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Nevilledog

(55,092 posts)
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:12 PM Oct 2020

Voters In Alabama's Largest County Could Have Their Ballots Thrown Out...



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This is outrageous. Ballots should be counted where voters followed the rules in existence at the time they voted, even if a court subsequently makes it more difficult to vote in their state.

Voters In Alabama’s Largest County Could Have Their Ballots Thrown Out After A Court Ruled Instru...
Voting rights groups have asked officials in Jefferson County to give voters who received now-defunct information a way to make sure their ballots aren’t rejected.
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Voters In Alabama's Largest County Could Have Their Ballots Thrown Out... (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2020 OP
Ridiculous! SheltieLover Oct 2020 #1
AL is hardly in play, but if pulling malarkey there, prepare to expect it everywhere, just in case? Brainfodder Oct 2020 #2
The senate is in play in AL. nt Earthshine2 Oct 2020 #12
Down-ballot races are certainly in play in Alabama! Tanuki Oct 2020 #13
The only way to fix this is to have national standards for voting VMA131Marine Oct 2020 #3
I oppose Federalizing our elections. Laelth Oct 2020 #5
Bullshit! VMA131Marine Oct 2020 #7
Yep. Laelth Oct 2020 #9
It wouldn't imo require a constitional amendment. LiberalFighter Oct 2020 #11
Something similar in PA but it has been stopped - early enough FakeNoose Oct 2020 #4
Thank Goodness! PA supreme court is not full of GOP judges then. onetexan Oct 2020 #6
So sick of this shit. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2020 #8
JeffCo (home of B'ham) is AL's biggest, & overwhelmingly blue, district. They elected Obama & Jones. eppur_se_muova Oct 2020 #10

Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
2. AL is hardly in play, but if pulling malarkey there, prepare to expect it everywhere, just in case?
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:22 PM
Oct 2020

VMA131Marine

(5,291 posts)
3. The only way to fix this is to have national standards for voting
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:31 PM
Oct 2020

That will take a Constitutional Amendment, but we currently have a patchwork quilt of laws that ensures inequality in how people vote and how their votes are counted across the country.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
5. I oppose Federalizing our elections.
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:43 PM
Oct 2020

Yes, our current system is a mess with 50+ sets of different rules, but that also makes the nation resistant to tyranny. I certainly don’t want a future Trump in charge of national elections. I would rather leave it to the states.

-Laelth

VMA131Marine

(5,291 posts)
7. Bullshit!
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 07:03 PM
Oct 2020

The current system makes it possible for certain states to maintain a tyranny of the minority that deliberately disenfranchises certain segments of the population.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
9. Yep.
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 07:09 PM
Oct 2020

And that’s better than having a future Trump in charge of ALL our elections.

-Laelth

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
11. It wouldn't imo require a constitional amendment.
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 07:40 PM
Oct 2020

Congress could require that all states have the same election rules when it pertains to federal elections. It could cover voter registration requirements, prohibition of any poll tax including court fines especially they are probably state fines, the limits on distance prohibiting electioneering, hours, how many polling locations, and other. States can still decide how they conduct their own elections for state and local positions.

FakeNoose

(41,936 posts)
4. Something similar in PA but it has been stopped - early enough
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 06:41 PM
Oct 2020

In Pennsylvania, we have a lot of mailed ballots, more than ever before. People have been informed that they must sign the envelope and voters are doing that. But in 99% of the cases there's no "witness" to the signature, and why would there be? It's not required.

Here's the problem: the voter's signature is being "matched up" with the signature that's on file, and in many cases it's the Drivers' License signature. Who remembers 3 or 4 years ago when they got their last Drivers' License? Well the problem is that in PA we must (required by law) sign on the little computer screen at the Motor Vehicles office, and that digitized signature never (I mean NEVER!) looks like your real signature when you write it with pen on paper. The digital scribble on your Drivers' License most of the time doesn't look like anything normal or legible. There's no way you can ID somebody by that scribble. How is it possible to match a voter's real signature to the digital scribble on a Drivers License ID file? It's not.

And that's why our Supreme Court just passed a ruling in Pennsylvania that no ballot will be rejected on the basis of the signature not matching. This is something that was RIPE for abuse, and our SC stopped it in time.




eppur_se_muova

(42,111 posts)
10. JeffCo (home of B'ham) is AL's biggest, & overwhelmingly blue, district. They elected Obama & Jones.
Sat Oct 24, 2020, 07:26 PM
Oct 2020

If Uglicans want to sabotage Doug Jones' chances for re-election, sabotaging the JeffCo vote ***ALONE*** will do it. Nothing more is needed for them to succeed, and to kneecap Dem's chances of taking the Senate.

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