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(85,986 posts)
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 12:31 PM Oct 2020

Oh Lordy, There Are Kushner Tapes.

Jeffrey Guterman @JeffreyGuterman 12m
Oh Lordy, there are #KushnerTapes.

Jeffrey Guterman @JeffreyGuterman 4m
Kushner to Woodward on April 18, 2020: "Trump’s now back in charge. It’s not the doctors."

Jeffrey Guterman @JeffreyGuterman 3m
Kushner to Woodward on April 18, 2020: "The last thing was kind of doing the guidelines ... it was almost like Trump getting the country back from the doctors. Right? In the sense that what he now did was, you know, he’s going to own the open-up."

Jeffrey Guterman @JeffreyGuterman 2m
Kushner to Woodward on April 18, 2020: "And what Trump’s been able to do is, I say he basically did a full hostile takeover of the Republican Party. And I don’t think it’s even as much about the issues. I think it’s about the attitude."


article (audio): https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/28/politics/woodward-kushner-coronavirus-doctors/index.html

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Oh Lordy, There Are Kushner Tapes. (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2020 OP
Haha! Do tell soothsayer Oct 2020 #1
Keep Trump defending in the news cycle all week Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #2
Frustraiting wait chuckperth Oct 2020 #28
Good! Should help in their prosecution. Lars39 Oct 2020 #3
Shocker, out of touch rich kid who doesn't know when to shut up.. RANDYWILDMAN Oct 2020 #4
Hostile takeover, assets, equity, forced positions. Please continue Clearly fogged in Oct 2020 #5
HOSTILE TAKEOVER explains all the brown nosing Captain Zero Oct 2020 #57
Let's split into 2 groups Clearly fogged in Oct 2020 #58
Oh good. NoRoadUntravelled Oct 2020 #6
There was no hostile takeover of the Republican Party. Mariana Oct 2020 #63
Maybe they'd like to think of it egotistcally as a takeover... Beartracks Oct 2020 #68
What soul? Mariana Oct 2020 #69
That is it exactly. Beartracks Oct 2020 #70
Can't argue with that. I still find it fascinating that not many ranking Republicans NoRoadUntravelled Oct 2020 #71
I think they jumped on board as soon as they realized Mariana Oct 2020 #72
Damn straight! Ive been saying for years that Republicans Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2020 #74
Son of con, married to a con whose father is a con. What can I say? nt Boogiemack Oct 2020 #7
+1 dalton99a Oct 2020 #18
Con Founded. Kid Berwyn Oct 2020 #29
And everyone else is a "mark", a rube, a loser, sucker. erronis Oct 2020 #41
K&R Solly Mack Oct 2020 #8
Woodward taped a couple of conversations with Kushner. Laelth Oct 2020 #9
I don't remember hearing the audio bigtree Oct 2020 #12
No. You're right. Laelth Oct 2020 #14
Good! highplainsdem Oct 2020 #10
Yep. That is fascism right there... Caliman73 Oct 2020 #11
Obviously many of the (r)epuglicons wanted to be part of the looting, defiling erronis Oct 2020 #42
Of course terminally greedy Donny took over Greed Over People. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2020 #48
through limbaugh/talk radio putin took over the republican party since at least 2008 certainot Oct 2020 #55
Yeah, it's trump's Fucking "attitude" toward Cha Oct 2020 #73
By the majority of the world. nt MrsCoffee Oct 2020 #75
Oh Yes.. what was I thinking.. TY! Cha Oct 2020 #76
K&R Blue Owl Oct 2020 #13
Like skyjacking, Jared? moondust Oct 2020 #15
There are over 330 million passengers on the plane hijacked by Donnie Death Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2020 #67
'And I don't think it's even as much about the issues. I think it's about the attitude."' elleng Oct 2020 #16
Diktatspeak. The language of one man rule. ancianita Oct 2020 #17
"He's going to own the open-up." calimary Oct 2020 #19
Yes he does own it. Opening up was a deadly failure and tRump & Kushner own it. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2020 #50
wow, ken doll truly is a blithering idiot. nt Javaman Oct 2020 #20
"Trump's now back in charge. It's not the doctors." Well he is smarter than all Doctors, KS Toronado Oct 2020 #21
