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Supposedly, the laptop is handed to FBI for investigation. Claustrum Oct 2020 #1
Only alleged, nothing verified. Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #2
My guess is that these were Hunter's files that were hacked from Burisma Beakybird Oct 2020 #3
Bingo. There was a laptop but it wasn't Hunter's. brush Oct 2020 #16
But I bet Hunter has had a laptop somewhere, sometime... ananda Oct 2020 #20
You and me both. I've had a laptop too. brush Oct 2020 #26
I have a laptop but my employer provided it for my use. yardwork Oct 2020 #31
Thank you. This makes sense question everything Oct 2020 #24
No soothsayer Oct 2020 #4
Supposedly it was delivered on April 2019 question everything Oct 2020 #29
Do we know if this is the real Hunter Biden? yardwork Oct 2020 #32
Exactly. Possibly a clone. soothsayer Oct 2020 #39
Maybe a lizard person. Wait. Is Mitch McConnell ever seen with Hunter Biden? yardwork Oct 2020 #43
It was James O'Keefe wearing a William Shatner Halloween mask. Midnight Writer Oct 2020 #41
And the legally blind Mac repairman - who accepted a Dell to repair - thought it was Cher. yardwork Oct 2020 #44
It wouldn't matter. They'd say he walked to DE to avoid a paper trail soothsayer Oct 2020 #38
Exactly. Why would anyone go cross Rice4VP Oct 2020 #33
There aren't that many legally blind Mac repairmen who accept Dells. yardwork Oct 2020 #45
It surprises me that nobody wants to address this ScratchCat Oct 2020 #5
Maybe he doesn't want to start down the rabbit hole. yellowcanine Oct 2020 #7
I kinda listened to a program - CBS morning show? - where several undecided women question everything Oct 2020 #27
I think you just don't give this type of nonsense oxygen soothsayer Oct 2020 #8
Yes even if you demonstrate that Rudy G etc. lied about one part of the story exboyfil Oct 2020 #13
I agree with a "not dignifying it with a response" response ScratchCat Oct 2020 #17
I think it's shut soothsayer Oct 2020 #25
I thought of that too moose65 Oct 2020 #10
Did he live in LA in April 2019 when it was delivered? I just don't know question everything Oct 2020 #30
I don't know moose65 Oct 2020 #35
If Rudy came back from Ukraine with the goods on hunter, we'd have seen it a long time ago. brewens Oct 2020 #14
No, they timed the release for maximum impact. PTWB Oct 2020 #15
Right. They thought this was the October surprise like Comey's letter was... brush Oct 2020 #22
I think the way to do this is to stay out of the details and hit the *zero credibility* meme unblock Oct 2020 #23
Because engaging makes it worse. Iggo Oct 2020 #40
trump is a racist pig . stonecutter357 Oct 2020 #6
You still on this shit? greenjar_01 Oct 2020 #9
Well he lived snowybirdie Oct 2020 #11
No. Marius25 Oct 2020 #12
Nope, there is nothing there... Spazito Oct 2020 #18
If there were, any laptop used in travel to Ukraine, Russia, China, etc. is completely untrustworthy Klaralven Oct 2020 #19
There was a laptop. maxsolomon Oct 2020 #21
If Trump had kept Comey on as FBI director then comradebillyboy Oct 2020 #28
What We Know and Don't About Hunter Biden and a Laptop - NYT question everything Oct 2020 #34
Sounds like complete bullshit to me. yardwork Oct 2020 #36
Laptops are a dime a dozen Buckeyeblue Oct 2020 #37
Especially if he made millions in Ukraine. yardwork Oct 2020 #46
I don't believe that Hunter Biden took his laptop to some guy in Delaware to fix. LisaL Oct 2020 #42
Or maybe the guy in Delaware is just saying what he's been paid to say. yardwork Oct 2020 #47

Claustrum

(5,058 posts)
1. Supposedly, the laptop is handed to FBI for investigation.
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:15 PM
Oct 2020

But the investigation that FBI said they are doing is to investigate if it's a Russian disinformation.

Beakybird

(3,397 posts)
3. My guess is that these were Hunter's files that were hacked from Burisma
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:18 PM
Oct 2020

and then the Russians or Trump people put these files on a laptop that they claimed was Hunter Biden's laptop. Then they added fake files and pictures.

ananda

(35,142 posts)
20. But I bet Hunter has had a laptop somewhere, sometime...
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:38 PM
Oct 2020

So do I.

Gosh, I feel so dirty and guilty.... should I
call the FBI and confess?

!@#$%

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
31. I have a laptop but my employer provided it for my use.
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 02:04 PM
Oct 2020

Does this mean my employer is being investigated by the FBI?

I also have emails. Lots of them. Is it safe to post that here?

question everything

(52,132 posts)
24. Thank you. This makes sense
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:41 PM
Oct 2020

If this was a TV mystery program, that repair shop would have a CCTV documenting who came there..

