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(85,975 posts)
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:04 PM Oct 2020

Charlie Cook: Question seems to be whether we'll see a "skinny" Biden win or a landslide




Don't expect a contested election
The cone of uncertainty has narrowed considerably. Now, the question seems to be whether we'll see a "skinny" Biden win or a landslide.

Joe Biden’s path to 270 electoral votes seems pretty straightforward: Hold all 20 states (plus the District of Columbia) that Hillary Clinton carried four years ago, which total 232 electoral votes, just 38 short of the majority threshold of 270. Then win each of the three states that Clinton lost by eight-tenths of a point or less: Michigan (0.2 percentage points) Pennsylvania (0.7), and Wisconsin (0.8). That gives him 278 electoral votes, eight more than needed. Biden will likely also carry two congressional districts that eluded Clinton in 2016, Nebraska’s 2nd District and Maine’s 2nd, giving him 280 electoral votes. That would represent a “skinny” Biden win.

A big Biden win would bring in Arizona, Florida, and North Carolina, and might also include one or two states from the next tier, mostly likely Georgia or Iowa, although don’t count out Ohio or Texas. Generally speaking, Trump is underperforming his 2016 pace by 3 to 8 points, depending upon the state or district.

The RealClearPolitics average of national polls pegs Biden’s lead at 7.4 points, 51.1 to 43.7 percent. But that’s a less discriminating measure, including as it does some mediocre surveys, some that seemed congenitally slanted toward one side or the other, and some that would be better utilized lining hamster cages. The FiveThirtyEight modeled average of national polls, which is more selective than the RCP average but still includes some surveys that I consider rather sketchy, puts the Biden lead at 8.8 points, 52 to 43.2 percent.

I believe his actual lead is more like 9 or 10 points, based on the higher-quality, live-telephone-interview national polls conducted since the first debate, as well as the gold standard of online polling, the Pew Research Center’s mammoth poll of 11,929 voters released two weeks ago.

read more: https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/711037?unlock=SRT6SBVCJHPBFJTS




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Charlie Cook: Question seems to be whether we'll see a "skinny" Biden win or a landslide (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2020 OP
:) Dem2 Oct 2020 #1
Yes this is by far the most optimistic thing I've read in a while. underpants Oct 2020 #5
Me too! This is a great read from a trustworthy source, and very reassuring. nt crickets Oct 2020 #14
K&R MustLoveBeagles Oct 2020 #2
Don't let our guard down jimlup Oct 2020 #3
no shit. bigtree Oct 2020 #4
Good work Sherlock /nt jimlup Oct 2020 #7
democrat's guard is ALWAYS down. ignoring talk radio is the biggest certainot Oct 2020 #23
THANKS! elleng Oct 2020 #6
RCP highly rates Talfagar group and Rasmussen Jamesyu Oct 2020 #8
Charlie on DU! NewsCenter28 Oct 2020 #9
Republican Compilation Polling Dem2 Oct 2020 #10
It is going to be a blowout AmericanCanuck Oct 2020 #11
I like the poll aggregator for the Economist, but Charlie Cook is the best!! Thekaspervote Oct 2020 #12
Thank you for this. blue neen Oct 2020 #13
K n R ! Thanks for posting! nt JoeOtterbein Oct 2020 #15
I just want to see the Senate turn BLUE FakeNoose Oct 2020 #16
Not for one second. After the crap we've put up with? mahina Oct 2020 #18
That's so cute......stealing! Nevilledog Oct 2020 #19
+1 BlueWavePsych Oct 2020 #28
Whoa! Did nit know Charlie was here. mahina Oct 2020 #17
he popped in on a Malaise thread in 2018 asking about his significant weight loss bigtree Oct 2020 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Oct 2020 #26
This is True, It's Right in Front of Our Noses So We're Really Not Seeing It but Skraxx Oct 2020 #21
Fantastic! I don't ever recall such certainty in a projection except perhaps 72 or 84 Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #22
K & R BadgerMom Oct 2020 #24
K & R BadgerMom Oct 2020 #25
After reading that, I am really optimistic. Still gonna vote tho obviously. :) Alhena Oct 2020 #27
kick bigtree Oct 2020 #29
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
23. democrat's guard is ALWAYS down. ignoring talk radio is the biggest
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:26 AM
Oct 2020

political mistake in history

it is just really stupid that city dwellers have no clue they're getting their asses kicked by a well-coordinated propaganda op like Voice of America turned back on us - Voice of Putin now...

bigtree

(85,975 posts)
20. he popped in on a Malaise thread in 2018 asking about his significant weight loss
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 11:18 PM
Oct 2020

...wondering if he was okay (he was).

Is Charlie Cook ill?
That is some serious weight loss

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210321711#post6

Response to bigtree (Reply #20)

Skraxx

(2,967 posts)
21. This is True, It's Right in Front of Our Noses So We're Really Not Seeing It but
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 11:20 PM
Oct 2020

The conventional wisdom is "Will Biden's win be big enough to overcome Trump's cheating/whining/tyranny". And that's a good thing.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,548 posts)
22. Fantastic! I don't ever recall such certainty in a projection except perhaps 72 or 84
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:04 AM
Oct 2020

I also think Cook May be crafting a pre-emptive narrative to get in ahead of Trump/Fox trying to capitalize on a potential “red mirage” Election Night.

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