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Joshua A. Geltzer
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"This newfound notion that legislatures must, in utter isolation, set election rules alone is impossible to square with the basics of how law works in America."
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Perspective | The absurd legal theory conservative judges are using to restrict voting
No, state election laws dont have to be set by legislatures alone without input from executives or courts.
washingtonpost.com
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/30/conservative-judges-voting-theory/
A novel legal theory is surging among conservative judges and justices. The notion is that, under the Constitution, only state legislatures without any input from state executives or courts may set the rules for presidential elections. This theory is clearly a misunderstanding of constitutional election law. But its actually worse than that: It fundamentally misapprehends how law itself functions. To imagine that the work of legislatures can be wholly isolated from the work of other parts of our government is a fantasy untethered from an inescapable feature of the American legal system: Law represents an interplay between legislators and those who must interpret and implement their handiwork, including judges and executive branch officials.
Heres what everyone agrees on: Article II of the Constitution says that [e]ach State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, that states representatives to the electoral college, which chooses the president. No one disputes the basic reality that state legislatures typically take the lead in setting rules for the statewide elections that choose electors who, in turn, choose a president.
But in the past couple of weeks, the focus on two words in that constitutional text the Legislature has been taken to fanatical extremes. Most recent and most absurd is a decision on Thursday by a federal court of appeals that, five days before Election Day (too late for the state to do anything to respond to it), abruptly changed the rule for Minnesota voters from a requirement that their mail-in ballots be sent by Election Day to a requirement that those ballots be received by Election Day, thus unsettling at the last moment both the law and voters expectations. The two judges voting for that outcome insisted that a state official whod interpreted state law to allow the more accommodating deadline had intruded on a power reserved to the legislature alone. Its the same basic notion that Justice Neil M. Gorsuch expressed in voting to halt a decision by North Carolinas State Board of Elections interpreting North Carolina law on election rules, and that Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. articulated in voting to halt a Pennsylvania Supreme Court decision interpreting that states election laws. Alito insisted on strict adherence to the provisions of the Federal Constitution conferring on state legislatures, not state courts, the authority to make rules governing federal elections.
Theres the core principle uniting all of these recent decisions: State election rules must be set by state legislatures alone.
Put aside that this is the opposite of what the U.S. Supreme Court has said including in a 2015 decision holding that the Constitutions reference to the Legislature means a states process of making laws, including a governors role in vetoing laws and courts role in interpreting laws. And put aside the oddity that this idea means that a ballot could count for Minnesotas state elections but somehow not for federal ones, even though the same legislature enacted the rules for both of them and the ballot includes candidates for both sorts of offices. Even more fundamentally, this newfound notion that legislatures must, in utter isolation, set election rules alone is impossible to square with the basics of how law works in America.
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Fiendish Thingy
(15,553 posts)From Laurence Tribe, among others:
Legislatures cannot act alone in appointing electors
(References existing law and prior rulings, including SCOTUS):
http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2020/09/state-legislatures-cannot-act-alone-in.html
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e70e52c7c72720ed714313f/t/5f625c790cef066e940ea42d/1600281722253/State_Legislature_Paper.pdf
https://verdict.justia.com/2020/09/30/no-republicans-cannot-throw-the-presidential-election-into-the-house-so-that-trump-wins
https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Maps/Sep25.html#item-2
Thekaspervote
(32,715 posts)I worry that despite these laws that these RWNJ judges will rule differently. Having said that, I dont know all the ins and outs about how a precedent is set or how that would ultimately affect a ruling
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Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Minnesota -- or other agencies should not try to change the rules when they don't have the authority. If he had not, no one would have relied on his deadline. They would have mailed in in time to make the Nov 3rd deadline for receipt of ballots.
Fortunately, I believe Democrats are smart enough to use drop boxes if for some reason they waited until the last minute. I'm hoping GOPers did wait too long.
To extend the lesson, Congress needs to carefully draft laws to avoid challenges as much as possible.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)They may make exception for overseas voters and/or US service members.
It's not clear why Minnesota felt it necessary to change without enacting legislation.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Proceed with the balloting and the counting as planned. By the time any court gets a chance to weigh in, the results will already be certified by the state.