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wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:57 PM Oct 2020

Do we know Trump will appear to be ahead on the night of 11/3?

Kavanaugh et al. seem to be assuming they can save Trump's ass if they stop voting on 11/3. Do we know for sure Trump will appear to be ahead then? We do expect early votes to break for Biden, but are we sure the difference between early and on-election-day votes will be enough to make it look as if Trump's winning?

Am I missing something?

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Do we know Trump will appear to be ahead on the night of 11/3? (Original Post) wryter2000 Oct 2020 OP
It will be amusing if it is a genuine Biden blowout win Miguelito Loveless Oct 2020 #1
That's what I'm thinking wryter2000 Oct 2020 #3
Been thinking the same thing Sugarcoated Oct 2020 #16
I bet that will be the case in several Rice4VP Oct 2020 #20
So, we get to watch Trump's toadies Miguelito Loveless Oct 2020 #21
Well, counting late ballots in NC helps Democrats Rice4VP Oct 2020 #22
No they won't. Why try to make sense of their insanity? LakeArenal Oct 2020 #2
they haven't said that at all..... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #4
I certainly want all votes counted wryter2000 Oct 2020 #6
+1. We don't need to make things worse by misinterpreting the situation. Hoyt Oct 2020 #14
Well, he has no authority to do that so Rice4VP Oct 2020 #24
true... but he is still calling for it, and he does have a 6-3 scotus... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #26
No, not at all. coti Oct 2020 #5
Very true wryter2000 Oct 2020 #7
recounts are what people tend to see taking weeks to resolve... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #8
OF COURSE he will..... Have we not seen Cartaphelius Oct 2020 #9
They are leaving all the options open so they can take advantage of what works best for them. 33taw Oct 2020 #10
That makes sense wryter2000 Oct 2020 #13
nobody knows as this is all unprecendented. Voltaire2 Oct 2020 #11
If he is not, he will DEMAND that all late-arriving ballots be counted. MineralMan Oct 2020 #12
That's what I'm hoping wryter2000 Oct 2020 #15
I think that is what will happen too Bettie Oct 2020 #29
North Carolina should be in early- that should tell a lot Alhena Oct 2020 #17
and florida.... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #23
Nope...I don't know why the media keeps saying Rice4VP Oct 2020 #18
He will not be ahead Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #19
It depends on the state.... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #25
FL will have a vote count by 8:30 PM eastern time. flamin lib Oct 2020 #27
He will always be ahead in what passes for his mind. Sneederbunk Oct 2020 #28

Miguelito Loveless

(5,823 posts)
1. It will be amusing if it is a genuine Biden blowout win
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 12:59 PM
Oct 2020

on election night, and Trump and Injustice Kavanaugh have to pull a 180 and demand all the "late" ballots be counted

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
3. That's what I'm thinking
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:01 PM
Oct 2020

I would have an extra shot of Scotch in celebration if that happened.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
20. I bet that will be the case in several
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:20 PM
Oct 2020

key states. He will demand that they keep counting until he’s ahead

Miguelito Loveless

(5,823 posts)
21. So, we get to watch Trump's toadies
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:21 PM
Oct 2020

try to get the SCOTUS to rule that late ballots should be counted in NC, but not Texas.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
22. Well, counting late ballots in NC helps Democrats
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:41 PM
Oct 2020

I think they just did that because of the military vote.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
2. No they won't. Why try to make sense of their insanity?
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:00 PM
Oct 2020

You know everything had malicious intent.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
4. they haven't said that at all.....
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:01 PM
Oct 2020

While still despicable, what kav and thomas whistled was they might not allow ballots received after 11/3 to be counted, which is very different than what trump is calling for.

Trump is calling for stopping counting of votes on 11/3. Even if they were filed and received before then or even on election day.

That would be a much, much, larger number.

It's still a danger and every vote cast by election day should count, but you are mixing disaster scenarios.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
6. I certainly want all votes counted
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:05 PM
Oct 2020

But both scenarios could be moot if Biden seems to be winning clearly on election night.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
24. Well, he has no authority to do that so
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:43 PM
Oct 2020

I don’t even know why that’s a discussion. It’s impossible to count millions of ballots in 1 day. Some states don’t allow counting before Election Day

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
26. true... but he is still calling for it, and he does have a 6-3 scotus...
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:46 PM
Oct 2020

so it is worth discussing at least.

coti

(4,625 posts)
5. No, not at all.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:04 PM
Oct 2020

I think they're still stuck on the idea that early or mail-in votes are only counted after election day. That's often not the case. But, because they're so accustomed to life in a made-up reality, their brains hold onto these self-kidding "facts" well beyond their being disproved to allow them hope that Trump will win.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
8. recounts are what people tend to see taking weeks to resolve...
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:09 PM
Oct 2020

Those votes are usually razor close and hand recounts with objections really slow things down.

It may slow down some states where they can't open ballots until polls close, but it won't be weeks. A day or two at most to tabulate them.

 

Cartaphelius

(868 posts)
9. OF COURSE he will..... Have we not seen
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:11 PM
Oct 2020

enough "Clues", from Jan. 17, 2017 for any other possible outcome?

He has been tirelessly and unapologetically telling the
entire world that is simply a matter of course, after
illegally setting up an overwhelming "no-win situation"
by corrupting everyone and everything he touches.

33taw

(3,353 posts)
10. They are leaving all the options open so they can take advantage of what works best for them.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:11 PM
Oct 2020

If they are ahead, they will stop the count. If they are behind, they will insist it continue.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
11. nobody knows as this is all unprecendented.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:14 PM
Oct 2020

But they are just setting up the groundwork for using the Supremely Fucked Court to change the results of the election.

MineralMan

(151,454 posts)
12. If he is not, he will DEMAND that all late-arriving ballots be counted.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:14 PM
Oct 2020

That's the funny irony of what he is attempting to do.

wryter2000

(47,940 posts)
15. That's what I'm hoping
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:18 PM
Oct 2020

Either that it's settled on Biden by 11/3 (unlikely) or Trump starts yelling "Count all the mail-in ballots." I think the entire cosmos could have a laugh at that.

Bettie

(19,793 posts)
29. I think that is what will happen too
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:15 PM
Oct 2020

He's going to be flipping out when he isn't ahead at the end of the night.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
23. and florida....
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:42 PM
Oct 2020

FL counts votes as they arrive. They don't wait till polls close. We should know very quickly with them.

I'm not hopeful for florida for a lot of reasons, but they do count mail in ballots efficiently, mostly because it has been very favorable to the gop in the past.

Johnny2X2X

(24,347 posts)
19. He will not be ahead
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:19 PM
Oct 2020

The media is just looking for a story when the lection looks like a blowout right now.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
25. It depends on the state....
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 01:44 PM
Oct 2020

Some states don't allow early ballots to be counted until polls close. Others count them as they go but don't tabulate them until polls open.

So FL will report them early. Other states, not so early. Sorry about the lack of naming the states, I just can't recall which wait until polls close.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
27. FL will have a vote count by 8:30 PM eastern time.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:01 PM
Oct 2020

If Biden takes FL, it's over for Trump. Almost no road to 270 without FL.

Texas is counting early ballots now and should have a call by 11:00 PM central time. If TX also goes Biden there is absolutely no way Trump can get 270. None.

Sneederbunk

(17,574 posts)
28. He will always be ahead in what passes for his mind.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 02:06 PM
Oct 2020

He thinks the 3 million popular vote victory HRC got in 2016 was bogus.

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