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(31,501 posts)DBoon
(25,266 posts)a quote attributed to Henry II of England preceding the death of Thomas Becket, the Archbishop of Canterbury, in 1170. While the quote was not expressed as an order, it prompted four knights to travel from Normandy to Canterbury, where they killed Becket.
- Wikipedia
Kid Berwyn
(25,480 posts)I didnt, but I did, didnt I?
What ya gonna do about it?
as a kid watched "Becket" at least 20 times. That scene... unforgettable. That quote popped into my head immediately. And he knows exactly what he's doing.
madaboutharry
(42,038 posts)And he is getting sicker by the day.
denbot
(9,951 posts)And no surprises either..
Absolutely correct!
Voltaire2
(15,377 posts)malaise
(299,558 posts)This is a dangerous lunatic
dianaredwing
(406 posts)If anyone else had said this they would have been arrested. That is an obvious threat. It's not like Joe is a poor black kid in a ghetto who is likely to get shot. He's a professional on the campaign trail where I don't recall anyone ever previously having been shot. They need to drop a giant cage over the entire Republican party and set it out in the desert somewhere. This is really scary shit.
sarisataka
(22,986 posts)In 1912
Delmette2.0
(4,506 posts)usajumpedtheshark
(673 posts)kentuck
(116,028 posts)...including FOX News.
It is not acceptable to make such comments.
Midnight Writer
(25,983 posts)Now Trump and his defenders can claim he meant "shot" as in an old car, but we all know what his people are hearing when he uses that, as Frank would call it, "loaded term".
As Frank famously says, "It's not what you say that counts, it's what people hear".
That is why Right Wing speeches are full of key words meant to race past the intellect and land in the emotional gut.
whopis01
(3,944 posts)They certainly weren't crosshairs, were they?
Especially not the one on Gabby Giffords.

louis-t
(24,698 posts)they didn't ALL get shot, right?
dianaredwing
(406 posts)to play word games. They are lucky to be able to string more than two together in a cohesive sentene.
Midnight Writer
(25,983 posts)while totally screwing the very people who are voting for them.
dameatball
(7,672 posts)JI7
(93,908 posts)over non whites.
yellowcanine
(36,886 posts)They would if anyone else said it.
MANative
(4,188 posts)Somewhere along the way, someone from his team "explained" that it meant "spent" or "finished." To me, it sounds like he's projecting something very different.
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)The meaning is not necessarily the one Trump ascribes to it. This is disgusting beyond all belief.
However, Trump is per se disgusting and vile beyond all belief.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Stochastic terrorism. He pushes it all the time. Imagine what he says in private.
WhiskeyGrinder
(27,362 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)That he deliberately uses vague language so he can claim total innocence if someone does it. Weve seen him do it over and over again.
Remember when someone asked him if he takes responsibility when he says things that incite violence? His answer was that he absolutely doesnt take responsibility. Hes a master at passing the buck.
BKDem
(1,733 posts)...but that guy's name escapes me. .
Deuxcents
(28,205 posts)How can we stop this? Governors being threatened with kidnapping, plots intercepted, thankfully, but this is just outright calling for the harm if his opponent. How can we stop this..besides vote..who can stop this?
Arkansas Granny
(32,265 posts)doc03
(39,235 posts)jrthin
(5,236 posts)Quite possibly, criminally insane.
dianaredwing
(406 posts)there is not a pore nor an atom of his body that is not criminal.
NorthOf270
(290 posts)Mariana
(15,632 posts)Did he imply Democrats would assassinate Biden to accomplish this? I think he did.
onetexan
(13,913 posts)they go after her. Despicable and criminal.
Mariana
(15,632 posts)If Biden were to be shot (literally or figuratively) three weeks after inauguration, Kamala will be the POTUS.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)"Look at how easily you could end up with a BLACK, FEMALE, SOCIALIST President". Something that scares them more than anything.
onetexan
(13,913 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)Liberal In Texas
(16,533 posts)More and more crap like this.
dianaredwing
(406 posts)if any of us has any hair left by election day. wish I had a trump doll that I could pull his out.
Grasswire2
(13,849 posts)raccoon
(32,501 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Thats criminal.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)No accountability, no character.
crickets
(26,168 posts)regarding a political opponent. "Oh, that wasn't what I really meant" is not a defense. toddler in chief needs to chill.
Paladin
(32,354 posts)It scares me to death, what trump's lunatics are capable of.
world wide wally
(21,836 posts)bdamomma
(69,667 posts)for saying that??? he's inciting violence. THIS IS NOT NORMAL.
