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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMelania's terrible English
First, let me say that I really don't care how most Americans who have immigrated sound...Hell, I don't care if they don't even speak English.....But with Melania it's different because of Trump's America First, anti-immigrant stance, and most of his supporters would make fun of someone who sounded like her.....On top of the that, she was portrayed as someone who was "fluent" in 5 languages. There is no way she is fluent in English, and it isn't the accent...it's the mispronunciations and the butchering of words....Again, normally I wouldn't care about an immigrant's broken English, but is the her portrayal and Trump's assholery towards immigrants.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)and she could have hired a voice coach....she pushed that birther crap..
TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts)qazplm135
(7,447 posts)and time to improve...if she cared.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)but some people have more trouble with languages than others.
SouthernLiberal
(407 posts)One of my grandmothers was from Ireland. She came here as a young woman, and died at 87 with an Irish accent as strong as ever.
I have lived in South Carolina for 21 years, and still sound like a yankee.
BainsBane
(53,031 posts)and speaking with as thick of an accent as Melania. I'm told that it is usually children who come before puberty that can learn to speak accent-free. It's far less common for adults. But lots of people have accents yet still speak English perfectly. Obviously there isn't a language barrier for the Irish.
JHB
(37,158 posts)...someone with the time and resources to get voice coaching in order to learn how to lose their accent. Someone who then does not bother doing so.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)she in the public eye..public speaker...
Celerity
(43,327 posts)Unless you are talking about Gaeilge (Irish) being your grandmother's chief tongue, and I highly, highly doubt she was only fluent in Gaeilge.
Melania's issues are her poor English grammar and vocabulary, not her accent.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Ilsa
(61,694 posts)"Poor communication" as a plus.
You're killing me today.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)If nothing else shes a great example of women who go after wealthy men for the money. They stay cutesy and sexy as long as plastic surgery allows. Trump probably told he likes her accent. And the boob size she and Ivanka have, and her plastic face. Come to think about it, Ivanka also has a plastic face.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)BainsBane
(53,031 posts)Why would that serve her? It might be a difference in nerves between speaking with a friend and public speaking. I think that's more likely.
madaboutharry
(40,208 posts)Have we ever once heard this woman speak any of the languages she claims to speak? The answer is no.
She claims to speak Italian.
But when in Italy, Melania required an interpreter to communicate with small school children. And further, when she entered the room and offered a greeting in Italian she used the incorrect tense.
She claims to speak French.
But when conversing with President and Mrs. Macron, Melania was only able to speak with them in English. Not a word of French passed her lips.
She claims to speak German:
Nope.
Her English is awful. She speaks the English of a poorly educated person.
I concede she speaks her native Slovenian.
Melania dropped out of college after 1 semester. When and where would she have learned all these languages?
In my opinion, this "5 languages lie" was bullshit that originated in the pathologically lying mind of Donald Trump. He probably also told her to lie about having a degree in Architecture from "University in Slovenia."
Excuse me, but Architecture is an incredible difficult degree to obtain. You need to be able to master Calculus. Does Melania strike you as a person who knows Calculus? It was such a blatant lie, that it was quietly retracted.
PufPuf23
(8,767 posts)as was national language of Yugoslavia.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I don't believe she speaks any other language than her own fluently. And she speaks English badly.
She has been in this country for at least 25 years and has had every opportunity to learn the language and accent fluently but she has not. If she is not stupid, then she is just lazy. Her English is atrocious for someone who has been here that long and who has been privileged. She clearly has no facility for languages.
I happen to think that she is lazy and stupid, considering her tenure as "first lady". What has she done besides coin the phrase "Be Best" and destroy the Rose Garden? Oh, yes, and the lovely Christmas decorations, which I am sure were done with the help of a consultant. Not one measurable metric to her name. Nothing. Zip.
