At Trump rally in Phoenix area, I was told by a supporter of the president to "get the hell out of..

[Nevilledog]

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Jim Acosta
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At Trump rally in Phoenix area, I was told by a supporter of the president to “get the hell out of our country.” Tell that to my grandfather who is buried at Arlington and my dad who fled to the US as a refugee from Cuba.
5:12 PM · Oct 28, 2020

[madaboutharry]

1. The hate is destroying us.

What is wrong with people?

[TwilightZone]

2. It's always been there.

Trump just gave it a voice and gave them permission to become more overt. Social media gave them a platform and the world's largest amplifier.

[Evolve Dammit]

9. truth. And MSM couldn't get enough of him.

[TwilightZone]

11. Yep, loads of free advertising.

This time, hardly any and the campaign is broke. Surprise, surprise.

[Sherman A1]

46. Yup

He played them like a fiddle

[Evolve Dammit]

53. He sure did. He's been a master of media control and now working on total governmental control.

He will do it all if he gets four more years.

[iluvtennis]

35. ++++ agree. nt

[olegramps]

47. Yes, I agree, but is especially one side from Hate Radio.

It has totally blinded them to the reality of the situation. I is beyond my ability to comprehend that they would not grasp the fact that some of them are being led to the death and many will become ill with unknown long lasting complications. It is pure insanity.

[SammyWinstonJack]

48. Short answer, tRump.

[Karadeniz]

3. There is a rule of the universe, attraction. Trump demonstrates meanness constantly, so that's what

Is attracted to him.

[handmade34]

4. "our Country"?

who the hell are these people??

[Wednesdays]

7. They'll be yelling that at Native Americans next.

If they haven't already.

[Boogiemack]

8. They did that already. There is a video. nt

[wnylib]

21. Best answer to that from Native Americans

is, "Get out of my land, illegal immigrants. "

[Ahpook]

24. Yes, and then

Well, they lost! It happens.

Their mind is toast! Blind, stupid hate.

[wnylib]

27. Might makes right mentality.

But they lost the attempt to totally wipe out Native people and cultures, who are still here, despite diseases, land losses, abusive boarding schools and laws banning Native languages, cultures, and religions.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

5. It's always "their country" in their warped minds.

There was a racist maintenance man who said that to an African American coworker years ago, and I chimed in with, "His ancestors have been here longer than yours, Irish boy!" (He'd previously mentioned his Irish ancestors to me.)

I don't always think well on my feet, and length of ancestry wasn't a good argument by me, but it indeed turned his face red and he shut up.

[TwilightZone]

13. I used to argue with my father about "immigrants"

He'd assume that any Latinx he saw had just arrived from Mexico. He shut up after I noted that those families had been in that particular neighborhood longer than my grandparents (his parents) had been in the US.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

15. It's silly to make such arguments, of course.

I was angry and it just came out, and surprisingly worked on the guy.

He hated me after that, so that made it mutual. Lol.

[TwilightZone]

18. Our relationship was kind of unusual.

I didn't have much contact with him for about 20 years and this was shortly after we, for lack of a better word, reunited in my mid 20s. He was a hardcore, Rush Limbaugh conservative and because we didn't have a normal, ongoing relationship, I felt like I could pretty freely question his worldview. Which I did. Often.

It apparently had some impact because after Bush v. Gore, he saw the light and realized that all of his right-wing sources and buddies were feeding him crap and he became a pretty solid liberal. So, that's one. haha

[Illumination]

22. That's a happy ending. Great to hear!

[Buckeye_Democrat]

23. Good work!

Your story reminds me of an interesting documentary from a few years ago called "The Brainwashing of My Dad". That father finally came around too.

That particular maintenance guy seemed too far gone for that. Since he wasn't "on the clock" like most of us, he'd arrive to the break room early for lunch break to switch the TV to Faux News.

Someone else beat him to the punch one day and refused to change the channel, and I watched him from a distant table as his body starting shaking like he was going through withdrawals. Then he loudly announced that he'd eat in his car and listen to Limbaugh instead. Good for you, loud-mouth!

[Illumination]

17. Would imagine your dad had nothing to say after you brought that fact up! I had a step father

just like that. He made my life hell & I finally moved away to Colorado. So I understand what you had to listen to & live with...

[TwilightZone]

20. We didn't have an ongoing relationship, which was probably for the best.

Here's the story (easier than typing it again!)

