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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 10:04 AM Oct 2020

The GOP's monstrous math problem

Axios

Republicans, win or lose next week, face a big — and growing — math problem.

The state of play: They're relying almost exclusively on a shrinking demographic (white men), living in shrinking areas (small, rural towns), creating a reliance on people with shrinking incomes (white workers without college degrees) to survive.

Why it matters: You can't win elections without diversity, bigger population centers and sufficient money.

Flashback: Before President Trump, the GOP acknowledged all this. Then-RNC Chair Reince Priebus said in his "autopsy" after Mitt Romney's loss in 2012: "We need to campaign among Hispanic, black, Asian and gay Americans and demonstrate we care about them, too. We must recruit more candidates who come from minority communities."

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Amishman

(5,893 posts)
1. We've been talking demographic inevitability for decades
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 10:35 AM
Oct 2020

Ultimately the political spectrum is too broad in this country for there to ever be a single long term / permanent majority party.

As society shifts left, the center moves, and the parties eventually rebalance on that center. After this blue wave, the Pubs might stumble for a cycle or two - by the will consolidate eventually a little closer to the current center - which we will have moved away from.

This cycle has been playing out for generations

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
2. The genius of the two party system is that it allows a small minority to control the government
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 11:01 AM
Oct 2020

Theoretically 26% can win the primary and then win the general with 51%.

In practice, about 40 of people eligible to vote don't vote - most don't even register. Which makes the percentage of the population for control even smaller.

Furthermore, access to and control of the party machinery is confined to an even smaller percentage, as is the ability to influence public opinion through the media, think tanks, lobbying, the educational systems, etc.

So in the end, there is a pretty small percentage of the population that controls the system. Raw demographics isn't really that significant.

Dopers_Greed

(2,647 posts)
3. The GOP is doing a better job of attracting Latinos than we are
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 01:33 PM
Oct 2020

If this trend continues, we are doomed.

I've been hearing about "changing demographics" favoring Dems since I voted for the first time 16 years ago.

Still not happening.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
11. Hogwash. Take that doom and gloom somewhere else.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:36 AM
Oct 2020

It absolute IS happening.

Tell Vlad I said hello.

scrabblequeen40

(335 posts)
12. He calls them low IQ and criminal
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:39 AM
Oct 2020

It's working great. In their dreams.

In reality, very few latinos give him two shits. B

bullwinkle428

(20,655 posts)
13. Shouldn't we be seeing a huge "Republican LatinX wave" if that were the case?
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:40 AM
Oct 2020

Little Marco and Teddy Cruz do not a wave make, in my eyes. I've been voting for 36 years, and most certainly have seen the shifting demographics over that time period.

PJMcK

(23,926 posts)
4. Hey, Reince!
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 02:04 PM
Oct 2020

You wrote that report then a few years later you went to work for Trump?!

You're a bigger fool than even Trump. He used you, turned you inside out then disposed of you.

Loser.

Aussie105

(7,104 posts)
5. The GOP isn't very good at math.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 06:11 PM
Oct 2020

Add to that the feeling they all have that they are Born to Power, and it is their God given right to rule forever, there is only one solution:

They need to be put to the sword.

Figuratively speaking, of course.

Too bad, so sad! Not really, high time actually.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
6. It is likely that the GOP will simply adjust their propaganda machine.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 06:40 PM
Oct 2020

Fascist Oligarch eXtremists will rush to reprogram.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
7. republicans and Math
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:54 AM
Oct 2020

Just don’t seem appropriate in the same sentence unless it is figuring out how much to loot from the treasury.

calimary

(87,056 posts)
8. They're going to have to change their POLICIES if they want to
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:55 AM
Oct 2020

demonstrate that they care about those groups too. Words and platitudes won’t cut it.

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,332 posts)
9. I don't presume the future will be a projection...
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:59 AM
Oct 2020

... of current voting patterns. Hispanics might become a major voting bloc for Republicans in the future for all I know.


Survival of civilization is mostly on my mind for now.

bucolic_frolic

(51,469 posts)
10. GOP sells financial dreams, Dems sell community
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 07:25 AM
Oct 2020

If we make the tax system more progressive to promote economic equality and justice, and breakup monopolies, common folks will stand a chance.

We've let Republicans have free reign to feed egos and narcissism. You - every one of you - can be a millioinaire with a golf course, a retirement home in a gated community, travel. All you have to do is vote Republican. When they don't get it they're angry, so Republicans court their anger.

We need to level the playing field.

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