If we have Biden and a Democratic senate we have a very fast test to see if

[dsc]

we can or can't get something done without getting rid of the filibuster. Try to pass a bill reestablishing the mandate under the normal order of business (ie not via reconciliation). If the GOP doesn't filibuster that then there might be some hope, if not, then we go nuclear. That is a must pass bill for us, if there is no serious offer of negotiation on that, then the filibuster has to go then and there. On edit, I would prefer to just not have the filibuster at all but fear that we won't have the votes for that, but it should be made crystal clear that we won't permit the ACA to be taken from us by minority rule.

[beachbumbob]

1. The filibuster will go in first 60 days or less as McConnel will filibuster ALL democratic bills

no way they will not

[unblock]

5. still hoping myturtle isn't coming back.

not that any republican minority leader would be any different....

[beachbumbob]

6. this will happen no matter who the GOP senate leader is

its all about obstruction

[Volaris]

13. I thought Senate rules could only be changed within the first 30 days of a new session?

[Wounded Bear]

2. Every term starts with a vote on rules. Kill the fillibuster then...

don't wait. Repubs wouldn't.

[Binkie The Clown]

3. I read this morning that under Obama the Republicans held more filibusters than

in the entire previous 200+ year history of the country.

[unblock]

4. rules are approved as one of the very first orders of business of a new congress.

we should just kill the filibuster on january 4. just get rid of it up front and don't give them the chance to slow things or create any drama later.

the nuclear option is only needed once the rules are set for that congress.

[pecosbob]

8. I agree...they know full well the obstruction they will face

Before it was the Tea-Baggers...now its Q-Anoners.

[world wide wally]

7. As long as it just takes one Senator to filibuster, there WILL be obstruction.

Just ask Rand Paul

[Sugarcoated]

9. I wish they'd vote in someone else

for majority leader. Corey Booker would be so kick ass...

[dsc]

10. It isn't the leader

or at least isn't all the leader. We will have at the very most 54 senators, more likely will have 52 or so. That means we are in a position of needing the votes of all but 2 senators. That gives the trio of Manchin, Feinstein, and any one other veto over this.

[Sugarcoated]

11. I know

It was just an aside

[obamanut2012]

12. Cory