She is the most useless, pointless "first lady" in history. She is a disgrace to this nation, just like her revolting husband and his children.
madaboutharry
(40,208 posts)kskiska
(27,045 posts)and she needed an interpreter. She and Barron spend lots of time with her parents and they speak only in Slovenian.
dsc
(52,155 posts)I would think, given where she is from, she likely did learn Italian and German and even English while in school. But, she clearly isn't a language savant in any sense of the word. She also may not have practiced the languages. I would think her modeling career would have led her to practice Italian though.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Just saying. Like 1st year high school student level
Butterflylady
(3,542 posts)But for her and dump I make an exception.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)I have several friends who are immigrants, who speak with foreign accents of one kind or another. Doesn't bother me at all, and I enjoy their friendship and their points of view. This is not about the accents, it's about the hypocrisy of the Chumps and people like them.
Chump's own mother came from another country, and his father was born in the U.S. to parents who raised him to speak German before he spoke English. Having fluency in a 2nd language (other than English) is a sign of intelligence and mental flexibility if nothing else.
I believe Chump's hatred of immigrants is a pretense to get the MAGAts to support him. It became another one of his dog whistles, once he learned how to get the MAGAts worked up at the rallies. He'll say anything if he thinks they'll scream and cheer for it.
brewens
(13,574 posts)Maybe he's an expert linguist. Mailordia sure as shit isn't. He's pretty good at hockey too.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He speaks English perfectly and he has been here half as long as she has. And, on top of that, he has actually done something with his life besides marry a rich guy and read fashion magazines. If he can manage to find the time to master the language, then there is no excuse for her.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)the US with my father when she was in her 30s and while she had an accent it Was nothing like Melanias and she spoke flawlessly with better grammar than most native English speakers.
My theory on Melania is that she hasnt had enough practice. She and 45 probably barely speak to one another at home.
brewens
(13,574 posts)just enough to get by in her former occupation. The accent was probably an asset for a few years. Perverted, old, rich guys find that exotic.
patricia92243
(12,595 posts)them in her native language. Sounds like a combination of not enough practice in English and not using a coach to make oneself sound just a little bit plainer.
mopinko
(70,083 posts)so, your point is still valid. but she could be helping them w their english, instead.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)They do? Source?
patricia92243
(12,595 posts)Obama's mother lived in the WH. It is not uncommon for grandparents to be available for the grandchildren.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Malaria and Barron would escape to get away from the WH.
Here's one:
https://www.ibtimes.com/melania-trump-son-barron-allegedly-living-maryland-flotus-parents-not-potus-2915889
There are rumors that the president and first lady are not living together. The speculations intensified after Roland Scahill, an American former theater agent, tweeted about the first couples rumored living arrangement in July 2019.
Can we finally stop making believe that Melania and Baron (sic) live in the White House? he wrote on Twitter.
The post received various reactions from the netizens, with many wondering about the security cost. Some believed that Melania is living with her parents. Another speculated that the first ladys parents stayed in Maryland to be close to their grandson, Barron.
and another:
https://www.bustle.com/p/where-melania-trump-lives-is-a-question-the-white-house-laughs-about-all-the-time-9002681
There are several others, but they're behind a paywall.
Either way, no big deal. I was just surprised by your statement as I hadn't seen that elsewhere.
BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)The images of her rubbing her hoo hoo on Trumps plane upholstery in a series of photos that have become familiar to most.
Her moose and squirrel accent will be the other thing I remember most.
And oh yeah, besides being barely able to speak English shes a virulent racist too.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... as she's sounding them out.
beaglelover
(3,466 posts)Watching CNNs specials on Sundays about former first ladies, I doubt they could fill 10 minutes of what Melania has accomplished as first lady, let alone an hour.
hauckeye
(634 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)Fluent in the F lang
BlueNProud
(1,048 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It was the Safari interview, but I forgot who it was with. She said she was the most bullied person in the nation. What a pathetic whiner!
BlueNProud
(1,048 posts)StarryNite
(9,443 posts)I don't care about accents. My grandmother had an accent. But it's always that double standard that gets me.
moondust
(19,972 posts)Her written skills may be somewhat better but I doubt it. Language skills tend to atrophy with disuse.
Why haven't Republicans who typically hate immigrants made a bigger scandal out of "that ferner livin in our Whitey House"?!!
Don't forget that her parents used "chain migration" despite Dotard's hostility to it for others.
Melania Trumps Parents Become U.S. Citizens, Using Chain Migration Trump Hates
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)struggle4progress
(118,280 posts)Boogiemack
(1,406 posts)think about that?
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)WAY NO!