25th Amendment please.
Lesley Stahl getting death threats and has security, Whitmer was threatened and has security, WTF are we becoming Russia, Turkey, North Korea????
WTF??? He needs to be pulled off stage and arrested.
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)Nor any other voter he needs that resides outside of his deranged base.
We KNOW pence ain't now, nor will he ever be "ready". And trump is far more likely to be replaced due to good old health issues.
So once again, he has no point other than evil spews of spittle and phlem.
highplainsdem
(63,694 posts)miming a gun to the head, his finger at his temple.
I have no doubt at all that Trump would be thrilled if one of his supporters shot Biden.
CTyankee
(68,590 posts)See the movie "Becket" which explains the quote (if you don't know it already).
Chili
(1,725 posts)Wouldn't take this seriously except that, yes, Trump has knights with AK15s who are just as sociopathic as he is. We don't know if even just one f*cking nutcase thinks that was his queue.
Solomon
(12,654 posts)CTyankee
(68,590 posts)Grasswire2
(13,849 posts)highplainsdem
(63,694 posts)according to tweets I just found.
Note -- I have no idea who these people are who were tweeting about this, and I am NOT endorsing any of their views -- especially those of the Trump supporters who tweeted about Trump doing this.
Here's a tweet from mid-August:
Link to tweet
Another, from a Trump supporter posting on October 17:
Link to tweet
Another Trump supporter posted on October 13 about Trump doing this and came to the bizarre conclusion that this means Biden's already dead and the Democratic campaign is using a body double:
Link to tweet
Jakes Progress
(11,214 posts)He's just a sociopathic idiot. By themselves they don't do that much harm. It is the millions of Americans who follow him and the thousands who enable him that are the problem.
If this jack ass were just left to his failed empire, the world would have been okay. But a few thousand greedy bastards propped him up so that the 44% that represent the stupidest people in the country would vote for him. Then the bastards maliciously used our constitution to subvert the very things it was supposed to protect.
The kochs and their ilk have brought America low. Abetted by knuckle dragging morons with no sense of truth.
Fuck them all. It was a great country while it lasted.
happy feet
(1,313 posts)and they'll be a THORN in the side with a democratic president and congress. He's told them the Dems are stealing from them---they're right and the rest of us are wrong. They won't fade into the woodwork--esp if Trump becomes the new Limbaugh and keeps stoking their hatred and sense of grievance.
EndlessWire
(8,103 posts)Along with the fascist GOP.
58Sunliner
(6,459 posts)Jakes Progress
(11,214 posts)Even if people voted for him, he wouldn't do any harm if the rich assholes who buy republican senators by the dozen didn't enable him, if the foreign tycoons that run faux news actually had any morals or guiding principles other than get rich.
trump and his family belong in jail. Instead, judges who don't believe in the law and politicians who are paid for by the kochs and the Russians keep him in power. trump is a know-nothing clown.
Focus your animus on those who corrupt our democracy for hate and greed - they are the enemy. trump is their tool. If I drop a refrigerator on you, Whirlpool isn't the problem; I am. (Although the people who run whirlpool probably fall into the rich asshole category.)
EndlessWire
(8,103 posts)with you. I will not absolve Trump of being a narcissistic, evil asshole. Sorry. Just because he got lucky and knew how to work the EC doesn't mean that he is not responsible for all his actions. HE ran for the job. HE lied about himself.
Yeah, there are idiots who voted for him. He LIED to them. Could they have bothered to look deeper? Yeah. But, HE is responsible for all the destruction of our political system. Our system requires a significant amount of following orders from the President. We gave that power to the position, and that is why we can't just up and hit him upside the head and haul him off.
Let me make this clear, because you apparently missed my memo: TRUMP IS MY ENEMY. Not the fools who voted for him, but Trump and the GOP. They have got to go.
Jakes Progress
(11,214 posts)It would help if you did.
I never absolved trump of anything. You say trump is the problem. The world is full of trumps. Lying, sociopathic assholes who are stupid as hell. The only bother those who chose to be with them. The problem is when people that you don't know (read about trump's money supporters) and the gullible idiots who work from places of hate and greed elevate them to positions of power.
You endow trump with way too much intelligence and cunning. He is an idiot. Republicans have offered up puppet idiots to president beginning with reagan.
If you give the people who are truly responsible for the travesty that has been foisted on America a pass, you are simply short sighted. If trump is all you want gone then you don't understand what is going on. This is not the work of one man, no matter how super intelligent and cunning you think he is. Once trump is no longer the president, the problems that have come from the idiots coming to power will still be there. There will be another trump, possibly one more clever and socially acceptable than this one. Then another and then another.
