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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMontana really could be closer than you think
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/montana/Far from expecting Biden to win MT, but if you look at the polls the most recent samples are showing a clear trend toward Biden, and it's getting close enough (Biden within 2-3%) that turnout factors could determine the result in this small-population state with a politically-active college culture.
Stallion
(6,474 posts)dchill
(38,465 posts)I hope so!
icwlmuscyia
(296 posts)Don't think I have ever met a more down to earth guy.
If he wins, I wouldn't be surprised to see him get talked about nationally. I sure hope so.
coti
(4,612 posts)MissB
(15,805 posts)Its horrific
SWBTATTReg
(22,100 posts)former states that rump won in 2016. As Americans for all Americans, why not? It's obvious that rump only thinks of one thing and one thing only, NOT the USA, but himself. What a selfish moron.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I always emphasize the ideological percentages. Montana in that regard has never been a lost cause. It tops out at 40% conservatives even in bad cycles, while other GOP states reach well into the mid 40s and a few like Alabama can get to 50.
Plus note how Montana shifted sharply in ideology the last time we had a cycle like this with big nationwide slant:
2004: 36% conservatives 18% liberals
2008: 34% conservatives 21% liberals
That 2008 result was damn close to the national numbers. It demonstrated some elasticity in Montana. But then 2012 drifted back toward default status at 40% conservatives 19% liberals.
The lack of large cities limits Montana's upside, and with only 3 electoral votes it can't be too much of a priority. But let's put it this way, if Republicans had a state with similar longshot status but within reasonable ideological grasp, they would definitely take a swing at it. We seem overly reliant on recent voting percentages and not the makeup of a state.
The educational numbers in Montana are surprisingly very decent, at 30% no-college and 36% college graduates in 2016 electorate. That is very similar to most of the swing states and actually far superior to states like Pennsylvania and Ohio.
coti
(4,612 posts)Clearly Dems weren't completely out of the running this year.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Schweitzer before Bullock and especially Tester a couple of times, including one all nighter when he trailed throughout but many of us here were desperately rooting for the Indian reservation vote to put Tester over the top
It did
WSHazel
(159 posts)but "tightening polls" is all we hear from the pundits. Sell the horse race.