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marmar

(77,042 posts)
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 08:01 PM Oct 2020

What happens when a narcissist loses?


What happens when a narcissist loses? Expect "rage" and "terror," psychologists warn
"A truly significant loss… may trigger not only a reign of terror but destruction without limit," one expert says

MATTHEW ROZSA
OCTOBER 28, 2020 11:00PM


(Salon) There is agreement among psychologists — and, for that matter, anyone who has been abused by narcissistic personalities — that President Donald Trump fits the psychological profile of a narcissist. What does that mean for the upcoming election, particularly if Trump loses, as polls suggest? Psychologists tell Salon that pathological narcissists who do not get their way tend to react abusively — which could lead to one of several devastating political scenarios for the nation in the election's aftermath.

"One does not have to diagnose to recognize pathological or toxic narcissism," Dr. Bandy X. Lee, a psychiatrist who has taught at Yale and authored the new book "Profile of a Nation: Trump's Mind, America's Soul," told Salon by email. "This is behavior, not a diagnosis — and the media need not fixate so much on 'the Goldwater rule,' which applies to only 6% of practicing mental health professionals (that is, members of the American Psychiatric Association, the only association in the world with this rule)."

The so-called Goldwater Rule holds that "it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement." However, the rule does not apply to describing obvious narcissistic behavior in a public figure, any more than it would disqualify someone from describing celebrities who spend most of their days drinking liquor as having an alcohol problem.

"Those with pathological narcissism are abusive and dangerous because of their catastrophic neediness," Lee explained. "Think of a drowning person gasping for air: a survival instinct just may push you down in order to save one's own life. In the manner that the body needs oxygen, the soul needs love, and self-love is what a toxic narcissist is desperately lacking. This is why he must overcompensate, creating for himself a self-image where he is the best at everything, never wrong, better than all the experts, and a 'stable genius.'" .........(more)

https://www.salon.com/2020/10/28/trump-narcissism-psychology-election-loss-pathology-personality-disorders/






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What happens when a narcissist loses? (Original Post) marmar Oct 2020 OP
He'll construct a fantasy where he has not lost. C_U_L8R Oct 2020 #1
I'm sensing Joe et al has already gamed this out dixiegrrrrl Oct 2020 #5
Agreed. marmar Oct 2020 #9
It will be a very bumpy ride between November 3rd Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #2
Doubt there will be cooperation with Biden's transition team BadgerKid Oct 2020 #6
I would not expect there to be any Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #7
An advantage of Joe Biden. He's been there... Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #8
We'll find out next Tuesday lame54 Oct 2020 #3
This reminds me of... Newest Reality Oct 2020 #4
K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2020 #10

C_U_L8R

(44,972 posts)
1. He'll construct a fantasy where he has not lost.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 08:06 PM
Oct 2020

And drag along as many idiots as he can for validation

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
5. I'm sensing Joe et al has already gamed this out
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 08:53 PM
Oct 2020

Constitution sez the pres. term ends Jan. 20. That's when the lights get turned off, the Sec. Ser. Pres. detail walks away, the nuclear codes are changed. the phones get turned off if need be.
There's a whole invisible to the public system that keeps the WH/Gov. working, and there are a lot of
dedicated people who are not gonna support his insanity. That's actually the blessing of having Joe and,
let's admit it, Obama, at the helm in case of any trump tantrums.

Wounded Bear

(58,571 posts)
8. An advantage of Joe Biden. He's been there...
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 09:36 PM
Oct 2020

if there is anybody who doesn't need an in depth orientation, it is Joe. I assume he'll bring along a lot of people that have been there before and know what they're doing. They'll manage.

True, I expect no cooperation from the Trump crowd. Hell, they were sore winners. We can't expect them to take a loss well.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
4. This reminds me of...
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 08:14 PM
Oct 2020

Being John Malkovich, only a dark and toxic version.

In other words, Trump will not even be fulfilled if he goes into his own head and sees nothing but trumps talking trump. "Trump? Trump trump trump trump! Trump trump."

Or like Agent Smith in The Matrix just replicating himself.

Oh, and nuclear codes.

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