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
4. No
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:20 PM
Oct 2020

Hunter did not drive drunk from his home in CA to DE to drop off up to 3 water damaged laptops using a forged signature and no contact information, then fail to retrieve them from the legally blind drumpf-loving Mac repair guy.

Rudy, in a photo, displays an LG laptop — not even a Mac.

So no, no, a thousand times, no. No.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
44. And the legally blind Mac repairman - who accepted a Dell to repair - thought it was Cher.
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 06:17 PM
Oct 2020

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
38. It wouldn't matter. They'd say he walked to DE to avoid a paper trail
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 02:39 PM
Oct 2020

They’d say a robot Hunter was in CA and the real one was in DE.

You can’t argue with lunatics.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
45. There aren't that many legally blind Mac repairmen who accept Dells.
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 06:18 PM
Oct 2020

I mean, be fair. Maybe this guy was the only one!

ScratchCat

(2,740 posts)
5. It surprises me that nobody wants to address this
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:21 PM
Oct 2020

Either he dropped off a laptop or he didn't. I don't think he did, because it make no sense. So why not say something to the effect that "this is completely laughable because I've never been to a computer repair store in Delaware" ? Its almost an admission that something about the story is correct.

FWIW, I think its pretty clear the emails are doctored emails they got from the Russian hack of Burisma and they probably made up the "laptop repair store" angle to cover for the crime that was committed to get the emails.

yellowcanine

(36,790 posts)
7. Maybe he doesn't want to start down the rabbit hole.
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:26 PM
Oct 2020

I don't blame him. Trying to prove a negative can be hard. Let the FBI figure it out. Oh and he well may have been at that computer store. May even have brought a laptop for repair. Still doesn't mean THIS laptop is his. See what I mean about the rabbit hole?

question everything

(52,132 posts)
27. I kinda listened to a program - CBS morning show? - where several undecided women
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:47 PM
Oct 2020

were asked and at least one mentioned Hunter, "just as Don Jr."

Not that one or two women should determine the course of the campaign, though

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
8. I think you just don't give this type of nonsense oxygen
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:26 PM
Oct 2020

Don’t breathe life into it. Let it die under the weight of its own stupidity.

exboyfil

(18,359 posts)
13. Yes even if you demonstrate that Rudy G etc. lied about one part of the story
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:32 PM
Oct 2020

You just open up another question. It never ends (see Clinton where where legitimate questions about the security of the Libyan ambassador morphed into a fishing exhibition). In her case she was obligated to answer questions because of her position as SoS. Hunter Biden has no such obligation.

ScratchCat

(2,740 posts)
17. I agree with a "not dignifying it with a response" response
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:36 PM
Oct 2020

But at the same time, standing in front of a camera and pointing out how incredibly stupid the story is(California vs Delaware, blind guy, BBF Sticker on it, he never came back for the lap top, etc...) would shut it down completely.

(again, I doubt many people who watch FNC even believe it because its so ridiculous, but still, shut it down)

moose65

(3,454 posts)
10. I thought of that too
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:28 PM
Oct 2020

The whole story is ridiculous. Maybe this is another case of Democrats not commenting because the story is obvious bullshit.

Here are things that could be said:

Hunter lives in Los Angeles. Why would he take a laptop all the way across the country to a repair shop owned by a man who is legally blind, who was going to charge him $85 to fix it, and then after he traveled cross-country and dropped it off, he never came back to get it? No one in their right mind would do such a silly thing.

Do they have his signature on something? Did he pay for the service? Is it standard procedure for a repair shop to make a copy of all the files on a hard drive?

Maybe it's just me, but if I had been involved in some shady business dealings with a foreign government, I wouldn't entrust my laptop to a total stranger 3,000 miles away who was charging me a ridiculously low rate to "fix" my machine.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
14. If Rudy came back from Ukraine with the goods on hunter, we'd have seen it a long time ago.
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:32 PM
Oct 2020

It took them awhile to gin this up. If someone got my laptop, it would be real easy to verify it was actually mine. There is no way they thought of everything to make it look legit. I'm no puter guru, but I even know there are all the time stamps and stuff on emails and files.

I hear the Mac repair guys video surveillance just happened to be on the fritz too. So no vid of a guy looking like Hunter at the shop.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
22. Right. They thought this was the October surprise like Comey's letter was...
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:40 PM
Oct 2020

about Weiner's laptop.

Hey, it worked last time. Only this time was too stupid to be believed. Rudy needs to cut down on the booze.

unblock

(56,198 posts)
23. I think the way to do this is to stay out of the details and hit the *zero credibility* meme
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:40 PM
Oct 2020

Just say it's a complete fabrication, just another made up republicans fantasy scandal based on nothing and amounting to nothing.

