #1
Biden and Welker won tonight Gothmog Oct 2020 #2
"mixes up words in ways that take the sting out from attack lines." bucolic_frolic Oct 2020 #3
I encourage my daughters in their efforts ArizonaLib Oct 2020 #4
Or . . . colorado_ufo Oct 2020 #5

BootinUp

(47,143 posts)
1. Biden was more comfortable and that helped
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 12:00 AM
Oct 2020

He did very well. I think Biden felt like the front runner and that relaxed him, and he knew what debating the orange dick was like already.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
3. "mixes up words in ways that take the sting out from attack lines."
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 08:27 AM
Oct 2020

So does the author of that article! You can take the 'sting from attack lines', or the 'sting out from under attack lines', but 'out from' requires a noun qualifier preceding the object. The English language is fractured daily online, even from graduates of good schools, and Tweeters are butchering spelling and punctuation.

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
4. I encourage my daughters in their efforts
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 09:18 AM
Oct 2020

when learning foreign languages that English is very difficult - if they already learned English, they are ahead in learning most other languages taught in schools. My youngest has a natural knack for purposely misusing common Americanized English to express herself. She is so much fun!

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
5. Or . . .
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 10:56 AM
Oct 2020

"ways that take the sting out the attack lines." Three prepositions, "out, from, under" is redundant, and "sting from attack lines" is ambiguous.

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