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edhopper

(37,369 posts)
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:45 PM Oct 2020

The Supreme Court just showed us

That they will stop the vote count in States where Trump is ahead.
And with Barret, they will okay throwing out Biden ballots.
The polls only tell the story if the votes are actually counted.
I have doubts that will be allowed.
It will be Florida 2000 on steroids..
This is a genuine threat to our Democracy.

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The Supreme Court just showed us (Original Post) edhopper Oct 2020 OP
If they want secession and civil war vercetti2021 Oct 2020 #1
Province of New England and Province of New York for starters. roamer65 Oct 2020 #7
What about us in the Mid-Atlantic? Marius25 Oct 2020 #27
What would you call yourselves? roamer65 Oct 2020 #29
I'll call myself anything. I just want to be part of the Marius25 Oct 2020 #30
Cant say I blame them. roamer65 Oct 2020 #31
Atlanteans lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #34
Yup, we won't take it quietly. LiberalLoner Oct 2020 #15
It won't save them Jason1961 Oct 2020 #2
Well said. OnDoutside Oct 2020 #17
Vote early StarfishSaver Oct 2020 #3
Too late to vote early! VOTE NOW! lagomorph777 Oct 2020 #35
Vote early as in vote before November 3 StarfishSaver Oct 2020 #36
If he gets a second term via coup, then it's literally war. Crunchy Frog Oct 2020 #4
If you are referring to the ruling today, I don't think it's a real issue. Hoyt Oct 2020 #5
How many? Elections are won on the margins. Statistical Oct 2020 #9
I'm sorry, I think Democrats are smarter than that. We are a week out. Anyone Hoyt Oct 2020 #11
There are far fewer Republican mail in ballots by a factor of more than 2:1. Statistical Oct 2020 #14
At this point, a week until Nov 3, I don't think anyone knows whether it's more Dem or GOPer Hoyt Oct 2020 #19
I don't think WI is lost. However it is naive to think Republicans challenged this because net-net Statistical Oct 2020 #20
I don't think that many Democrats are stupid enough to mail in ballots that late. Hoyt Oct 2020 #21
As of Monday night there are 21.5 million Democratic and Independent mail ballots Awsi Dooger Oct 2020 #10
How many GOPer ballots haven't been returned? Do you think Hoyt Oct 2020 #12
Clinton lost WI edhopper Oct 2020 #16
No, because first it affects GOPers as well. Most importantly, do you think Democrats are stupid Hoyt Oct 2020 #18
That is a ridiculous argument on so many levels edhopper Oct 2020 #23
It is insulting for people to act like Democrats haven't got sense enough to get ballots in on time. Hoyt Oct 2020 #25
We need independents to win edhopper Oct 2020 #28
A coup is a coup regardless. They got away with one when it was very close. bullimiami Oct 2020 #6
No telling how many votes they just suppressed in Wisconsin SomedayKindaLove Oct 2020 #8
they said 200,000 plus in just WI (on multiple MSNBC shows) Celerity Oct 2020 #13
Recent Covid activity - new cases - is very high in WI FakeNoose Oct 2020 #22
One would hope edhopper Oct 2020 #24
The Trump Court will do everything it can to destroy democracy dalton99a Oct 2020 #26
Let me guess. Your nickname is not "Sunshine". 11 Bravo Oct 2020 #32
I am sure you were just as confident edhopper Oct 2020 #33

roamer65

(37,953 posts)
7. Province of New England and Province of New York for starters.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:55 PM
Oct 2020

Canada would be receptive because it would dilute the power of Quebec and would create a land bridge from Ontario to the Maritime provinces in the event of Quebec separation.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
30. I'll call myself anything. I just want to be part of the
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 10:28 AM
Oct 2020

group that joins Canada

My family is thinking of retiring to Massachusetts if Biden wins. They're looking into Europe if Biden loses.

roamer65

(37,953 posts)
31. Cant say I blame them.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 10:30 AM
Oct 2020

This is the most important election since November 1860.

Let’s see how it goes....

Jason1961

(461 posts)
2. It won't save them
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:51 PM
Oct 2020

They're running out of tricks to pull

The math doesn't lie, they're the party of 'No' however slowly but surely we're winning and they know it

The Court will be balanced (as it should be) once we retake the Senate

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
35. Too late to vote early! VOTE NOW!
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 11:29 AM
Oct 2020

Also, it's too late to use USPS. Use any other method that you legally can.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
36. Vote early as in vote before November 3
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 12:41 PM
Oct 2020

And yes, don't mail in votes now. Either vote in person or take ballots to the boards of elections.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. If you are referring to the ruling today, I don't think it's a real issue.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:53 PM
Oct 2020

How many Democrats do you think will wait until last minute to mail in their ballot if they are not voting in-person?

I think we are smarter than that and will use drop boxes or vote in-person. It won’t be an issue.

Also, don’t think it will be an issue on Nov 3.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
9. How many? Elections are won on the margins.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 12:10 AM
Oct 2020

Would 30% of Democrats & Independents do that? Of course not but would 4% especially when they have been told for weeks and weeks and weeks now they just need it postmarked by election day?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. I'm sorry, I think Democrats are smarter than that. We are a week out. Anyone
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 12:27 AM
Oct 2020

who has already mailed a ballot will likely have it there by November 3.