The only scandal here is that the media still gives these things serious attention, as if republicans had any credibility whatsoever when it came to scandals about democrats. They need democratic scandals to win, so they fabricate them because their policies are so unpopular, that's all they have.

snowybirdie

(6,686 posts)
11. Well he lived
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:28 PM
Oct 2020

in California and allegedly left the laptop in a shop in Delaware. Also he forgot to pick it up. We report, you decide.

Spazito

(55,494 posts)
18. Nope, there is nothing there...
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:37 PM
Oct 2020

everything tucker rudy and his buds have been saying is being proven to be nonsense.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
19. If there were, any laptop used in travel to Ukraine, Russia, China, etc. is completely untrustworthy
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:37 PM
Oct 2020

comradebillyboy

(10,955 posts)
28. If Trump had kept Comey on as FBI director then
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 01:50 PM
Oct 2020

Big Jim could have rewarded Trump with another October surprise re the phoney laptop story.

question everything

(52,132 posts)
34. What We Know and Don't About Hunter Biden and a Laptop - NYT
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 02:15 PM
Oct 2020

(snip)

How did the laptop surface?

A computer repair shop owner in Wilmington, Del., named John Paul Mac Isaac has said Hunter Biden left a damaged Apple computer at his shop in April 2019 and asked to recover any data. Mr. Isaac said in an interview with The New York Times last week outside the shop that he is legally blind and could not be sure whether the man was Hunter Biden but asked his name to fill out a work order, and the man identified himself as Hunter Biden. Mr. Isaac said the man came to his shop twice but never returned to retrieve the computer or an external hard drive on which its contents had been stored.

At some point, he decided to examine the material, calling it “alarming” and “embarrassing” but declining to discuss specifics. Mr. Isaac also said he made a copy of the computer’s contents.

How did the F.B.I. learn about the laptop?

Mr. Isaac said he told the bureau. He said he eventually decided to contact the F.B.I. after he began fearing for his safety because he knew what was on the laptop, which The New York Post said included a graphic video. “If I was somebody important, I would want to keep some of this stuff private,” he said. “Nobody wants their dirty laundry aired.”

Mr. Isaac said he met with F.B.I. agents in late 2019 and provided them with a timeline of events. The agents returned about two weeks later in mid-December with a grand jury subpoena allowing them to seize the laptop and the external hard drive. The subpoena was signed by a federal prosecutor in the U.S. attorney’s office in Wilmington who handles criminal investigations such as fraud, and Mr. Isaac acknowledged receiving it.

The agents also gave him a receipt for what they took, according to a photograph of it published by Fox News. The receipt included an F.B.I. code, 272D, the bureau’s internal classification for money laundering investigations, and “BA” for its Baltimore field office. Officials separately confirmed that the F.B.I. seized the laptop and an external hard drive as part of an investigation, though they did not detail the inquiry or whether it involved money laundering or Hunter Biden. They also confirmed that the agent who signed the receipt works in Wilmington and is overseen by the Baltimore office.

(snip)

What don’t we know?

A lot. Mr. Isaac, who said he voted for Mr. Trump in 2016, declined to answer many questions about the laptop and his contacts with the F.B.I. He also would not talk about his communications with the Trump loyalists who orchestrated the plan to make the computer’s contents public just before the election.

It is also not clear what the F.B.I. did with the laptop or what Justice Department officials knew about the sensitive F.B.I. investigation at the time. F.B.I. officials have declined to discuss the inquiry.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/22/us/politics/hunter-biden-laptop.html

LisaL

(47,423 posts)
42. I don't believe that Hunter Biden took his laptop to some guy in Delaware to fix.
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 03:01 PM
Oct 2020

My guess it that some of his information was hacked and planted on a laptop (together with false information) and then taken to that guy in Delaware.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
47. Or maybe the guy in Delaware is just saying what he's been paid to say.
Fri Oct 23, 2020, 06:27 PM
Oct 2020

His story is.... odd. He receives some water damaged laptops from a customer who doesn't sign any paperwork, just mumbles that his name is, probably, Hunter Biden. No contact info. The laptops are not Macs, but this Mac repairman accepts them and repairs them anyway.

The customer - who may or may not be Hunter Biden, since for some reason the repairman never collected any customer contact info - never returns.

Months later the repairman starts looking around in the files on the computer or computers (not clear to me how many computers feature in this story).

The repairman says he finds things that shock and upset him. So he sits on it for more months. Long about the time Joe Biden wraps up the nomination, the repairman gives the computers to the FBI. He says. We have no proof of this. And then nothing happens.

So the repairman then gives the computer files he's saved (he copied upsetting and shocking information from a customer's computer? Why? Isn't that against the law, on several levels?), anyway he gives the files to... Rudy Giuliani?! Why?! How does he know Rudy?

It's laughable.

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