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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs Donnie continues suggesting no peaceful transition, know THIS
Just remember his term ends at noon on Jan 20, 2021. Donnie will NO LONGER BE PRESIDENT. He has literally built up a barrier around the WH, and he would be cornering himself. He can sit there, arms folded, mad-faced in the Oval Office. However, Biden/Harris would still be sworn in, whether trump is there for the ceremony or not. Then he could either vacate, or services/utilities may actually be shut off, depending on how far he wants to take his tantrum. For certain, all intel and security briefings would end for him. The Nuclear Football would be transferred. Any housekeeping/wait staff would leave the WH. His "administration" would cease to be paid or hold their positions. All trump would do by staying is prolong the embarassment and sad legacy of his time in office. The Secret Service is not going to follow any unlawful orders from him. If they or any other agents or military members do, they violate their oath. As government employees, loyalty is sworn to the Constitution. Anyone thinking otherwise had better wake their ass up.
Biden/Harris would simply begin to run the country from off-site until trump leaves the White House & pence is out of Observatory Circle.
You get the idea.
COUNTRY OVER PARTY.
dware
(12,462 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)It is the time between November 3 and January 20th that is of great concern to me.
That's when the Mango Menace is going to be most dangerous, he's determined to bring down the country, and the world, with him.
spooky3
(34,517 posts)exboyfil
(17,865 posts)when the electoral votes are counted.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)exboyfil
(17,865 posts)PARDON TIME. Come and get your pardon. He will use the Courts up to the vote counting date.
I still think he has a coin flip probability of fixing this thing. What happens after is anybody's guess. The best solution is to run the score up now, and hopefully fix the system after he is gone (if it is possible).
I don't think he will fight leaving, but he might burn the sucker down.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)it is "burning the sucker down." It is his style.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)That sums it up all rather succinctly.
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)Claustrum
(4,846 posts)Whether he likes it or not, the newly elected president will take his place. The voter spoke and there is nothing he can do to not comply.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)I think that if he loses, he'll just just say "screw it, I'm outta here" and just pack up and leave.
We'll have to see what happens. But I'm not worried about him refusing to leave.
I think if he loses he will seek a pardon and leave, or put pence in charge and go golfing for the duration of term.
I have a feeling that he intends to demolish whatever else he can on the way out the door, unfortunately. Thankfully, there are plenty of career employees who have been paying attention to his activities, and will know exactly what needs to but repaired. You can also count on them placing any unlawful or questionable orders at the bottom of their 'IN' baskets. Golly, sometimes it takes a long time to get to certain tasks, ya'know?
Nov. 4th to Jan 20th will be the worst time.
Ohiogal
(32,144 posts)I would love to see him escorted out of the WH by a pair of female Federal Marshals. Broadcast live, interrupt all other programming and show the world what a psychopath and fool he is.
SaveOurDemocracy
(4,400 posts)Ohiogal
(32,144 posts)And watch it over and over again!
Sierra89
(127 posts)My mother keeps saying she hopes to see him dragged out like Julian Assange, kicking and shrieking.
IT WOULD BE GLORIOUS.
Ohiogal
(32,144 posts)SaveOurDemocracy
(4,400 posts)dware
(12,462 posts)the Secret Service and the US Marshal's Service aren't exactly known for their sense of humor.
Thekaspervote
(32,819 posts)SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)I also think it is prudent to think about what happens if he doesnt. What will that look like? What will transpire? What will he ask the donnie dipshit followers to do?
no_hypocrisy
(46,270 posts)My friend's brother was living with a barfly girlfriend. His sister was paying his rent. He died. Girlfriend didn't want to move as she was living for free. It takes forever for a landlord to evict. Sister came to me for help.
I told her since all possessions in the apartment belonged to her brother and he was dead, they were now hers. The TV, kitchenware, the bed, chest of drawers, furniture. I told her to call the Salvation Army for a big donation. Then call the utilities to end the contract. All that would be left for Girlfriend was carpet.
She got the hint and moved out quickly.
malaise
(269,254 posts)Take that to the bank
mucifer
(23,598 posts)They aren't too crazy about him.
He doesn't have a choice about eviction. He will still have some SS protection, but they're going to follow orders.
Like others, I'm more concerned about his dastardly deeds between Nov. and Jan.
Phoenix61
(17,023 posts)He always walks away from failure. He wont have any support. The Repubs have got their hard-right SCOTUS they wont fight to keep him in. The covid death toll is rising with no discernible end in sight. Hell bail.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)coerces Pence into a last minute pardon after using every Presidential lever to feather his nest and protest those around him he considers loyal (pardons of course and who knows what else). Remember he has full authority to declassify everything. Depending on how soundly he is rejected, he might just scorch Earth everything to put cash in his pocket.
He cares nothing for his legacy. He barely cares for his family. He sure doesn't care about the "people" or the institutions of government.
He might consider living out his life like Idi Amin as his best option.
katmondoo
(6,457 posts)He does not have the military support therefore no coup and no government takeover if he loses.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)I think it is a coin flip right now. We sit on a knife edge. The polls don't matter.
spanone
(135,919 posts)Boogiemack
(1,406 posts)He in no way wants to greet the Bidens to the WH. His admin may do damage to the WH offices before leaving but other than that, he will be long gone, probably to Russia or SA to be greeted with adoring crowds.
Sierra89
(127 posts)much of the historical art and other items were cycled out with less significant ones by the White House Historical Association and placed in storage.
That makes me smile.
Duppers
(28,130 posts)TRump is a thief.
Bayard
(22,204 posts)Sierra89
(127 posts)all over it. In Sharpie. Then he will remove his diaper and sling poo all over the Oval Office walls.
panader0
(25,816 posts)I want him in a US jail, no hairdresser, no golden toilet, no Big Macs.
I want him to suffer for his crimes and not escape to some country with no extradition laws.