Any recordings about him seizing the PPE... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #22
He said it was like a 'negotiated settlement' with the doctors! n/t moonscape Oct 2020 #23
Oh my! This is going to be interesting! If I was a repuke leader, that would piss me off... liberalla Oct 2020 #24
Quotes in a book are one thing. 'Mericans need audio or video to have them take notice. NoMoreRepugs Oct 2020 #25
but there IS actual audio Roland99 Oct 2020 #38
Thanks. Damning. erronis Oct 2020 #45
I thought that was the point I was making. Book has been out for weeks - now this item is getting NoMoreRepugs Oct 2020 #64
ah....yeah...i see what you meant now Roland99 Oct 2020 #65
Serious question. Is this a homicide case? Takket Oct 2020 #26
Definitely manslaughter. roamer65 Oct 2020 #30
I've become more keen to the idea... Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #33
Full quote: "When people show you who they are believe them. The first time." OMGWTF Oct 2020 #56
Thank you! nt Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #62
Do Coronavirus Deaths Quality For Putin's Dead-Americans Bounty? Asking For A Foe.... nt smb Oct 2020 #59
Oh, my Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #27
So Trump "owning" The Open Up DallasNE Oct 2020 #31
Arrogant little prick xxqqqzme Oct 2020 #32
The little twerp finally gets some heat. Turn it up! marble falls Oct 2020 #34
With his 10+ (?) demanding govt. jobs, how did he find time for interviews? Brainfodder Oct 2020 #35
Nice work, Jar-jar...you putz. BobTheSubgenius Oct 2020 #36
...and October's not over yet! Damn... Sancho Oct 2020 #37
This won't get the dems any votes. The magats want him to strongarm everyone lindysalsagal Oct 2020 #39
Hubris is coming back to bite you, isn't it, Jared? What a sick control freak. nt crickets Oct 2020 #40
Just who do these mob$teR$ think they R?? Lock him up. Oct 2020 #43
In the grand scheme of things, this won't amount to much. progressoid Oct 2020 #44
So he could whut???? Grins Oct 2020 #46
Donny tRump is ONLY about attitude. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2020 #47
Thanks, Jered, for the OCTOBER SURPRISE!!! TruckFump Oct 2020 #49
Was it really a hostile takeover? tonedevil Oct 2020 #51
17 candidates. Trump didn't get a majority of votes in their primaries underpants Oct 2020 #52
Which of the late night hosts had the line. . . matt819 Oct 2020 #53
There is no Republican party; it's the Trump Party now. OMGWTF Oct 2020 #54
First They Just Recycled The 2016 Platform... smb Oct 2020 #61
One more October surprise coming up malaise Oct 2020 #60
Lock them up rockfordfile Oct 2020 #66
Brooks Brother Fascist. kairos12 Oct 2020 #77

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,668 posts)
4. Shocker, out of touch rich kid who doesn't know when to shut up..
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 12:37 PM
Oct 2020

Thanks Jared, you are exactly who we thought you were.

Captain Zero

(6,802 posts)
57. HOSTILE TAKEOVER explains all the brown nosing
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 03:08 PM
Oct 2020

Of Republicans to him. Must have been a lot of blackmail and other threats.

Clearly fogged in

(1,896 posts)
58. Let's split into 2 groups
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 03:25 PM
Oct 2020

The victims or targets of blackmail and threats.
The willing accomplices like McConnell, Graham, and Barr. No one can peel back how far the layers of corruption go.

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
6. Oh good.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 12:39 PM
Oct 2020

tRump's hostile takeover of the Republican party confirmed by his son in law. tRump's hostile takeover of control over the deadly Coronavirus from scientific experts and medical personnel confirmed by his son in law.
The reality show drama continues. Let's hope this revelation is a thread that actually contributes to the unraveling of the tRump family evil empire by winding itself around their scheming necks.
Or will MSM ignore it?

