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Interesting Politico article. Also, if Trump were to leave the U.S., given how vindictive he is, what is to keep him from pulling an Eric Snowden and fleeing to Russia to attack the U.S. from abroad as a "president in exile" and claim that the election was stolen from him while inciting right wingers in order to create civil unrest?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/is-president-donald-trump-a-flight-risk/ar-BB1au69W?li=BBnbcA1
Was the statement merely a sour-grapes throwaway line by a cantankerous candidate facing potential defeat? Or was it a signal that Trump might actually abandonsome would say fleeour shores and seek refuge elsewhere if he is routed by a Joe Biden victory?
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While it is rare among leaders of developed democracies, during the past 50 years weve seen a number of high-profile flights by national leaders facing major legal, political or societal problems at home, These include Bolivian president Evo Morales, who fled to Mexico just last year; Ukraines Viktor Yanukovych, who fled to Russia in 2014 and Ferdinand Marcos from the Philippines in 1986. All three fled in the wake of contentious elections, either after being ousted by voters or toppled by sustained protests. At the moment nothing suggests that Trump faces the unlikely prospect of being chased out of the country. But its no stretch to point out the parallel, either: They were all unorthodox strongman leaders who abused their offices, and simply didnt see a way to stay comfortably in their countries once theyd lost power.
In the U.S., Trump might be familiar with some of the high-rolling financial fraudsters who decamped from the U.S. as the law was closing in. Among the most notorious was Robert Vesco, who successfully evaded justice by fleeing in a corporate jet in 1973 and remained out of reach until his death decades later. Less fortunate were Richard Allen Stanford, 2009, and Martin Frankel, 1999. Both tried to escape the U.S. by leasing private jets. Stanford was captured before he could finalize arrangements; Frankel made it as far as Germany but was later extradited back to the U.S. for a long jail term.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,029 posts)I doubt we will be so lucky.
panader0
(25,816 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,029 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,029 posts)look for Epic Tomatoes there
leftieNanner
(15,187 posts)How would he get away from the Secret Service?
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,375 posts)As long as we don't have to send Secret Service with him.
RobertDevereaux
(1,858 posts). . . have him declared a flight risk WHILE hes in flight?
If you know what I mean.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,375 posts)Pilot: You Trumps better behave yourselves or I'll turn this plane right around!
Celerity
(43,658 posts)lock him up, try him, and either life in a supermax, or, if need be, execute him as traitor and mass murderer
I would think that the US would have learned by now (after the bullshit live and let live kissy kissy rot after the US Civil War) that sometimes a monstrous ex leader simply must die (or at least be locked in a hole for life)
Europe knows this, and Europe is far more advanced on a humanity scale NOW than the US is. Partially because we did just that on some bad motherfuckers.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)Other than North Korea...
Towlie
(5,331 posts)Trump has a lot of valuable knowledge that he could use as a bargaining chip, perhaps to settle debts.
So yes, he's a flight risk and I do mean risk. It'll be in the best interest of our nation's national security to keep him locked up.
tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)he doesn't listen, he can't read. He has no value to anyone.
Silent3
(15,423 posts)...to Putin, and plenty of detailed documents that wouldn't rely on Trump's feeble brain and attention span.
The best we can do now (and I'm sure Biden has already figured this out) is change all of our security codes and plans to be as different from anything Trump has already leaked as possible.
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)Also, given how invested Republicans have been in the idea of voter fraud, how do they disavow Trump claiming that he should have won, but for hundreds of millions of illegal votes cast by mail. If Trump loses and a hostile foreign country was willing to host him, Trump could continue rely on Republican talking points to attack the legitimacy of the election, criticize Democrats, and incite civil unrest.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-supporters-more-confident-in-election-victory-than-biden-supporters-polling-suggests/ar-BB1au71N?li=BBnb7Kz
Current polling points to former Vice President Joe Biden becoming the next president of the United States. However, his supporters and Democrats aren't as confident in their candidate as President Donald Trump and his supporters are in theirs.
Going into the final week of the election, Biden has about an 8 percentage-point lead over Trump, according to a RealClearPolitics average. The gap poses a problem for the president winning the Electoral College, according to experts, But Trump is far from giving up and has a busy rally schedule in the days until November 3. Trump's supporters are still waiting in line for hours to secure a spot for one of his rallies, and polls show they're confident he'll pull out an election victory.
Two YouGov pollsone that was done for The Economist and one for Yahoo!both found 87 percent of Trump's supporters believe he'll win reelection.
Republicansnot just necessarily Trump supportersare also more confident in Trump to win than Democrats' faith in Biden. Eighty-three percent of Republicans put their figurative money on Trump, according to an Emerson College poll released on Wednesday, and 73 percent thought Biden would win. Independents sided with Trump by a slim margin of three percentage points.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)shortly after his inauguration. I think this was right after Dump fired Comey.
That was the only time I ever saw Dump with an authentic smile on his face, when he let the Russians in the White House. Fucking traitor.
Silent3
(15,423 posts)Grins
(7,247 posts)It would be the great proof to 62-million Americans they voted for a traitor!
It would lay the groundwork for the immediate overturning EVERY court appointment and executive order he made since Jan. 2017, and be the highway to prison for decades for those that helped him do it (Flynn, Bannon, Lewandowski, Gorka, Parscale, Giuliani, Miller, and pick-a-name.)
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)spy and sitting with Trump as he requests literally all the classified information that Putin could ever care to receive. Right now, short of Pence 25thing him, there is nothing that would stop that eventuality. Trump doesn't know what to ask for, but a skilled spy just might.
Hekate
(90,941 posts)Earthshine2
(4,044 posts)what little Trump actually knows about the US gov't and military.
He won't be able to host superspreader events that for north.
WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)Donald J. tRUMP becomes violent and attacks those around him, because he lost the election and has to be restrained by Secret Service. Will his family be around him to console him over his loss or will they bail knowing that he will become very violent, leaving his ass kissers to take the beatings?
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,858 posts)... to trade to Putin for asylum.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Nixon, Reagan, Senior Bush, Junior Bush...
Shall we do it one more time, and hope they've "learned their lesson?"
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)To just say that Trump is no different from Nixon, Reagan, Senior Bush, Junior Bush, etc., is pretty wild. I don't recall any of those folks inciting militias, cheering on domestic terrorists, calling for election interference by hostile powers, etc.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)None of those pigs were "normal" in my opinion, but I don't disagree with you that Trump is in a league by himself (or maybe with the devil).
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)... a similar level of anxiety where the President could call for the arrest of his political opponents or refuse a peaceful transfer of power and that Republicans might go along with it if not cheer him on.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)He was the beginning of the GOP crime wave; we had never seen anything like that before.
MFM008
(19,827 posts)...................
OAITW r.2.0
(24,723 posts)I suspect that there will be more than a few taking sudden extended vacations to countries without extradition treaties with the US.
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)...offers to host him as a wannabe President In Exile who can rifle things up from afar.