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Will Sommer
@willsommer
Sen. Ron Johnson is so angry about this obviously satirical tweet about him, he just read it at the Senate tech hearing. Johnson says he wants the tweet taken down "That could definitely affect my ability to get re-elected."
Mary T. Hagan
@marytherese5
Sen Ron Johnson is my neighbor and strangled our dog, Buttons, right in front of my 4 yr old son and 3 yr old daughter. The police refuse to investigate.This is a complete lie but important to retweet and note that there are more of my lies to come.
10:18 AM · Oct 28, 2020
brush
(61,033 posts)LizBeth
(11,222 posts)to tell lies about Hunter and Biden.
brush
(61,033 posts)tweet made up?
BComplex
(9,898 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(5,727 posts)After she was paid off in the middle of the tweet to deny what she was just typing at the beginning of the tweet. I mean that what's some people are saying. In fact, I just said it to my cat, and she nodded, so I guess she heard it too.
marble falls
(71,841 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(5,727 posts)This woman said Johnson strangled a dog in front of her children, then claimed the statement was a lie. So, people say, she was obviously paid off between the time she started the tweet and when she finished. After all, it is on the Internet, so it must be true. After all, "people say"...
Skittles
(171,564 posts)well played!
Ilsa
(64,325 posts)sucked down that second cup of cofeve and had difficulty untying the secondary, but relevant, strands of sarcasm regarding constructing one's own reality.
Miguelito Loveless
(5,727 posts)sarcasm becomes more difficult to discern on the Internet because the Internet has decided to allow crazy people computers.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)it is getting more difficult to separate Sacrasm from Reality these days.........Even the ONION is having problems coming up with stuff that could easily be reality with TRUMP INC......
Ligyron
(8,006 posts)At least that's what I do until I see something like NYT, WP etc. attached. Because there's a lot of crap floating around in the various media especially with this election.
I'm a big fan of sarcasm and ironic wit myself and can usual spot it right off. It's one of the only things that keep me halfway sane in this madness.
groundloop
(13,815 posts)It's all good (and will be a hell of a lot better when Joe's hand is on his bible Jan. 20th).
RVN VET71
(3,189 posts)I assigned Swift's brilliant "Modest Proposal". Class discussion was fascinating, especially for a smart little redhead named O'Brien who missed Swift's delicious irony completely and could hardly talk through her anger at this demonic, insane cannibal. She said she understood that the "Brits" had a history of disliking the Irish, but couldn't believe that such a proposal could have actually been sold in public.
A few in the class laughed at her anger and one took the pains to explain irony to her. She was somewhat mollified by the explanation but still thought Swift a monster for even thinking of such things.
And so it goes.
yardwork
(69,304 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(5,727 posts)in the choco.
yardwork
(69,304 posts)ResistantAmerican17
(4,188 posts)lonely bird
(2,925 posts)flying rabbit
(4,963 posts)jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)Can I buy a vowel?
Dawn?! That's EARLY! ....................it's early, right? Text me a wake-up, OK?
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,484 posts)I mean, we all know how important it is to always report it if some people are saying that some people are saying that some people are saying that...
And would be blatantly evil liberal bias to investigate the facts and report if any of it were true or false.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)probably was, since he has a well-known reputation as a dog strangler. That's what I've heard, anyway.
BComplex
(9,898 posts)It's been going on for generations.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)Cats know better than to trust Republicans.
634-5789
(4,670 posts)TheRealNorth
(9,647 posts)You see, a negative is really a double-negative in what QQ writes.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)It takes forever for him to leave a sporting goods store.
LizBeth
(11,222 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)We all know the repugs cheat and make up stuff all the time. I don't think our party should go there.
We can play hardball by staying united and standing our ground as Speaker Pelosi just demonstrated, but out-and-out lying and making stuff up?
Nah.
Everybody doesn't get the sarcasm and will believe it. It's a slippery slope.
LizBeth
(11,222 posts)put it out without even clarifying it is a lie. They are literally arguing to courts and media that they should be able to lie. Republican is now complaining putting it out will effect election. I mean, we are not going there. We are making an argument and Johnson enforced our argument.
stopdiggin
(15,410 posts)about staying on the "right" side of some solid lines ....
With both tweets clearly stating, "this is a lie" -- I think this is so obviously satire (and instructive and pointed humor at that) -- that I don't think it falls into any sort of category for deliberate falsehood or misinformation. In short -- I think you're kind of alone on this slippery slope. (even while I appreciate and endorse your larger premise)
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PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)Reading all three sentences shouldn't be a challenge.