You say the at the people who voted for trump are not your enemy, but then you say that the GOP must go. Who do you think the GOP is? It is the people who voted for trump. I am part of the Democratic Party. They are part of the GOP.
Look. I know trump can make people blindingly, raging crazy. But don't take you eyes off the fact that to vote for trump twice means that you are stupid, racist, misogynist, selfish, mean, homophobic, xenophobic. Pick all that apply. My enemy are those people. Their votes are what got us here. They need a candidate that meets all those criteria. Once trump is gone, they will just get another. Think past next Tuesday.
EndlessWire
(8,103 posts)"Even if people voted for him, he wouldn't do any harm if the rich assholes who buy republican senators by the dozen didn't enable him, if the foreign tycoons that run faux news actually had any morals or guiding principles other than get rich."
This is a ludicrous statement. "He wouldn't do any harm if..." Do you think that the office of the Presidency is dependent on the okay of rich assholes? Well, of course YOU do, but in and of itself, it carries enough power for him to start a nuclear war, without any permission needed from anyone.
You started off by saying that Trump is not the problem. He IS the problem. We have a country that had the pus start oozing out of the woodwork; granted, we have much to fix in terms of attitudes toward those marginalized citizens. But, getting rid of Trump is paramount to fixing anything else that needs fixing.
If he wins, you can kiss the country goodbye. Life as we know it, or knew it, is OVER. Then, you can say, well, I hate those that voted for him (we will never know the truth of that,) but I guarantee that most everyone, except for you, will see the problem as being a narcissistic dictator wannabe who LED these people toward their doom. They are too stupid to visualize life under a dictator. They are too stupid to realize that he threw them under the covid bus. They are looking for a daddy, and it doesn't matter to them whether he is lying to them as long as they hear what they want to hear, and not the truth.
Trump is NOT too stupid to go after what he wants. He is evil and vicious, but he is doing everything he can to pursue his dream of a ruling family. It is a mistake to underestimate him and his.
You and I will never see eye to eye. I see Trump and the GOP PARTY as the enemy; you see your stupid, needy neighbor as the enemy. So be it. As ever, humans keep making the same mistakes over and over and over again.
One mistake made was electing Trump as pRes, although he had foreign help and help from rich bastards with evil intent. We will fix this mistake on Tuesday.
Jakes Progress
(11,214 posts)You want to accuse a fellow Democrat of seeing the needy as the enemy. That is absolutely despicable. Your post is an example of the worst kind of republican game playing. All you want to do is win an argument that you fomented over a bit of word play. That kind of sophistry (have someone look it up for you) is exactly the kind of thing the republicans are doing in ads against Democrats on every channel. It is disgusting. I can only hope that the hatred filling you against one stupid man has blinded you to the ability to have a decent civilized discussion.
Go ahead and hate. Just wallow in the simplistic joy of not having to analyze or think.
Then wake up on Wednesday to the drawing knowledge that ridding the White House of the fat orange buffoon is not going to make everything okay. All those stupid jack asses who voted for trump and all those corporate thugs will just pick another puppet and continue hating. They will not suddenly have the scales of bigotry and greed drop from their eyes when trump goes to jail. They will not suddenly love you for being so kind and understanding of their ignorance. We will vote trump out, but the ignorance, greed, and hate is still there. Ignorance, greed, and hate gave us trump. They will give us another at least as bad. Ignorance, greed, and hate are my enemies. You may think that once trump is defeated, you will have no more enemies.
Very shallow.
EndlessWire
(8,103 posts)It's pointless to talk to you; you attacked me first. And, it's not like I needed to answer you in the first place.
Insults don't go well with me. Your opinion is now overlooked. End of discussion. I have better things to do than satisfy your desire to fight.
Jakes Progress
(11,214 posts)before you post. Ah well.
I didn't attack you. I had my say about the state of the electorate (which this night is proving out) and you leapt to attack someone who didn't fall into your righteous rant.
I retract my thoughts about your not being able to reason in your state of rage. You can't refute any of my contentions without misquoting and purposeful misunderstanding, so you wisely bow out. Very rational given that the results coming in right now on election night prove my point.
bdamomma
(69,667 posts)haul tRump's ass in. He threatened a presidential candidate.
dchill
(42,660 posts)Roc2020
(1,796 posts)it's pass desperation now. He sees cell bars. Joe will be fine he has the same secret service protection as Trump! Priceless seeing Trump come apart like this!
judesedit
(4,604 posts)It would let Dumpy believe he is a rockstar and a shoo in. And will secure their positions. I'm praying there are a few decent humans babysitting the chump.