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=14383076

[Lonestarblue]

51. Many people seem to be ignorant of the fact that the US bought territory from Mexico in the 1840s.

And guess what—many of the people who lived there were of Hispanic descent and they became US citizens with the purchase, which included Texas, New Mexico, much of California, and what is now several other states. I’m really fed up with the white privilege exhibited by Trump supporters and their sheer ignorance of the history of many ethnicities in this country.

[Maru Kitteh]

42. For them "our country" is a substitute phrase for "white people" so you

were very right to make that argument. When you call them out, they usually fold.

[bamagal62]

6. Yes, the amount of pure hatred

and ugliness is worrisome. I guess it must be a lack of self worth and self esteem. It makes them feel more powerful or important. It’s sad, really.

[seta1950]

10. I wonder

Where did these people’s families come from, native Americans could tell all of us to get the hell out of their country.

[George II]

12. They all suck.

[Willto]

14. Disgusting

These are the kind of people who go to these rallies. And yet we had people on here trying to chastise people like myself for not feeling compassion for the ones who were stranded in the chilly weather in Omaha the other night.

[catbyte]

29. What thread was that? I don't recall anybody chastising anybody for calling out those

dumbasses in Omaha.

[58Sunliner]

34. It was a real thread. I don't want to link to it.

I know the poster had good intentions. They were upset that some people had no sympathy and were indifferent to the plight of those at risk. Some of us are just too burnt out to care.

[Voltaire2]

40. The intention was a virtue signaling scold.

Nothing good about that.

[58Sunliner]

41. It was a well known poster who I respect.

I think they objected to the ridicule. TBF what else is left for a shit show.

[Cha]

16. Rt for Jim Acosta!

[halfulglas]

19. The angrh but smug children of previous generation of immigrants

When confronted about their anger and resentment to immigrants many progeny of previous generations of immigrants say, "Yeah, but my grandfather (grandmother, great, etc.) came here the right way. They didn't break the law." I have almost given up answering that there was very little immigration law at the time. This country wanted the bodies, the workers. Immigration at the time only required you usually had to be white and healthy. Whatever wave of immigrants came depended on which country on mostly the European continent or British Isles was having the most trouble that the lower classes yearned to come here and start new. Right now our immigration laws are a nightmare and the citizenship process is very expensive. But they are a blessing to this country. Immigrants work harder than any segment of American society. We really have to get this fixed.

[wnylib]

26. True that when the country wanted cheap

labor for the Industrial Revolution, the immigration laws were not as strict as today. There was some vetting in an attempt to keep criminals out, and some screening for infectious diseases. Ellis Island included clinics for those who could be treated and expected to recover.

But most RW fools automatically equate immigration with "illegal." I mentioned to one guy that my great-grandparents were political refugees from the German Empire. He asked if they were illegal. I pointed out that it was not the issue in 1888 that it is today. So he latched onto the German part and asked if they were Nazis escaping defeat and prosecution. I told him there was no such thing as Nazis until about 40 to 50 years AFTER my great-grandparents reached the US. The ignorance of time periods and history among these yo-yos is astounding.

[halfulglas]

43. So many RW are undereducated or miseducated.

Their knowledge of history and geography is often appalling manifested by their questions. Some of the equation of immigration with "illegals" is reinforced by the crap from the Stephen Miller faction of Trump team. Take my paternal grandparents, Polish immigrants. They were uneducated by today's standards but spoke English without accent and read the newspaper front to back every day. They were aware of everything going on. Unfortunately they never taught me to speak Polish because they kept that to speak in front of us when they didn't want us to know something. My German grandfather would certainly be considered illegal by today's standards if some of the rumors in the family are true - that he was working on a ship and jumped ship when it hit port. This was all in the late 1800's but if you lived here for I think 5 years you could apply for citizenship. But this is one of the big stories for me of America. Not people proud of descending from Pilgrims or whatever, but the family stories of living in ethnic neighborhoods and why they moved to someplace else because that's where the work was so you could make enough to raise your family.

[wnylib]

50. My family has both kinds of stories.

But I agree that it's the stories that are more interesting than how long ago they came or whether they had titles.

On one side were the political refugees from the German Empire. It's fascinating (to me, anyway) why and how they escaped. The very condensed version is that g-grandpa, who was a military officer, took a stand for democratic reforms under a kaiser who promoted those reforms because he (the kaiser) had a British wife. That kaiser died and his son totally opposed reforms. Charged his father's supporters with treason.