Anyone that hasn’t, has enough sense to take it to the many drop boxes or vote in person. Besides, GOPers will be under same restrictions. Do you think they are smarter than us?

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
14. There are far fewer Republican mail in ballots by a factor of more than 2:1.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 01:00 AM
Oct 2020

I mean why do you think the Republicans challenged this extension. They challenged it because it would hurt them more and they wanted to up the difficulty?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. At this point, a week until Nov 3, I don't think anyone knows whether it's more Dem or GOPer
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 08:41 AM
Oct 2020

ballots that will be mailed and might be late. Your 2:1 ratio might have been true early on, but at this point I think Democrats have gotten their ballot in. Second, I think Democrats have been using drop boxes and will do so increasingly as it gets closer to election. Finally, I hope that local Democratic organizations are doing their best to get procrastinators to vote in-person or using drop boxes.

For years, November X has always been the deadline. It's not like the SC ruled that if your ballot wasn't in by October 15th it doesn't count and you have no recourse.

But if you want to fret that WI is lost, you have that right.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
20. I don't think WI is lost. However it is naive to think Republicans challenged this because net-net
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:01 AM
Oct 2020

it hurts Republicans. It hurts Democrats that is why they did it.

I think this might cost Joe 2% of the vote. The good news is Joe is polling up six so he can afford that.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
10. As of Monday night there are 21.5 million Democratic and Independent mail ballots
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 12:16 AM
Oct 2020

That have not been returned

Granted, some of them have not been received or processed yet, even though they have been mailed. But probably at least 17-18 million not mailed

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. How many GOPer ballots haven't been returned? Do you think
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 12:35 AM
Oct 2020

Democrats are stupid enough to go the postal route after say Wednesday when most states have plenty of Drop Boxes.

Besides, your numbers are national, not Wisconsin specific. A number of states have laws making Postmark deciding date. In fact, the same SC we are griping about just allowed Pennsylvania to count ballots received by Nov 6 if postmarked by Nov 3.

Just vote and we win. Gripe and give up, we lose.

edhopper

(37,369 posts)
16. Clinton lost WI
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 05:12 AM
Oct 2020

By only 10,000. And you don't think this ruling will impact the election?
Wow.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
18. No, because first it affects GOPers as well. Most importantly, do you think Democrats are stupid
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 08:34 AM
Oct 2020

enough to mail a ballot when it likely won't get there by Nov 3 when there are numerous official drop boxes available and early voting? I don't, but apparently you do.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
25. It is insulting for people to act like Democrats haven't got sense enough to get ballots in on time.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:54 AM
Oct 2020

Wish someone would explain why they keep doing it.

edhopper

(37,369 posts)
28. We need independents to win
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 10:12 AM
Oct 2020

And many people have lives that don't allow them to pay attention to all the ins and outs of the election details. The got a mail in ballot and think if they send it in before the election it will be counted. They won't be now.
You seem to be of the opinion that all Democratic and independent voters are on Democratic forums paying attention to every news item.
Again, Hillary lost WI by 0.5%.

How many votes do you think will be lost because of the GOP's interference?

bullimiami

(14,075 posts)
6. A coup is a coup regardless. They got away with one when it was very close.
Mon Oct 26, 2020, 11:54 PM
Oct 2020

Pull blatant shit and what may result??

SomedayKindaLove

(1,180 posts)
8. No telling how many votes they just suppressed in Wisconsin
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 12:02 AM
Oct 2020

Guess they are only for states rights when those rights are used to suppress people.
When a state tries to protect it’s citizens vote, they are against states rights.

Trump is tonight tweeting all votes must be counted by Nov 3
The post office has already been gutted
If you haven’t already mailed in your ballot, and depending on what the laws are in your state, which the Supreme Court can apparently change, a week before the election, you might want to consider....

VOTING IN PERSON and SOON!



Celerity

(54,407 posts)
13. they said 200,000 plus in just WI (on multiple MSNBC shows)
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 12:45 AM
Oct 2020

I have multiple ways that this shit (the election on every level) can go pear shaped at a multiplicity of inflection points, but I am done posting on it.

It serves no purpose at this point and just invites trouble here now as we are nearing the end and people are already in extreme stress and have a building anger. I am already on record as saying there are going to be some bonkers moves attempted to be pulled off.

FakeNoose

(41,631 posts)
22. Recent Covid activity - new cases - is very high in WI
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:12 AM
Oct 2020

I believe that a lot of people who intended to vote in person on November 3rd are going to stay home to avoid the crowds. That's what any sensible person would do, anyway. If that's the case, it would tend to favor Biden and the Democratic candidates, wouldn't you think?

Early voters and mailed ballots are going to make a difference in Wisconsin.
That's how it looks to me.

I don't see how this will be a question for SCOTUS to rule on.

edhopper

(37,369 posts)
24. One would hope
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 09:52 AM
Oct 2020

But the SC just threw it up to grabs and made sure all votes will not count.

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