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Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 10:52 AM Oct 2020

How did you interpret Mark Meadows statement that the US is "not going to control" the pandemic?

It could mean, "Hey, we tried, but failed. We are unable to control the pandemic." Or it could mean, "We don't think it's our responsibility to control the pandemic. We're going to discontinue our efforts."

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How did you interpret Mark Meadows statement that the US is "not going to control" the pandemic? (Original Post) Poiuyt Oct 2020 OP
it means trump NEVER had the intention of safeguarding people, only profits beachbumbob Oct 2020 #1
As I recall, Drumpf's very first response, at the first task force briefing soothsayer Oct 2020 #3
I think it's the same line of thinking as Trump. Claustrum Oct 2020 #2
Trump might say it's going away but I really doubt he believes it. LisaL Oct 2020 #8
I don't think he believes it either. But that's the PR lines he and his people have to follow Claustrum Oct 2020 #10
I took it as... dv421 Oct 2020 #4
A dirt nap! Poiuyt Oct 2020 #9
We can't figure out how to steal or make a buck off of...... Hotler Oct 2020 #5
Attempts to control means lockdowns, quarantines, and so on. LisaL Oct 2020 #6
A statement of fact Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #7
They've failed to manage it so horrifically that it has become unmanageable. PTWB Oct 2020 #11
Honestly, think he meant that there is no way to completely control the spread of CV19. Hoyt Oct 2020 #12
I beg to differ. LisaL Oct 2020 #14
The only thing they can do at this point is require masks and shutdown all unnecessary gatherings. Hoyt Oct 2020 #15
The only thing they can do at this point is require masks and shutdown all unnecessary gatherings. Poiuyt Oct 2020 #20
So you can't fail at something you're not doing? chriscan64 Oct 2020 #13
A Confession Of Impotence, Sir, At Best The Magistrate Oct 2020 #16
This is pretty much SOP with the elite... Hugin Oct 2020 #17
Herd Immunity. This administration if given a chance will kill over 2 million Americans. sarcasmo Oct 2020 #18
Let it rip. My Pet Orangutan Oct 2020 #19
"Our leader is incapable of making a plan, ooky Oct 2020 #21
all people in the US are expendable. Thomas Hurt Oct 2020 #22
I view it as a statement of intent. They don't plan to control it. tinrobot Oct 2020 #23
My interpretation: "This administration will take no active measures whatsoever Mike 03 Oct 2020 #24
We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas! Initech Oct 2020 #25
They totally bdamomma Oct 2020 #26
It means that meadows at least, knows full well that their party are all dipshit, illiterate, Volaris Oct 2020 #27
He didn't want to control the pandemic because he was going to USE it to delay the election. not_the_one Oct 2020 #28
We don't care how many Americans we kill with stupid herd immunity...the Street will be fine. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #29
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. it means trump NEVER had the intention of safeguarding people, only profits
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 10:54 AM
Oct 2020

and why all the comments from the start was to ignore the Covid

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
3. As I recall, Drumpf's very first response, at the first task force briefing
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 10:58 AM
Oct 2020

...in addition to closing the barn door after the horse had left (China travel restrictions), was to pump money into the stock market.

So, yeah.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
2. I think it's the same line of thinking as Trump.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 10:54 AM
Oct 2020

It is going away so why would we have to "control" it.

COVID is the last thing they want to talk about. So Trump only mock the word COVID but never talk about any details about it.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
10. I don't think he believes it either. But that's the PR lines he and his people have to follow
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:05 AM
Oct 2020

especially in public or facing the press.

dv421

(170 posts)
4. I took it as...
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:01 AM
Oct 2020

Grandma has to take a dirt nap so my billionaire buddies can get richer. Like all republican plans.

Hotler

(11,415 posts)
5. We can't figure out how to steal or make a buck off of......
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:02 AM
Oct 2020

protecting the American people so, we decided to move on.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
6. Attempts to control means lockdowns, quarantines, and so on.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:03 AM
Oct 2020

He is saying they won't do anything of the sort.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
7. A statement of fact
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:03 AM
Oct 2020

That they are failures and never had any intention of doing the hard work necessary to protect the nation.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
11. They've failed to manage it so horrifically that it has become unmanageable.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:06 AM
Oct 2020

Unfortunately I agree. They’ve politicized the measures needed to control the spread.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. Honestly, think he meant that there is no way to completely control the spread of CV19.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:07 AM
Oct 2020

That is true. BUT, there were -- and still are -- ways to minimize it's impact while we wait for effective treatments and a vaccine. trump's acting as if it would self-correct, masks weren't necessary, etc., killed a lot of people.

