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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 06:52 PM Oct 2020

New Windows 10 update permanently removes Adobe Flash

In September, Microsoft confirmed it was ending support for Adobe Flash Player on its Chromium-based Edge and legacy Edge browsers as well as Internet Explorer 11 at the end of 2020. But the company also detailed future enterprise support options for customers that need to retain Flash for line-of-business applications.

"Microsoft Edge will allow Adobe Flash Player to load as a plug-in via the Internet Explorer mode feature. Inherently, Internet Explorer 11 will also allow this. Once you make the switch from Microsoft provided Adobe Flash Player, it will be treated as any other third-party plug-in and will not receive Customer Support from Microsoft," Microsoft said at the time.

In the past, Microsoft has worked with Adobe to deliver Flash updates for the browser plug-in in order to ensure end users were protected from exploits and malware targeting Flash Player security flaws. This new update removes Flash Player from Windows devices and cannot be uninstalled, Microsoft says in a new support note.

Microsoft has also detailed two methods that users and admins can follow to continue using Flash Player after the update is installed. Users can reset a device to an earlier system restore point. However, users need to explicitly enable this feature and a system restore point must have been created on the Windows device before the update is applied. The other option is to reinstall Windows without applying the update.

https://www.zdnet.com/google-amp/article/microsoft-did-some-research-now-its-angry-about-what-it-found/

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New Windows 10 update permanently removes Adobe Flash (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Oct 2020 OP
Is Flash still used on many websites? Just_Vote_Dem Oct 2020 #1
I do not know left-of-center2012 Oct 2020 #2
Gotcha Just_Vote_Dem Oct 2020 #3
Without flash many websites and pictures won't load. Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #4
Ugh. And it's not going to be updated. Just_Vote_Dem Oct 2020 #5
I don't have it installed and never have an issue FreeState Oct 2020 #6
I use Chrome so we shall see. I don't understand the war on Flash...if you are careful it is not a Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #16
National Weather Service uses Flash for animation when you "loop" the radar display Klaralven Oct 2020 #7
My daughter said the Medicaid site uses it. nt woodsprite Oct 2020 #10
My laptop keeps undoing Windows updates that are downloaded. marmar Oct 2020 #8
Isn't flash going away in Dec? grantcart Oct 2020 #9
Did you read the first sentence of the post? left-of-center2012 Oct 2020 #11
Yes what I was asking was different. I use a site that requires flash grantcart Oct 2020 #12
So you are asking ... left-of-center2012 Oct 2020 #13
How does this affect Free Republic Elwood P Dowd Oct 2020 #14
Windows 10 Updates also do some nasty things to your computer. Totally Tunsie Oct 2020 #15
The last update made it so my computer would not load windows...used Linux to fix it... Demsrule86 Oct 2020 #17
I didn't even know Flash was still a thing. Initech Oct 2020 #18
Flash goes away at the end of the year The Revolution Oct 2020 #19

Just_Vote_Dem

(2,802 posts)
1. Is Flash still used on many websites?
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 06:59 PM
Oct 2020

Is it dangerous to run on my computer if I'm not using it on the internet, without an update?

FreeState

(10,570 posts)
6. I don't have it installed and never have an issue
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 07:27 PM
Oct 2020

It's mostly old websites that have not been updated in the last 5 years. Very few modern sites us it (like less than 1%).

https://www.chromium.org/flash-roadmap/flash-usage-trends

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
16. I use Chrome so we shall see. I don't understand the war on Flash...if you are careful it is not a
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:54 PM
Oct 2020

threat.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
7. National Weather Service uses Flash for animation when you "loop" the radar display
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 07:45 PM
Oct 2020

See https://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=DIX&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes for example.

I have Flash disabled per the default on some Chrome browsers, and "ask first" on other machines.

Having Flash disabled is probably more of a problem for organizations which used it for some application on their intranet.

marmar

(77,072 posts)
8. My laptop keeps undoing Windows updates that are downloaded.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 07:47 PM
Oct 2020

.... and I know there's a regimen for getting it to stop but maybe I don't want to now.


left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
11. Did you read the first sentence of the post?
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 08:06 PM
Oct 2020

“In September, Microsoft confirmed it was ending support for Adobe Flash Player on its Chromium-based Edge and legacy Edge browsers as well as Internet Explorer 11 at the end of 2020.”

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
12. Yes what I was asking was different. I use a site that requires flash
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 08:13 PM
Oct 2020

But stated that in Dec it was being disabled, not that Microsoft was ending support.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
15. Windows 10 Updates also do some nasty things to your computer.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 09:12 PM
Oct 2020

I did an Update on 10/14. Since that date, I have been on the phone with Dell India every f*n day and night, often for 10 hours at a time, trying to get my computer operating as it did before the update. I've talked to/worked with at least 17 technicians. I've uninstalled and re-installed Windows virtually every day. Ready to go over the edge much?

I thought we were finally done until I booted up today. Seems to start up quickly enough, everything seems to be where it should be, but what new hell is the 2" wide vertical discolored stripe about 1.5 inches from the right edge of my screen? What a PITA.

I just can't do it tonight. I need to have a night I'm not attached to my phone, watching buffering circles or incremental rising of completion percentages. I need to speak tonight with people who speak English as their first language. Maybe I need to just get off this computer...

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
17. The last update made it so my computer would not load windows...used Linux to fix it...
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:57 PM
Oct 2020

you can't stop updates now but I have it so they have to ask. Thus I can take precautions. I have reversed problematic updates.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
18. I didn't even know Flash was still a thing.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:09 PM
Oct 2020

I would have thought most web development has switched over to HTML 5/6 by now.

The Revolution

(765 posts)
19. Flash goes away at the end of the year
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:17 PM
Oct 2020

Flash is going away at the end of the year anyway. Even if you still have the plugin, it won't function after the end of the year (this EOL is coded into the plugin itself). You'd have to change your system time to some point in the past...which just tends to cause other problems

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