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Seasider

(168 posts)
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:48 AM Oct 2020

I wish these media personalities would get over their 2016 PTSD anxiety

You got S.E Cupp on CNN posting a video inaccurately stating how Hillary had double digit lead at this stage in the election and then Michael Moore saying the polls are wrong because these "shy Trump voters" are skewing the numbers because they don't trust the deep state.

What these people forget is the majority of polls taken just before the election were within the margin of error so even if they weren't dead on accurate, they were fairly close. Of course anything is possible and Trump could still win but people need to stop trying to make the flawed case that we're in the same situation as we were in 2016. No, we are not.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-are-all-right/

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I wish these media personalities would get over their 2016 PTSD anxiety (Original Post) Seasider Oct 2020 OP
The MSNBC folks have left 2016 behind, are focused on patience waiting for results. Nt Fiendish Thingy Oct 2020 #1
We don't have Comey this year, and everyone knows anything Barr might say is world wide wally Oct 2020 #2
Your Use of "PTSD" The River Oct 2020 #3
What if someone suffers from it as a result of the 2016 election? BannonsLiver Oct 2020 #4
Please start your research here... pbmus Oct 2020 #5
Doesn't mean a thing BannonsLiver Oct 2020 #6
I personally suffer from PTSD and your assumption that you or others suffer pbmus Oct 2020 #8
Oops. Looks like you're wrong BannonsLiver Oct 2020 #7
Symptoms similar are not symptoms of... pbmus Oct 2020 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Oct 2020 #9

The River

(2,615 posts)
3. Your Use of "PTSD"
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 02:21 AM
Oct 2020

is uninformed drama queen hyperbole. It's also insulting to those who suffer from it.
Change the title or take it down,

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
5. Please start your research here...
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 02:32 AM
Oct 2020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-traumatic_stress_disorder

Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)[note 1] is a mental disorder that can develop after a person is exposed to a traumatic event, such as sexual assault, warfare, traffic collisions, child abuse, or other threats on a person's life.[1][6] Symptoms may include disturbing thoughts, feelings, or dreams related to the events, mental or physical distress to trauma-related cues, attempts to avoid trauma-related cues, alterations in how a person thinks and feels, and an increase in the fight-or-flight response.[1][3] These symptoms last for more than a month after the event.[1] Young children are less likely to show distress, but instead may express their memories through play.[1] A person with PTSD is at a higher risk of suicide and intentional self-harm.[2][7]

Most people who experience traumatic events do not develop PTSD.[2] People who experience interpersonal trauma such as rape or child abuse are more likely to develop PTSD as compared to people who experience non-assault based trauma, such as accidents and natural disasters.[8] About half of people develop PTSD following rape.[2][9][disputed – discuss] Children are less likely than adults to develop PTSD after trauma, especially if they are under 10 years of age.[10] Diagnosis is based on the presence of specific symptoms following a traumatic event.[2]

Prevention may be possible when counselling is targeted at those with early symptoms but is not effective when provided to all trauma-exposed individuals whether or not symptoms are present.[2] The main treatments for people with PTSD are counselling (psychotherapy) and medication.[3][11] Antidepressants of the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor type are the first-line medications used for PTSD and are beneficial for about half of people.[4] Benefits from medication are less than those seen with counselling.[2] It is not known whether using medications and counselling together has greater benefit than either method separately.[2][12] Medications, other than SSRIs, do not have enough evidence to support their use and, in the case of benzodiazepines, may worsen outcomes.[13][14]

In the United States, about 3.5% of adults have PTSD in a given year, and 9% of people develop it at some point in their life.[1] In much of the rest of the world, rates during a given year are between 0.5% and 1%.[1] Higher rates may occur in regions of armed conflict.[2] It is more common in women than men.[3] Symptoms of trauma-related mental disorders have been documented since at least the time of the ancient Greeks.[15] During the World Wars, the condition was known under various terms including "shell shock" and "combat neurosis".[16] The term "post-traumatic stress disorder" came into use in the 1970s in large part due to the diagnoses of U.S. military veterans of the Vietnam War.[17] It was officially recognized by the American Psychiatric Association in 1980 in the third edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-III).[18]

BannonsLiver

(16,275 posts)
6. Doesn't mean a thing
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 02:34 AM
Oct 2020

There are people who have PTSD from the election. Period. Your cut and paste job, from Wikipedia no less, does not disprove that.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
8. I personally suffer from PTSD and your assumption that you or others suffer
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 02:42 AM
Oct 2020

From PTSD due to a presidential political loss is disdainful. Again I ask you to read the first sentence of the description of PTSD. I must also inform you I have a doctorate in psychology.

‘Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD)[note 1] is a mental disorder that can develop after a person is exposed to a traumatic event, such as sexual assault, warfare, traffic collisions, child abuse, or other threats on a person's life.’

BannonsLiver

(16,275 posts)
7. Oops. Looks like you're wrong
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 02:38 AM
Oct 2020
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/23/trump-clinton-2016-election-ptsd-students-stressful-experience-


The 2016 presidential election was so stressful for some college students that a quarter of those surveyed showed symptoms similar to post-traumatic stress disorder, according to a new study.

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