I don't really think he was saying they are purposely taking steps not to control it. However, if it blows back on trump's failed efforts and GOPers on election day, I don't care. They deserve it.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
14. I beg to differ.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:15 AM
Oct 2020

I don't think they want to do anything to control it at this point. They want to go for herd immunity. If everyone were to get sick, whoever survives will emerge immune (of course we don't even know how long one is immune after being infected with covid).

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
15. The only thing they can do at this point is require masks and shutdown all unnecessary gatherings.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:22 AM
Oct 2020

They don't have the guts to do that because their base are ignorant white wingers.

Meadows is right, as long as they don't want to force their ignorant base to isolate, there is not much than can be done to control CV19. Even if we get super tough, the virus is going to spread, just not as fast.

In any event, trump's Admin totally mismanaged the virus, expectations, and what is necessary to minimize the impact.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
20. The only thing they can do at this point is require masks and shutdown all unnecessary gatherings.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:25 AM
Oct 2020

That would go a long way to control the pandemic!

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
13. So you can't fail at something you're not doing?
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:12 AM
Oct 2020

There were things in their control that they could have to done to control it like make mask wearing okay for trump supporters who would have gone whichever way he did. They could have made sure the Cares Act included more funds for small businesses to maintain their payrolls to lessen the blow of a longer shutdown that reduced the spread and less funds for rich grifters. Anything that is the opposite of what they did would have worked.

The numbers are going to continue upward as we approach the election. I see the Meadows statement as "vote for us anyway."

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
16. A Confession Of Impotence, Sir, At Best
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:22 AM
Oct 2020

When the present regime decided early to campaign against standard public health measures, largely on the ground that it was at the time mostly city folks and minorities affected, they sealed the fate of millions. Their campaign was successful enough with the red-hat maggots who slurp up their garbage that now any reversal, to instituting sound and sane and non-political policies, would turn their Gadarene swine against them as well.

Hugin

(33,120 posts)
17. This is pretty much SOP with the elite...
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:23 AM
Oct 2020

They've been doing it since at least The Bhopal disaster

Deepwater Horizon, the Exxon Valdez oil spill, Chernobyl, the nuke plant in Japan, and on and on and on.

They blow through the inadequate fail safes and scramble around looking extremely busy reacting to the crisis (mainly for the media and the PR they've hired). Ultimately, failing and messing up huge swaths of the fricking Commons. Then, they shrug and say we tried and we couldn't overcome an act of God. Fiddle around awhile more until the next shiny thing diverts public attention and then go right back to doing the raping and pillaging exactly the way they were before. It's become Standard Operating Procedure. Very predictable. Rise. Repeat. Until all of the money is theirs and we're all dead.

Also, very Trumpian.

I think they do it deliberately now to foul something up so bad that any additional foulage goes unnoticed. Diametrically the opposite of 'conservation'. I suppose that's why outside of the US this group is called the Neo-Liberals.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
21. "Our leader is incapable of making a plan,
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:26 AM
Oct 2020

so we have no plan, except to let the Covid keep running wild killing Americans until a cure or vaccine is provided to us by the scientific/medical community (for which our leader will then take credit)."

tinrobot

(10,894 posts)
23. I view it as a statement of intent. They don't plan to control it.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:31 AM
Oct 2020

He said the quiet part out loud.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
24. My interpretation: "This administration will take no active measures whatsoever
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:31 AM
Oct 2020

to tamp down on the spread of COVID-19. We will let nature takes its course."

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
27. It means that meadows at least, knows full well that their party are all dipshit, illiterate,
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:37 AM
Oct 2020

Fuckhead selfish assholes that have no intention of doing a damn thing to help the rest of us, and never did. Trump included.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
28. He didn't want to control the pandemic because he was going to USE it to delay the election.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:41 AM
Oct 2020

He thought he would be able to declare martial law BECAUSE of the pandemic, take over as our authoritarian leader, like his idols around the world, and become our very own fuhrer. He would be given time to arrange to make HUGE money off of the vaccine, then ride in and save the day.

To delay doing anything, back in January, he said that it would be gone in a few weeks, down to zero cases. And promptly did NOTHING.

The turd, one who, once he takes a serious stand, NEVER goes back on his word, or admit any kind of defeat, doubled down on doing nothing.

It turns out his gambit didn't play out like he thought it would.

And here we are.

The possible silver lining? The end (possibly) of him, the republicans, the white supremacists, the fundigelicals. The only villains left to deal with would be the corporate vulture capitalists.

The spectre of racism will take a few more generations to eliminate. But forcing those already mentioned back under their rocks, will be a good start on the racism.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
29. We don't care how many Americans we kill with stupid herd immunity...the Street will be fine.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:41 AM
Oct 2020

They never tried to control it anyway.

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