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SpankMe

(3,733 posts)
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 11:47 PM Oct 2020

Must read: St. Peters woman changes deeply held views on abortion after giving birth as a teen

https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/parenting/aisha-sultan/sultan-st-peters-woman-changes-deeply-held-views-on-abortion-after-giving-birth-as-a/article_ef317242-307b-5ffc-82d0-c0d605699041.html

Year 2003, before ACA. Conservative Catholic woman gets pregnant as a teen. Abortion provider urges her to discuss it with her mother before getting the abortion. Mothers forbids daughter from getting abortion and forces teen to have the baby.

Girl has no insurance. Looks everywhere for support and pre-natal care and finds none - even from Catholic charities. Can't qualify for any state assistance for a variety of reasons.

Has to go it alone with vaginal delivery with no anesthesia. (Compassionate nurse secretly provides epidural, but that's the only break the girl gets in this story.)

Has painful, long labor with injuries down below during childbirth. All medical care is rationed and cash only and nearly bankrupts family. Has to pull out her own stiches from the injuries because of no insurance.

Bottom line - goes from Republican, anti-abortion girl to Democratic pro-choice woman. Sings praises of ACA.

Bonus: Ends up keeping her baby - a girl for whom she provided education and birth control when she became a teen - a benefit she didn't get from her parents.
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Must read: St. Peters woman changes deeply held views on abortion after giving birth as a teen (Original Post) SpankMe Oct 2020 OP
This is the kind of story that needs to be front and center. Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #1
This story isn't credible. Mariana Oct 2020 #5
Yeah, I had an epidural-- dawg day Oct 2020 #8
It's not just an injection. Mariana Oct 2020 #10
Most anti abortion people are not really anti abortion. The ones who actually are anti abortion JI7 Oct 2020 #2
✔️ blm Oct 2020 #6
This doesn't pass the smell test. FeelingBlue Oct 2020 #3
It would never happen. Mariana Oct 2020 #4
I've had an epidural. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2020 #7
It doesn't say the nurse gave an epidural, only that she gave the consent forms marylandblue Oct 2020 #9
let me guess yuiyoshida Oct 2020 #11
i had a neighbor mopinko Oct 2020 #12
ACA Affordable Care Act was enacted 2010 Sanity Claws Oct 2020 #13
I agree. nt Duppers Oct 2020 #14

Thekaspervote

(35,820 posts)
1. This is the kind of story that needs to be front and center.
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 11:52 PM
Oct 2020

No abortions, but be damned if anyone will help her. Where’s the compassion in that?

Mariana

(15,629 posts)
5. This story isn't credible.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 12:15 AM
Oct 2020

Go read how epidurals are done. No nurse would ever give a woman an epidural - and even if she did, it would be just about impossible to hide it.

The last thing we need to do is promote stories that contain exaggerations and lies.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
8. Yeah, I had an epidural--
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 01:01 AM
Oct 2020

MD anesthesiologist.

It's an injection into the spine, isn't it?
A nurse anesthestist might do it, but just a nurse?

This isn't like a shot in the arm.

Mariana

(15,629 posts)
10. It's not just an injection.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 01:11 AM
Oct 2020

I think only a doctor would administer it. According to the American Society of Anesthesiologists:

If you choose to have an epidural, a physician anesthesiologist will insert a needle and a tiny tube, called a catheter, in the lower part of your back. The needle is removed and the catheter left in place for delivery of the medication through the tube as needed.

https://www.asahq.org/whensecondscount/pain-management/techniques/epidural/

This story is bullshit.

JI7

(93,765 posts)
2. Most anti abortion people are not really anti abortion. The ones who actually are anti abortion
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 11:56 PM
Oct 2020

are a few very very religious types . But they are also against death penalty and just people who spend all of their time on religion .

But the Republican Party mostly uses it to try to make themselves appear moral because of all of their positions which immoral.

FeelingBlue

(802 posts)
3. This doesn't pass the smell test.
Sun Oct 25, 2020, 11:58 PM
Oct 2020

I cannot imagine any nurse giving a laboring woman- or any woman, for that matter- an epidural. No way. And secretly- such that the physician would not notice?! I don’t think so.

Glad things worked out for her after all the suffering.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
7. I've had an epidural.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 12:29 AM
Oct 2020

It's not something that can be done secretly or without everyone else around being aware of it.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
9. It doesn't say the nurse gave an epidural, only that she gave the consent forms
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 01:06 AM
Oct 2020

So it reads to me like the only secret was the consent while the mother was out, then the doctor showed up before the mother came back or something like that.

yuiyoshida

(45,535 posts)
11. let me guess
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 02:29 AM
Oct 2020

No husband to help out.. who ever did her, should be found and plastered all over the city... his photograph, saying...This man got me pregnant and fled. Now I am a single parent..how is this ever fair??

mopinko

(73,801 posts)
12. i had a neighbor
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 08:20 AM
Oct 2020

a devout catholic. she was an lpn. she got a job at an abortion clinic.
she had 3 kids when she started. she had 1 more.
now, she didnt make much money, and neither did her hubs.
they lived in a 2 br apt.

she got pregnant again.
yeah, she got an abortion.

Sanity Claws

(22,419 posts)
13. ACA Affordable Care Act was enacted 2010
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 03:32 PM
Oct 2020

Not 2003 as article claims.
2003 was Bush administration and they did nada regarding health insurance.

Whole article does not sound right.

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