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)Maeve
(43,455 posts)Reading is hard
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yardwork
(69,304 posts)brush
(61,033 posts)Last edited Wed Oct 28, 2020, 06:47 PM - Edit history (1)
this is just an individual tweet, announced as make believe, as opposed to how the repubican party as a whole actively engages in lies and deliberate make believe.
I just don't want us to get on that track where we leave off the "made up" part and it becomes a tactic that we are ok with.
yardwork
(69,304 posts)Often, those of us who identify as Democrats give up our power by taking on responsibility for others' behavior and even apologizing for them.
I've noticed that Republicans don't do this.
brush
(61,033 posts)party policy. Did you not read that?
yardwork
(69,304 posts)Who is "we?"
"I just don't want us to get on that track where we leave off the "made up" part and it becomes a tactic that we are ok with."
brush
(61,033 posts)That's how the repugs got to where they are. They've left off the "made up" part and just straight out lie.
I don't want our party to get to that point. It may never happen but it's my personal concern. We have been the party that for the most part doesn't lie and cheat.
yardwork
(69,304 posts)I prayed on it.
marble falls
(71,841 posts)others, well I hope they keep a fainting couch and smelling salts near.
Miguelito Loveless
(5,727 posts)that the Senator strangles childrens' dogs in front of them.
What's the problem?
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Stallion
(6,642 posts)MizLibby
(396 posts)Poiuyt
(18,272 posts)Johnson is too stupid to see the sarcasm
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)klook
(13,588 posts)Boogiemack
(1,406 posts)Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)characterized as the dumbest man in the Senate. Not surprised he didn't get it.
NonPC
(405 posts)You know it may have been Kevin Nunez's Cow overhearing RJ talking about strangling a neighbor's dog. We better investigate this!
underpants
(196,375 posts)Just saying.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)after having been handed over to the FBI. He's shopped it to Rachel Maddow and the New York Daily News.
malaise
(295,770 posts)madaboutharry
(42,032 posts)No. fucking. Self. Awareness.
NCjack
(10,297 posts)dogs.
I hope he is not reelected. I am not voting for him.
Wicked Blue
(8,850 posts)Total depravity
Silent3
(15,909 posts)...wasn't just part of a cover-up operation. Nothing less than a full investigation will do!
dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)You're KILLIN' me!
TheRealNorth
(9,647 posts)what is going on there? People are saying many things.
dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Greybnk48
(10,718 posts)It's really hilarious!
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)byronius
(7,971 posts)UpInArms
(54,920 posts)So that is probably why RJ is upset ... cuz if it was an ad that was lying, it would be up to the voters to decide if what it said meant anything
stillcool
(34,407 posts)their own work, when they see it. I guess the admission that it's a complete lie, makes it unrecognizable.
DFW
(60,144 posts)....that a sitting US senator would take this seriously enough to get publicly upset about it.
Nevilledog
(55,069 posts)OnDoutside
(20,868 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)Hats off and raise a glass for Buttons.
DFW
(60,144 posts)They read Breitbart.
Methinks the Senator doth protest too much.
Buns_of_Fire
(19,144 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)yardwork
(69,304 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)concern Johnson obtaining her children's laptops abandoned at a computer store 3,000 miles from the tweeter's home.
Standing back and standing by for updates.
BTW, what must it be like to be married to a moron like Johnson or to call this moron your father?
Wicked Blue
(8,850 posts)Stallion
(6,642 posts)may you reach the notoriety of Devin's Cow
RainCaster
(13,684 posts)PurgedVoter
(2,715 posts)Someone stop Ron Johnson before he does it again!
People who abuse pets often become mass murderers. Ron Johnson needs to be stopped. Sure, he tries to say this was all a lie, but what about Buttons? Poor Buttons. I understand that Ron Johnson isn't a real person and he is all made up, but that doesn't justify his being a mass murderer. Lots of Republicans are not real people. Look at Ted Cruiz. His name is Rafael he was born in Canada and he calls himself a Texan. Does Ted Cruz kill imaginary pets with the same joy that Ron Johnson does? Probably. These people start imagining things and then it gets real. They need to be stopped.
yardwork
(69,304 posts)It's right there.
Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)See also, Hustler Magazine v. Falwell, 485 U.S. 46
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/485/46
Respondent, a nationally known minister and commentator on politics and public affairs, filed a diversity action in Federal District Court against petitioners, a nationally circulated magazine and its publisher, to recover damages for, inter alia, libel and intentional infliction of emotional distress arising from the publication of an advertisement "parody" which, among other things, portrayed respondent as having engaged in a drunken incestuous rendezvous with his mother in an outhouse. The jury found against respondent on the libel claim, specifically finding that the parody could not "reasonably be understood as describing actual facts . . . or events," but ruled in his favor on the emotional distress claim, stating that he should be awarded compensatory and punitive damages. The Court of Appeals affirmed, rejecting petitioners' contention that the "actual malice" standard of New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 84 S.Ct. 710, 11 L.Ed.2d 686 must be met before respondent can recover for emotional distress. Rejecting as irrelevant the contention that, because the jury found that the parody did not describe actual facts, the ad was an opinion protected by the First Amendment to the Federal Constitution, the court ruled that the issue was whether the ad's publication was sufficiently outrageous to constitute intentional infliction of emotional distress.
Held: In order to protect the free flow of ideas and opinions on matters of public interest and concern, the First and Fourteenth Amendments prohibit public figures and public officials from recovering damages for the tort of intentional infliction of emotional distress by reason of the publication of a caricature such as the ad parody at issue without showing in addition that the publication contains a false statement of fact which was made with "actual malice," i.e., with knowledge that the statement was false or with reckless disregard as to whether or not it was true. The State's interest in protecting public figures from emotional distress is not sufficient to deny First Amendment protection to speech that is patently offensive and is intended to inflict emotional injury when that speech could not reasonably have been interpreted as stating actual facts about the public figure involved. Here, respondent is clearly a "public figure" for First Amendment purposes, and the lower courts' finding that the ad parody was not reasonably believable must be accepted. "Outrageousness" in the area of political and social discourse has an inherent subjectiveness about it which would allow a jury to impose liability on the basis of the jurors' tastes or views, or perhaps on the basis of their dislike of a particular expression, and cannot, consistently with the First Amendment, form a basis for the award of damages for conduct such as that involved here. Pp. 50-57.
797 F.2d 1270 (CA4 1986), reversed.
(Bold added).
marble falls
(71,841 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Justice for Buttons!
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)His sister is also a thespian. And Johnson is a known homo sapien.
Let the rural Wisconsin voters know all of it. (And watch him deny the homo sapien bit.)
PurgedVoter
(2,715 posts)He has been know to masticate in public.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(12,047 posts)think this isn't a really good comparison to much of what is done by the Reich I'm not sure you've been paying much attention these past 20 years.
yardwork
(69,304 posts)The Republicans don't admit that their lying ads are lies. And when called on their lies and video manipulations, they say let the people decide.
Except the very last thing a Republican wants is for people to make informed decisions.
Darkstar53142
(79 posts)...and he embarrasses the state.
CountAllVotes
(22,207 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)From another embarrassed Wisconsinite!
Darkstar53142
(79 posts)Talitha
(7,951 posts)dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)Some serious wit on DU. I for real snorted, I was laughing so hard. Gawd, I love this place!
Biophilic
(6,535 posts)I have been sitting here, reading this thread, slowly going from "oh, not good" to "Too funny, oh my god, too funny" and I'm laughing so hard I'm having trouble writing this post. Well, played throughout. Bravo! All of you. Bravo!
andym
(6,064 posts)no matter the veracity. Otherwise he would hold trump to task.
Mr. Ected
(9,714 posts)I'd hate to be Putin this position if I was him.
Wawannabe
(6,890 posts)Berry punny!
LunaSea
(2,934 posts)T shirt in 3, 2, 1...
dchill
(42,660 posts)Ron Johnson is the guy who walked right into the fire he started.
TrevEB
(18 posts)and he is all butt hurt about being accused of strangling a dog?
Oh LincolnProject, could we please have a Ron Johnson strangles dogs billboard?
We need to make this stick to him like more cowbell.
Ron and Mitt should go on a road trip together.
TheRealNorth
(9,647 posts)I haven't checked Twitter yet.
H2O Man
(79,009 posts)Hilarious!
Stallion
(6,642 posts)Blue Owl
(59,006 posts)voteearlyvoteoften
(1,716 posts)They might be true, time for an investigation. Cant have a senator whose spawn is a demon cat kicker.
Nitram
(27,658 posts)they keep insisting Muslims should come out against terrorist attacks by Muslims.muslims actually do, but it's rare for a Republican to do so.
BobTheSubgenius
(12,212 posts)if that's true, he has a plurality of imbeciles supporting him.