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
68. Maybe they'd like to think of it egotistcally as a takeover...
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 09:01 PM
Oct 2020

... but the GOP was already selling its soul.

========

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
69. What soul?
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 09:13 PM
Oct 2020

Trump retains nearly 100% support among Republican voters. Republican elected officials have cheered him on and rubber-stamped everything he's wanted, in lockstep. Many popular and influential Republican Christian leaders have preached that loyalty to Trump is essentially a tenet of the Christian faith. The Republican Party declined to write a platform this year, instead they published a letter stating that they intend to enthusiastically support Trump in whatever he wants.

There was no takeover, hostile or otherwise. Trump is the leader the Republicans have wished for. He is the very embodiment of Republicanism.

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
71. Can't argue with that. I still find it fascinating that not many ranking Republicans
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 09:48 PM
Oct 2020

seemed all that crazy about him until after he was elected. Then they did a 180. It was enough of a turn around for Lindsay Graham to be featured in a Lincoln Project ad. It's my understanding that Graham played a game of golf with the new POTUS and was suddenly a great supporter. I wonder how it happened with the others.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
72. I think they jumped on board as soon as they realized
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 10:16 PM
Oct 2020

that their voters back home were enthralled with Trump. When it became clear how popular he was with them, and they had the House and the Senate, the ranking Republicans realized this was their big chance to do a bunch of the things they've wanted to do all along.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
74. Damn straight! Ive been saying for years that Republicans
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 07:28 AM
Oct 2020

were everything that they have now proven themseves to be.

So many people said I was being too hard on them & overestimating their bigotry, corruption, dishonestly, hypocrisy, lack of decency & morals, disdain for justice, etc., etc., etc.

Despite the RW propaganda trying to deny it, all the clues were there. I never understood how so many people didn't see it.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
9. Woodward taped a couple of conversations with Kushner.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 12:41 PM
Oct 2020

He mentions them in his most recent book. This is not exactly a new revelation.

-Laelth

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
14. No. You're right.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 12:51 PM
Oct 2020

Woodward describes the conversations in his book, and he tells us that the conversations were recorded, but, to my knowledge, the recordings have not yet been made public. Evidently, they have now.

-Laelth

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
11. Yep. That is fascism right there...
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 12:41 PM
Oct 2020
Kushner to Woodward on April 18, 2020: "And what Trump’s been able to do is, I say he basically did a full hostile takeover of the Republican Party. And I don’t think it’s even as much about the issues. I think it’s about the attitude."

Ceremony over policy. Hostile takeover. Nationalism. Making the press the enemy. Sowing distrust in institutions in order to silence opposition.

They like to brag and give away the playbook.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
42. Obviously many of the (r)epuglicons wanted to be part of the looting, defiling
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 02:29 PM
Oct 2020

of the US.

McTurtle, Meadows, Jordan, Nunes, Graham, Collins, ...
I'd just have to list the whole of the repuglicons in congress, including RMoney.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
55. through limbaugh/talk radio putin took over the republican party since at least 2008
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 03:06 PM
Oct 2020

when mccain had campaign co chair manafort, who had hooked up with russian agent klimnick 2 years before and was basically working for putin - job description was to get putin favorites elected in foreign countries, and llimbaugh would not support mccain until minutes after he picked palin. palin had been wooed by russian oil and gas.

are russians calling rw radio shows? is limbaugh mentor conrad black, who supports russian joining G8 a conduit? all putin had to do was feed limbaugh - limbaugh cordinates with trump - there are plenty of indirect rw media ways to get limbaugh material to feed to all 1500 rw radio stations...... the collusion was right under our nose

Cha

(297,154 posts)
73. Yeah, it's trump's Fucking "attitude" toward
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 10:18 PM
Oct 2020

humanity that has him hated by the majority of Americans.

moondust

(19,972 posts)
15. Like skyjacking, Jared?
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 01:19 PM
Oct 2020

Terrorist hijacks a plane from professional pilots and crashes it, creating a disaster with many dead.