LymphocyteLover
(10,410 posts)he is scum
steventh
(2,194 posts)after January 20. Very soon after January 20. Show no mercy Joe. *45 deserves none after this threat on your life.
judesedit
(4,604 posts)in public, unfortunately. I hope they are.
iluvtennis
(21,562 posts)StarryNite
(12,197 posts)debsy
(1,095 posts)He is the lowest of all living beings.
Cha
(321,530 posts)myohmy2
(3,723 posts)...predicting Joe Biden being shot as Prez?
...does trump know something we don't know?
...look at the bright side, for Kamala to be ready, Joe has to be President...
...acknowledging your problems is the first step to recovery...
Gore1FL
(22,998 posts)He knows what he is doing. He doesn't care.
Cha
(321,530 posts)cayugafalls
(5,987 posts)A sitting president asking one of his poor boys to take out his rival...fucking disgusting pig.
Somebody needs to put him in a straight jacket and a rubber room and forget where they put the key.
malaise
(299,558 posts)Lock him up
kentuck
(116,028 posts)What?
As Michael Cohen said, he speaks in code. Who calls anybody "Watermelon Head"?
If it was "code", what was he trying to say?
He knows that snipers and gun lovers like to shoot watermelons to watch them explode? They use them as a "headshot".
Was he trying to communicate with some sick-minded individual? Who knows?
SayItLoud
(1,774 posts)especially if/when he loses. He will burn down everything. Maybe invade Venezuela or ? and leave it for Biden. There is NO bottom to his evilness. He MUST be held accountable and his crime family as well. To the gates of Hell he must be pursued.
JDC
(11,246 posts)Surely they will be outraged or this outwardly blatant example!
Will not hold my breath...
58Sunliner
(6,459 posts)Is it ok to throw eggs yet?
ancianita
(43,442 posts)BruinDadd
(29 posts)See something say something
liberal N proud
(61,207 posts)Meanwhile the cult rises up and some nut job will try to do the job.
Boogiemack
(1,406 posts)His crazed ass must be stopped. You know that someone of the boogaloo types or white supremacists are going to try to follow through...EXCEPT they would be doing this before the election so as to prevent Kamala from being President. This is so outrageous how can the media or our Intel stand by without doing something. Nancy should convene a special session to censure this bastard.
BobTheSubgenius
(12,267 posts)I thought the bottom had been reached so many times over the last few years, yet the depravity continues and, almost impossibly, gets deeper and broader.
This is a completely disoriented world. How one man can overcome the counterweight of the entirety of civilization and society is totally beyond me.
GoCubsGo
(35,076 posts)Not "shot with a gun. He has been spouting this same crap for weeks now.
highplainsdem
(63,694 posts)See my reply 36 above, and my reply 93 in that subthread. I haven't been able to find a screen shot yet, or video, but did find tweets from people including Trump supporters tweeting about Trump doing this at times, gesturing to indicate someone being shot in the head while he says Biden is "shot," since last summer. I didn't see it till recently.
GoCubsGo
(35,076 posts)Been watching these idiotic things every day since Hal Sparks started doing his mockery broadcasts back in March. He shows what a fucking self-centered, moronic sack of shit he is at every one of them. I just don't agree with the conclusions being drawn here.
highplainsdem
(63,694 posts)Keep in mind that Trump is well aware that people have already threatened to kill Biden.
And keep in mind that he knows exactly how gun-crazy, and just plain crazy, many of his supporters are.
FWIW, I've never seen anyone else hold a finger gun to their head when saying someone or something is "shot" when all they mean is worn out, etc.
GoCubsGo
(35,076 posts)NAW!!!! REALLY???? I hadn't noticed
I'm not seeing him hold a "finger gun" to his head anywhere in that clip, btw.
highplainsdem
(63,694 posts)36 and 93, I've seen him do it other times when saying Biden's "shot" and so have other people who tweeted about it, including Trump supporters, and he's been doing this at times since last summer.
Tommy_Carcetti
(44,614 posts)I would look it up in a thesaurus, but Im just too tired at the moment.
Exhausted. Worn down. Fatigued, even.
Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #100)
GoCubsGo This message was self-deleted by its author.
2naSalit
(104,794 posts)His mouth is too dangerous to be outside of a padded cell.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Poiuyt
(18,272 posts)I think he has dysphasia or dysarthria.
MerryBlooms
(12,565 posts)Skittles
(173,619 posts)while being his usual racist and sexist piece of shit