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Catcar

(1,356 posts)
3. Voting is the bedrock of democracy.
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:11 PM
Oct 2020

Suppression of any vote should be considered an act of war against a democracy. Should be Treason to suppress a vote or cheat an election.

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
5. And the GOP's continuing efforts to suppress voters and their votes, still ongoing and still toxic,
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:13 PM
Oct 2020

is still out there, in all of its pathetic glory. Why in the world was that consent decree that the GOP previously agreed to years and years ago, to stop such activities ever allowed to expire? Why? I smell a rat here somewhere and I think that they (Biden and his DOJ, etc.) will need to look at the circumstances of letting this consent decree to expire.

We, as Americans, don't need to worry about our votes being attacked for a variety of reasons, including republican efforts to slow down the US Mail (any ballots still left in the postal system and deliberately delayed should always count, no matter the date finally being rec'd by polling officials). Other reasons to discount votes is supposedly 'bad' signatures (ridiculous), tampering of the ballots of some kind (ridiculous), and the list will go on forever.

I suspect that the republicans and the money changers sat in many a dark room, and came up w/ all of these nefarious methods to challenge the voting methods and votes, in all sorts of ways, to keep the status quo in place. Keep taxes low. Keep the powers that be, in power, and not let everyday Americans actually govern.

jrthin

(4,835 posts)
6. Agreed! The M$M reports of this crime
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:13 PM
Oct 2020

as though it's business as usual. There is no moral or ethical outrage in their reporting of Voter Suppression, just an effing oh-well attitude
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Voltaire2

(13,012 posts)
7. Supremely Fucked Court abolished effective enforcement of the voting rights act.
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:14 PM
Oct 2020

Allowing ALEC coordinated state legislatures to proceed full steam ahead with suppression activities, unhindered by court monitoring and DOJ intervention.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
10. ?? Because no such laws exist AND IF democrats can get back state and local offices, this can be
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:16 PM
Oct 2020

easily fixed. Look at Harris County Texas as the example, We have this issue because of being too uncaring and indifferent for decades as democrats

jalan48

(13,859 posts)
11. It should be. We're reminded every year on Memorial Day about all those who died for our
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:16 PM
Oct 2020

freedoms. Is our current election system what they died for?

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
13. Republicans seek to protect the minority of the opulent...
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 12:30 PM
Oct 2020

... against the majority.

That's been their main focus since long before I was born, choosing the Madison path rather than the Aristotle one.

https://chomsky.info/commongood02/


Aristotle also made the point that if you have, in a perfect democracy, a small number of very rich people and a large number of very poor people, the poor will use their democratic rights to take property away from the rich. Aristotle regarded that as unjust, and proposed two possible solutions: reducing poverty (which is what he recommended) or reducing democracy.

James Madison, who was no fool, noted the same problem, but unlike Aristotle, he aimed to reduce democracy rather than poverty. He believed that the primary goal of government is "to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority." As his colleague John Jay was fond of putting it, "The people who own the country ought to govern it."

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