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JohnnyRingo

(18,623 posts)
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 10:22 AM Oct 2020

Top climate scientist fired at NOAA.

Few know in this era of fire hose news that Trump signed a new executive order this month. In it he allows himself to fire anyone who appears less than loyal to him without giving reason. Before this, one would have to exercise incompetence or worse to get the ax. This leaves open the ability for Trump to request a loyalty oath for influential federal positions. XO #13957

Well, it didn't take long for the first public servant to be shown the door for not kowtowing to the utter majesty of the king's new clothes.

As Election Nears, Trump Makes a Final Push Against Climate Science

The administration is imposing new limits on the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration that would undercut action against global warming.

The chief of staff at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration fired the agency’s acting chief scientist after the latter asked Donald Trump’s appointees to acknowledge NOAA’s scientific integrity policy, The New York Times reports. Craig McLean, the acting chief scientist at NOAA, sent an email last month to several new employees at NOAA who had been installed by the Trump administration requesting their acknowledgement of the agency’s rules that prohibit changing research and data to fit a political agenda.

Dr. Erik Noble, the newly appointed NOAA chief of staff and a former White House policy adviser, wrote back, “Respectfully, by what authority are you sending this to me?” McLean said that his job as acting chief scientist entailed maintaining ethics across NOAA. Noble responded the next day, “You no longer serve as the acting chief scientist for NOAA. Thank you for your service.” In McLean’s stead, Noble hired Ryan Maue, a former researcher for a libertarian think tank. Maue has previously said scientists have made overly dire predictions about climate change. Trump’s administration has attempted to manipulate NOAA throughout his term.

More here at NYT:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/27/climate/trump-election-climate-noaa.html

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Top climate scientist fired at NOAA. (Original Post) JohnnyRingo Oct 2020 OP
It's a badge of honor to be fired by the Orange Anus luv2fly Oct 2020 #1
so many first things to do lapfog_1 Oct 2020 #2
Petty little schmuck. BKDem Oct 2020 #3
NYT: NOAA's acting chief scientist was removed after he sent some new political appointees ... mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2020 #4
Reincarnation of the Soviet Union. LastDemocratInSC Oct 2020 #5
Good god. This is a big deal. jeffreyi Oct 2020 #6
There are two types of public servant. JohnnyRingo Oct 2020 #8
Dadgum Joe should use this to rid our government WhiteTara Oct 2020 #7
"How dare you tell department members what department policy is??? You're fired." muriel_volestrangler Oct 2020 #9
Trump wears his stupidity as a badge of honor Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2020 #10

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
1. It's a badge of honor to be fired by the Orange Anus
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 10:25 AM
Oct 2020

Should Joe win, the best of these folks would likely be rehired I suspect.

lapfog_1

(29,198 posts)
2. so many first things to do
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 10:30 AM
Oct 2020

someone needs to make a big giant "undo" list...

pack the courts... all of them - district, circuit, supreme

fire all the trumpers in the gov.

undo all executive orders

rehire all the people wrongly fired

change the rules in the Senate so the new minority party has no role



mahatmakanejeeves

(57,370 posts)
4. NYT: NOAA's acting chief scientist was removed after he sent some new political appointees ...
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 10:39 AM
Oct 2020
NYT: NOAA's acting chief scientist was removed after he sent some new political appointees a message that asked them to acknowledge the agency's scientific integrity policy, which prohibits manipulating research or presenting ideologically driven findings.


jeffreyi

(1,938 posts)
6. Good god. This is a big deal.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 11:09 AM
Oct 2020

Is this really a consequence of that EO, or? That position would probably be SES, they pretty much serve at the pleasure of, no?

JohnnyRingo

(18,623 posts)
8. There are two types of public servant.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 11:45 AM
Oct 2020

Those in the cabinet are excepted service and can be let go at any time for any reason. Employees like this scientist are competitive service hired on a merit based system and must show incompetence or ineptitude to be fired. Further, Trump's XO stops union organization, because of course it does.

Members of the competitive service are hired according to a neutral, merit-based selection process and have protections against at-will removal by their supervisors. Members of the excepted service, on the other hand, are hired by agencies to fill certain positions for which candidates cannot be appropriately assessed through the merit-based selection process and do not share in the competitive service's at-will removal protections.


Opponents of the order, including American Federation of Government Employees National President Everett Kelley, argued that the order would politicize a large portion of the civil service. “This executive order strips due process rights and protections from perhaps hundreds of thousands of federal employees and will enable political appointees and other officials to hire and fire these workers at will,” said Kelley in a statement


Here is the pdf of the order:
https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2020-23780.pdf

WhiteTara

(29,699 posts)
7. Dadgum Joe should use this to rid our government
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 11:39 AM
Oct 2020

of trumpers and then reinstate the civil service status. We could get rid of *cos lingering staffers.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
9. "How dare you tell department members what department policy is??? You're fired."
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 04:35 PM
Oct 2020

This is so much fucking bullshit, it's incredible.

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