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coti

(4,612 posts)
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 04:08 PM Oct 2020

Montana really could be closer than you think

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/montana/

Far from expecting Biden to win MT, but if you look at the polls the most recent samples are showing a clear trend toward Biden, and it's getting close enough (Biden within 2-3%) that turnout factors could determine the result in this small-population state with a politically-active college culture.
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icwlmuscyia

(296 posts)
8. Met Bullock during the Iowa caucuses - really liked him
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 05:12 PM
Oct 2020

Don't think I have ever met a more down to earth guy.

If he wins, I wouldn't be surprised to see him get talked about nationally. I sure hope so.

SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
4. Good!! I would sure welcome any of our friends from the South and West that are in ...
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 04:43 PM
Oct 2020

former states that rump won in 2016. As Americans for all Americans, why not? It's obvious that rump only thinks of one thing and one thing only, NOT the USA, but himself. What a selfish moron.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
5. It might have been a mistake not to emphasize Montana a little bit
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 04:54 PM
Oct 2020

I always emphasize the ideological percentages. Montana in that regard has never been a lost cause. It tops out at 40% conservatives even in bad cycles, while other GOP states reach well into the mid 40s and a few like Alabama can get to 50.

Plus note how Montana shifted sharply in ideology the last time we had a cycle like this with big nationwide slant:

2004: 36% conservatives 18% liberals
2008: 34% conservatives 21% liberals

That 2008 result was damn close to the national numbers. It demonstrated some elasticity in Montana. But then 2012 drifted back toward default status at 40% conservatives 19% liberals.

The lack of large cities limits Montana's upside, and with only 3 electoral votes it can't be too much of a priority. But let's put it this way, if Republicans had a state with similar longshot status but within reasonable ideological grasp, they would definitely take a swing at it. We seem overly reliant on recent voting percentages and not the makeup of a state.

The educational numbers in Montana are surprisingly very decent, at 30% no-college and 36% college graduates in 2016 electorate. That is very similar to most of the swing states and actually far superior to states like Pennsylvania and Ohio.

coti

(4,612 posts)
7. I agree. The state even has a Dem governor and Senator
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 05:11 PM
Oct 2020

Clearly Dems weren't completely out of the running this year.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
11. I've sweated out lots of those Montana races here late at night
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 05:28 PM
Oct 2020

Schweitzer before Bullock and especially Tester a couple of times, including one all nighter when he trailed throughout but many of us here were desperately rooting for the Indian reservation vote to put Tester over the top

It did

WSHazel

(159 posts)
9. MT, SC, AK and KS will be closer than WI and MI
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 05:14 PM
Oct 2020

but "tightening polls" is all we hear from the pundits. Sell the horse race.

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