Fake pResident hijacks a pandemic from medical professionals and crashes it, creating a disaster with many dead.

Like that, Jared?

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
67. There are over 330 million passengers on the plane hijacked by Donnie Death
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 06:12 PM
Oct 2020

Jarvanka, like the entire GOP, doesn't waste a second of thought for the people dying. Jarvanka and GOP care only about power and wealth.

KS Toronado

(17,199 posts)
21. "Trump's now back in charge. It's not the doctors." Well he is smarter than all Doctors,
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 01:31 PM
Oct 2020

Generals, grave diggers (look how he packs them in) What could possibly go wrong?
How about 400,000 deaths before he's dragged out of the White House in a straight jacket.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
22. Any recordings about him seizing the PPE...
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 01:32 PM
Oct 2020

... that so many healthcare workers were pleading to get?

That body-snatcher pod-born piece of shit!

NoMoreRepugs

(9,412 posts)
25. Quotes in a book are one thing. 'Mericans need audio or video to have them take notice.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 01:35 PM
Oct 2020

Sad but true. This is not going to help RUMP, hurt him - doubtful, BUT it doesn't help.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,412 posts)
64. I thought that was the point I was making. Book has been out for weeks - now this item is getting
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 04:14 PM
Oct 2020

out into the mainstream cuz of the audio being released.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
33. I've become more keen to the idea...
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 02:10 PM
Oct 2020

... that it's all been intentional, not the result of stupidity/incompetence and no different than if Putin himself was our President.

What's that saying from Maya Angelou? When people show you who they are, believe them.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
31. So Trump "owning" The Open Up
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 02:09 PM
Oct 2020

Means Trump also owns wave 2 and wave 3 of Covid-19 and the excess deaths that has resulted from those waves.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
35. With his 10+ (?) demanding govt. jobs, how did he find time for interviews?
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 02:17 PM
Oct 2020

How many times did he adjust his "paperwork" for the clearance back in the day?






BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
36. Nice work, Jar-jar...you putz.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 02:17 PM
Oct 2020

First of all, if a surreptitious take-over of the republic is your goal, prolly best not to advertise it. Second, and tradecraft aside...this is not something to brag about.

I forget who said this, but it's as true as the day is long...or the night, which is closer to the mark these days:

"Donald, just because Jared Kushner is smarter than you, that doesn't make him smart."

Bullseye.

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
39. This won't get the dems any votes. The magats want him to strongarm everyone
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 02:23 PM
Oct 2020

It makes them feel better about themselves.

Lock him up.

(6,925 posts)
43. Just who do these mob$teR$ think they R??
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 02:30 PM
Oct 2020
Mass-murderers on a massive-killing spree for Putin and the Saudis?

progressoid

(49,978 posts)
44. In the grand scheme of things, this won't amount to much.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 02:32 PM
Oct 2020

It's sad. but considering all the shit in the Trump shit-show, this is kind of minor.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
51. Was it really a hostile takeover?
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 02:53 PM
Oct 2020

Sure he grabbed the Republican Party by the pussy, but he was a celebrity so they let him.

underpants

(182,769 posts)
52. 17 candidates. Trump didn't get a majority of votes in their primaries
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 02:55 PM
Oct 2020

He won the early ones with 20% of the vote if memory serves

OMGWTF

(3,951 posts)
54. There is no Republican party; it's the Trump Party now.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 03:02 PM
Oct 2020

They didn't even have a platform at their last convention other than "Whatever Trump said."

smb

(3,471 posts)
61. First They Just Recycled The 2016 Platform...
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 03:42 PM
Oct 2020

...complete with a plethora of unmodified "The present administration is (doing bad thing)" statements.

After people found out about that and pointed and laughed at them, they gave up having any platform at all other than fealty to il Doofus.

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