G-grandpa's friends warned him, got him false documents for a family vacation, and g-grandpa went to Sweden with his pregnant wife and their 3 toddler children. From Sweden to Britain, then to the US, where my grandfather was born 2 weeks after their arrival. (Anchor baby - LOL)

On the other side of the family there were colonial Puritans, but not from the Mayflower. I found some stories about them, too, like the one called "the Old Indian Fighter" in the French and Indian Wars, whose ggg-granddaughter married a Native American.

[TxVietVet]

25. Conservanazis have been declaring that they are

“Real” Americans. Druggie limp balls has convinced many conservanazis of that. Nothing has ever pissed me off more than some draft-dodging conservanazi telling me I’m not an American because I don’t support the rethuglican Party.

F*ck the rat bastards.

[Rice4VP]

28. They are all a bunch of racist scumbags

[gab13by13]

30. Pa. will never be counted by election day,

I voted by mail in October and my ballot has been at the election office for 2 weeks, but;

Pa. isn't allowed to count mail in ballots early, not only that it isn't even allowed to sort the ballots to get them ready to be counted.

We need to be prepared for rat fuckery in Pa.

[hadEnuf]

31. It seems the only people causing trouble are Trump's MAGATs.

They are the unAmerican scum that need to get the hell out.

[Sierra89]

32. Morons who know nothing of history

Especially in the Southwest. Some of our families have been here for 5-6 generations. Arizona was not admitted into the Union until 1912. I get so sick of hearing the racist comments people have to endure. My father is a Vietnam Veteran. Most of the men in my family served in the military. My grandfather was a paratrooper in WWII, as were many young men from Arizona. He went into the Merchant Marines after that, and stayed in until 1952. Yet he still had to deal with ignorant shits from time to time.

I know it's not going to stop, and is likely to get worse if Biden is elected. I just wish people were more aware before engaging their mouth.

[sandensea]

33. Too many vowels in his last name

I've never met a Republican who's comfortable with that.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

36. Oh, dear lord.

I am the granddaughter of Irish immigrants, in that all four of my grandparents came here from Ireland, at the end of the 19th or beginning of the 20th century. The huge advantage they had over most immigrants was that they got here already speaking English. they did face the standard prejudice against immigrants.

Two stories. The first is that when I was a little girl, all of the elderly aunts would look at me and say (and please imagine some sort of Irish brogue/accent here) "Ahh, she has the map of Ireland on her face!" Because I grew up in this country, and even if we are only talking people descended from European immigrants, there's still a lot of diversity. Add in everyone else, and Woah!

My first trip to Ireland I was astonished. Every single person I saw looked EXACTLY like my brothers and my sisters and my cousins. I cherish my background, as should you cherish yours.


Second story. A while back, I was in the checkout line at a grocery store. The woman doing the bagging, whom I'd seen often, was clearly a Russian immigrant. I could recognize her accent. The man ahead of me addressed her by name, and then said, "I understand you've just become a citizen. Congratulations! We need more people like you here." Wow. I was blown away by that sentiment and have never forgotten it. Every so often I meet a new citizen. A man I worked with at the local hospital. The neighbor across the street. I need always to remember to say: We need more people like you here.

[NoMoreRepugs]

37. A testament to the power of HateRadio and FauxSnooze ...

repeat “Fake media - other than us” 10,000 times in 4 years and the Maroons now believe it as gospel.

[Blue Owl]

38. K&R

[radius777]

39. This is the problem with the deplorables. For some bizarre reason

they think they 'own' the country and can control who comes and goes. The irony is they tend to be a relatively useless group of people, who resent that they no longer are centered in American society. Most of the economic production, innovation, creativity etc come mainly from the blue cities and towns across the country. Someone like Acosta - who is intelligent and accomplished - is more 'valuable' to the country than they'll ever be.

[BobTheSubgenius]

44. I realize this story is about immigration, but it brings up another, similar, issue.

In the instances where it's a liberal-regressive paradigm, why is that liberals are the ones that are supposed to move out? The regressives could have things pretty much their own way, if they were to go to, say, Liberia. "Liberty" is almost the name of the place. Surely they'd like that.

[IronLionZion]

45. Racists always act like this is their country

and that anyone who doesn't agree when them isn't welcome here. It's the same idiotic thinking that leads to memes like "Lock the door to your house not because you hate the people outside, but because you love the people inside" as if America is a house. It would be easier for racists to leave, but where would they go and who would want them?

[geretogo]

49. The pure hate coming from the White House and his followers is destroying this country . I know it's

effecting me mentally and physically . I can't take another 4 years of this evil monster .

[liberal N proud]

52. The hate that trump has sown is a cancer in our society

If not treated, it will destroy us