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Nevilledog

(50,986 posts)
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 11:10 PM Oct 2020

A GOP whistleblower says Rove told her vote tallies can be changed w/o undue suspicion...



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🔥Alabama! Scoundrel Karl Rove has long-standing Alabama ties. We must try to detect anything “anomalous” in @DougJones’s re-election race. Pls sign up w/ PhotoFinish at http://ProtectOurVotes.com to photograph precinct totals > polls close. We will compare 2 official totals. TY! 1/

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Voters! A GOP whistleblower says Rove told her vote tallies can be changed w/o undue suspicion “so long as the preferred candidate is w/in 3% points of the targeted candidate in the final polls...’” Pls help photograph precinct totals > polls close 2 compare 2 official totals. 1/
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Voters! A GOP whistleblower says Rove told her vote tallies can be changed w/o undue suspicion “so long as the preferred candidate is w/in 3% points of the targeted candidate in the final polls...’” Pls help photograph precinct totals > polls close 2 compare 2 official totals. 1/
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2/ Link for post 1:

Rove Vote-Switching 'Empire' Alleged to Threaten Nov. 6 Results
A well-funded alliance of Rove-linked Republican companies with ties also to the Bush and Romney families is poised to repeat previous successes in decisive election-machine vote manipulation on Nov. …
https://www.justice-integrity.org/40-rove-vote-switching-empire-alleged-to-threaten-nov-6-results

3/ Link to sign up with #PhotoFinish to photograph precinct results as shown on poll tapes (usually posted outside precincts >polls close). Volunteers receive email instructions from us & can join our slack groups 2 discuss questions further. @ProtectVotes

Volunteer for Photo Finish
If you have problems seeing our form, write to us at: info@protectourvotes.com
https://www.protectourvotes.com/photo-finish-volunteer-sign-up-form/

4/ This is what poll tapes look like. They are usually posted outside precincts after polls close in election night, but we ask our volunteers to call first to confirm. Again, instructions will be provided & volunteers can join our slack discussion groups to discuss further.
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5/ Right now we at @ProtectVotes have about 400 photographers across the country (shown on the map below). But in most places we have only a few precincts covered. We hope to have at least a thousand photographers by Election Day. Pls help if u can. #PhotoFinish #ProtectOurVotes
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6/ Photographer volunteers take digital photos of the poll tapes and upload them to our website as explained in the 50 second video. Done!

7/ @ProtectVotes and our analyst volunteers will then compare the precinct totals (poll tapes) against the reported totals for those precincts. They shld match. If they don’t, it may imply a problem w/ the county tabulator, warranting investigation.
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A GOP whistleblower says Rove told her vote tallies can be changed w/o undue suspicion... (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2020 OP
K&R! SheltieLover Oct 2020 #1
Well, we know what to do with creatures like Rove. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2020 #2
He did it before. He is the reason that Don Siegelman lost the election Ferrets are Cool Oct 2020 #3
I Sent Money To Siegelman's Defense Fund - He Was A Political Prisoner DanieRains Oct 2020 #17
Yeah, that was Baldwin Co. A VERY red part of Alabama. nt Ferrets are Cool Oct 2020 #23
Since the beginning of voting in the world KentuckyWoman Oct 2020 #4
Indirectly, Rove's admission proves that the vote tally for Don Siegelman was changed. no_hypocrisy Oct 2020 #5
AUDIT YOUR OWN POLLING PLACE! mopinko Oct 2020 #6
I don't them most people even understand wat you're describing. Sounds like you are quite Dream Girl Oct 2020 #11
ok. former judge here. at the end of the night, they print polls tapes. mopinko Oct 2020 #22
Yes! That would be very helpful! It would be great if this were known more broadly. Even beyond DU Dream Girl Oct 2020 #25
started a thread. mopinko Oct 2020 #26
They failed in 2012 in Ohio...but succeeded in '04... Moostache Oct 2020 #7
Me too crimycarny Oct 2020 #13
I've always thought that he didn't want broad vote by mail before of the paper trail. Dream Girl Oct 2020 #27
Ham Rove Blue Owl Oct 2020 #8
proud of your damn cheating MF self, rove? Cha Oct 2020 #9
What are th poll tapes Meowmee Oct 2020 #10
Sure, he did it in 2004. LizBeth Oct 2020 #12
Rove is a very special kind of despicable.... FM123 Oct 2020 #14
Sounds like exactly the sort of thing Rove would put out to get folks chasing their own tails greenjar_01 Oct 2020 #15
Hopefully in Rove's next reincarnation Zambero Oct 2020 #16
If there are a bunch of close states... Jeebo Oct 2020 #18
Ohio 2004 anyone budkin Oct 2020 #19
6-7% switch in the most populous areas and biggest precincts. Ohio 2004. Captain Zero Oct 2020 #20
There needs to be federal oversight of voting machines dansolo Oct 2020 #21
I can't believe that man is still flapping his gums FakeNoose Oct 2020 #24

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,517 posts)
2. Well, we know what to do with creatures like Rove.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 11:13 PM
Oct 2020

Now that we know what he's up to.

Dirty scummy bastard!

Ferrets are Cool

(21,102 posts)
3. He did it before. He is the reason that Don Siegelman lost the election
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 11:17 PM
Oct 2020

in 2004. So much wrong doing by this POS.

