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no_hypocrisy

(54,919 posts)
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:26 AM Oct 2020

My theory about what may happen in the vote-counting room in PA, WI, MI, etc.

You have one Democrat, one Republican. They examine each paper ballot. When it's a vote for Biden, the Republican has been ordered to find something to object to. Maybe the signature is just a little different. Maybe the signature has an abbreviation where the printed name doesn't. Just something to throw it out. And there's a pattern.

And you can't replace the Republican counter. Either nobody else is available or they've all been given their instructions to throw out Biden ballots.

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My theory about what may happen in the vote-counting room in PA, WI, MI, etc. (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Oct 2020 OP
Our people do the same? pwb Oct 2020 #1
doesn't work that way beachbumbob Oct 2020 #2
Agreed Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #3
What I know is NO SINGLE election official/judge looking at ballots/signature has the authority beachbumbob Oct 2020 #8
Agreed Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #9
These counters don't look at how the voter voted. Kaleva Oct 2020 #4
Ok. Keth Oct 2020 #7
Their have been so many cases of ballots.. Maxheader Oct 2020 #5
Yeah, no signature on the ballot itself. yellowcanine Oct 2020 #6
In my state, IIRC, the only time a person might see a marked ballot is when the scanner can't WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2020 #10
Honestly, you should delete this OP. It shows a deep ignorance for the process and makes baseless WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2020 #11
I am an election inspector in Michigan GreenEyedLefty Oct 2020 #12
Your theory is based on the process used in the 2000 FL recounts and doesn't apply here Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #13
That's not how it works in most states. Not at all. MineralMan Oct 2020 #14
Signature alone canNOT be a reason after yesterday's ruling Roland99 Oct 2020 #15
Their have been so many cases of ballots.. Maxheader Oct 2020 #16
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
8. What I know is NO SINGLE election official/judge looking at ballots/signature has the authority
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 08:28 AM
Oct 2020

to either count it or reject it. It takes 2 and if its 1-1, the ballot is set aside for further review. I wish people would actually understand how the system works before posting nonsense

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
9. Agreed
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 08:34 AM
Oct 2020

A report on the St.Louis County Election Board earlier this year mentioned that the only place where the two people (one from each party) was not required was the restroom.

These folks are dead serious about their jobs and the trust placed in them.

Kaleva

(40,365 posts)
4. These counters don't look at how the voter voted.
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 07:43 AM
Oct 2020

In Michigan, a voter signs on the envelope that contains the ballot. Not on the ballot itself.

Keth

(184 posts)
7. Ok.
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 08:24 AM
Oct 2020

That was my question. Do the folks reviewing know how the person voted. Makes sense that they wouldn't. Or shouldn't.

Maxheader

(4,420 posts)
5. Their have been so many cases of ballots..
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 07:50 AM
Oct 2020

And their validation problems. At least the officials should be aware

of this and act accordingly...Course they can be bought...

yellowcanine

(36,795 posts)
6. Yeah, no signature on the ballot itself.
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 08:21 AM
Oct 2020

And the ballots will be scanned electronically. No chance this happens.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,960 posts)
10. In my state, IIRC, the only time a person might see a marked ballot is when the scanner can't
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 08:50 AM
Oct 2020

tabulate it and kicks it out for review. It's then set aside and reviewed only if counting it and others like it might change the final outcome. This would happen only in a recount situation, and then gets into "voter intent" (half-filled bubbles, bubbles marked with an X instead of filled in, etc.) and so is highly regulated.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,960 posts)
11. Honestly, you should delete this OP. It shows a deep ignorance for the process and makes baseless
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 08:52 AM
Oct 2020

assumptions about how the process works, boosting distrust.

GreenEyedLefty

(2,116 posts)
12. I am an election inspector in Michigan
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 08:56 AM
Oct 2020

That will not happen, that is not how it works.

The signatures, which are on the outside envelope, are verified by municipal clerks, before the ballots are sent to individual precincts for counting.

Ballots will NOT be thrown out, they CAN NOT be thrown out. Every ballot MUST be accounted for. Only ballots that are beyond comprehension will be *invalidated* through a bipartisan, multi-step process, which is documented.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,258 posts)
13. Your theory is based on the process used in the 2000 FL recounts and doesn't apply here
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 09:21 AM
Oct 2020

This isn’t how the initial counts are tabulated; if it was, Trump would be correct in asserting it would take “years” to know the results.

MineralMan

(151,281 posts)
14. That's not how it works in most states. Not at all.
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 09:46 AM
Oct 2020

In Minnesota, for example, ballots are only examined if there is a recount - not on election night. We use optical scanners to tabulate votes, not hand tabulation. That is true in most states. Ballot reading is automated.

Maxheader

(4,420 posts)
16. Their have been so many cases of ballots..
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 07:36 AM
Oct 2020

And their validation problems. At least the officials should be aware

of this and act accordingly...Course they can be bought...

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