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bigtree

(94,672 posts)
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:22 AM Oct 2020

We'd have a better chance of impeaching a couple of justices than expanding the Court

...with a Democratic Senate, the House could investigate the cretins with some certainty of a prosecution, if not conviction.

They could include some of those credential-lacking judges in their investigations, and look into those things the republican-led Judiciary committee refused to consider.

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We'd have a better chance of impeaching a couple of justices than expanding the Court (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2020 OP
Stop BruinDadd Oct 2020 #1
nah bigtree Oct 2020 #3
It takes 2/3 majority to impeach a justice...but Glenn Kirschner said Kavanaugh lied under oath Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #2
Impeachment, sure. But that's impotent without removal. RockRaven Oct 2020 #4
I don't think there won't be enough support for expanding bigtree Oct 2020 #6
At present, there is nothing which FORCES recusals for SCOTUS, and Thomas has shown that RockRaven Oct 2020 #11
With a simple Senate majority Desert grandma Oct 2020 #5
I don't think we have all the Democrats on that bigtree Oct 2020 #8
That's what they say now. Desert grandma Oct 2020 #12
Nonsense. PTWB Oct 2020 #7
flesh it out politically bigtree Oct 2020 #9
They'll be singing a different tune soon enough. PTWB Oct 2020 #10
Sorry But I think Yours is an Awful Take. Indykatie Oct 2020 #13
it's not great bigtree Oct 2020 #14

Thekaspervote

(35,824 posts)
2. It takes 2/3 majority to impeach a justice...but Glenn Kirschner said Kavanaugh lied under oath
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:27 AM
Oct 2020

During his hearings, could face criminal charges and forced to resign or just resign not to face charges.

RockRaven

(19,754 posts)
4. Impeachment, sure. But that's impotent without removal.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:32 AM
Oct 2020

Impeachment requires >1/2 in the House.
Removal after impeachment requires >2/3 in the Senate.

Expanding SCOTUS requires a bill being passed and signed/enacted.
That means >1/2 House and >3/5 Senate (or >1/2 if filibuster is "nuked" ) and a signature or non veto by POTUS.

Both 1/2 and 3/5 are less than 2/3... So... Which one is easier to achieve, huh?

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
6. I don't think there won't be enough support for expanding
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:41 AM
Oct 2020

...but a withering investigation could force recusals, at the least, and votes as well from a still vulnerable republican Senate minority (dream scenario).

RockRaven

(19,754 posts)
11. At present, there is nothing which FORCES recusals for SCOTUS, and Thomas has shown that
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:49 AM
Oct 2020

they will not be shamed by mere publicizing of conflicts of interest into following the recusal guidelines for lower courts (which do not have teeth when it comes to SCOTUS).

Any talk of conflicts of interest for SCOTUS is a polite fiction which Repukes ignore on principle and Dems abide only under the delusion that personal integrity has any virtue when it comes to SCOTUS.

Desert grandma

(1,077 posts)
5. With a simple Senate majority
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:35 AM
Oct 2020

the court could be expanded. A simple majority could pass a bill in both houses by removing the filibuster. They would do the same (and did so for SCOTUS nominees. Expanding court would be much easier IMO.

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
8. I don't think we have all the Democrats on that
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:44 AM
Oct 2020

...maybe we can try both, though.

Kelly, Jon Ossoff, and Cal Cunningham, prospective new senators are opposed. Feinstein also said no.

Desert grandma

(1,077 posts)
12. That's what they say now.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:56 AM
Oct 2020

Let's see what they say when the ACA is struck down. Their constituents will be screaming at them to do something.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
7. Nonsense.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:43 AM
Oct 2020

It would take a regular majority in the house and senate plus the presidency to expand the court - it would take a two thirds majority in the senate to impeach and remove.

Your assertion - that impeachment is the easier path - is simply wrong.

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
9. flesh it out politically
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:46 AM
Oct 2020

...where are the votes for the simple majority in the Senate?

Not all Dems are in favor of expanding.

I'll bet the House is itching to investigate, though.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
10. They'll be singing a different tune soon enough.
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 02:48 AM
Oct 2020

Once Roe is overturned and the ACA is deemed unconstitutional by this hyper partisan court.

bigtree

(94,672 posts)
14. it's not great
Tue Oct 27, 2020, 03:55 AM
Oct 2020

...but I think we're more likely to see a commission on judicial reform or the like, before we'll see any bill advance on expanding the court.

By that time...

The House is probably going to investigate anyway.

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