I have always been upset that President Obama did not pardon Siegelman. He was not guilty of the crimes he was accused of.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
17. I Sent Money To Siegelman's Defense Fund - He Was A Political Prisoner
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:06 AM
Oct 2020

He won the election and they switched 3,000 votes in one area I read.

The ballots were sealed, and couldn't be recounted.

Republican appointed judges. Not all are bad but some are insanely bad and corrupt and criminals.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
4. Since the beginning of voting in the world
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 11:17 PM
Oct 2020

It has been understood whoever counts the votes wins the elections.

Back in the day when men all knew each other and stood in the local schoolhouse or saloon and just raised a hand, then it was just limited to vote buying or intimidation.

But now, I always expect the system to be rigged. To be honest, I am still shocked they let Obama win. However, I doubt we have seen anything this bad. Not even pregnant Chad.

no_hypocrisy

(46,019 posts)
5. Indirectly, Rove's admission proves that the vote tally for Don Siegelman was changed.
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 11:19 PM
Oct 2020

And he was set up, unduly indicted, convicted, and jailed.

mopinko

(69,986 posts)
6. AUDIT YOUR OWN POLLING PLACE!
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 11:23 PM
Oct 2020

sorry to yell, but i have been saying this for the last 3 cycles.
go to your polling place after closing.
take a pic of the tape.
or write down the totals.

then check the next day on your local boe website.

if we all took responsibility for our own polling place, they.would.not.get.away.w.this.shit.
it we made it a hash tag, maybe they wouldnt even try it.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
11. I don't them most people even understand wat you're describing. Sounds like you are quite
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 11:54 PM
Oct 2020

Familiar with polling sites and how they operate.I know I don’t. Take a picture of the tape? Wat? Wher? How does this work?

mopinko

(69,986 posts)
22. ok. former judge here. at the end of the night, they print polls tapes.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 07:24 AM
Oct 2020

and they are posted where they are visible to the public.
anyone can check the totals that come off the machines.
they arent always the totals that get sent to the tabulation center.

a data cart from the machines gets turned in, but unless that is the precinct that gets "randomly" chosen to be audited, no one would know.

should i do an op?

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
25. Yes! That would be very helpful! It would be great if this were known more broadly. Even beyond DU
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:16 AM
Oct 2020

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
7. They failed in 2012 in Ohio...but succeeded in '04...
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 11:25 PM
Oct 2020

they also succeeded in '16 in MI, PA and WI - and I will go to my grave without being moved from that opinion.

If its close, its going to be stolen...'00, '04, '16
If its definitive, its going to be Blue...'08, '12 and '20...

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
13. Me too
Wed Oct 28, 2020, 11:55 PM
Oct 2020

The exit polls were wildly out of whack with the results. I too will go to my grave believing votes were switched. Remember when the Ohio server “crashed” in 2004? And again in 2012 when Karl Rove famously threw a hissy fit on FOX when they called it for Obama? Anonymous (hacking group) claimed in 2012 ahead of the election that they had discovered a “middle man” for the Ohio vote count and they warned Rove they were onto him and would be watching. Just like in 2004 the Ohio server crashed and you could literally see Rove get a satisfied look in his eye. When it came back up...no change! That’s when FOX called it for Obama and Rove freaked out. Anonymous claims they thwarted the middle man attack.

We’ll never know for sure but as sh*tty as security is for these old government voting servers/machines it wouldn’t be all that hard to do.

But, as you stated, if the margin is too big (in Biden’s favor of course!) they can’t get away with it. Plus we have a paper trail with so many mail in ballots. THAT’S why Trump didn’t want mail-in ballots...he doesn’t want a paper trail.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
27. I've always thought that he didn't want broad vote by mail before of the paper trail.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:20 AM
Oct 2020

Plus harder to suppress with Election Day shenanigans

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
15. Sounds like exactly the sort of thing Rove would put out to get folks chasing their own tails
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:02 AM
Oct 2020

and looking ridiculous in the bargain.

Too many willing to play that role.

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
16. Hopefully in Rove's next reincarnation
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:32 AM
Oct 2020

he'll return as the swine he always had been, having miserably failed his test as a human being.

Jeebo

(2,019 posts)
18. If there are a bunch of close states...
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 03:39 AM
Oct 2020

...on election night and they all go for President Orange Con Man, we'll all KNOW that somebody's been monkeying with the vote totals. Six close states, for example, ALL going for the con man would be like six consecutive coin flips all coming up heads. It ain't gonna happen, and if it does, you better inspect that coin to make sure it isn't heads on BOTH sides.

Yes, just as several posters in this thread have suggested, I suspect the Republicons messed with the vote and stole several elections. 2000, 2004, 2016, and they TRIED in 2012 but Anonymous thwarted them.

-- Ron

Captain Zero

(6,780 posts)
20. 6-7% switch in the most populous areas and biggest precincts. Ohio 2004.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 05:53 AM
Oct 2020

In small ruraL COUNTIEs Bush declined about 6% between 2000 and 2004, but in big cities he gained 6-7%.
Huge anomaly never followed up.

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
21. There needs to be federal oversight of voting machines
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:52 AM
Oct 2020

The HAVA was a terrible law that was created as a knee-jerk reaction to the 2000 election debacle. It needs to be updated to mandate federal oversight and auditing of all voting machines and tabulators. None of this 'trade secret' bullshit. No jurisdiction should be allowed to use machines that are not certified as being secure. The problem is that these machines are produced by companies with a stated preference for a particular party, and implemented in red states by people who intentionally ignore their inherent insecurity.

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