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highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:18 AM Oct 2020

Paul Krugman thread on the personal desperation of Trump officials if he loses

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Next week is going to be horrible, for multiple reasons. One reason I haven't seen mentioned much in the media has come up a lot in my discussions with Wall Street types: the personal desperation of the Trumpies if he loses 1/

Trump himself, of course, faces likely financial ruin from his unpayable debts and perhaps criminal charges if he loses the shield of office. Quite a few officials will probably also face criminal charges for abuse of office, both political and financial 2/

But there's another, more mundane issue facing many lower-level Trump minions: they may not get the traditional soft landing available to former officials, in which you move into a cushy lobbying or industry job 3/

Normally service in government is a plus on your resume; serving this government, not so much. For one thing, everyone knows that the Trumpies aren't the A team, or even the B team; they're people who had nothing better to do 4/

What about K Street? The usual connections won't count for much: Democrats control the House. If they take the Senate too, they will play hardball, giving McConnell very little chance to shape legislation — and anyway, it's obvious that MM personally despises Trump and co 5/

So if you are, say, Trump's Deputy Assistant Secretary for small endangered mammals, who's going to offer you a job? You pretty much burned your bridges by joining this administration, and that has jammed the revolving door. 6/

And if you're tempted to mock my mixed metaphor, all I can say is that if Biden wins, the upper hand will be on the other foot 7/

What all this means is that we're going to be looking at some very desperate people, many willing to do extreme things to pull this out 8/
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Paul Krugman thread on the personal desperation of Trump officials if he loses (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2020 OP
Upper hand...other foot MissB Oct 2020 #1
I know. chriscan64 Oct 2020 #12
Airplane! Wednesdays Oct 2020 #17
It ain't over til you've buttered your bread! klook Oct 2020 #50
oy vey. secondwind Oct 2020 #2
K&R Blue Owl Oct 2020 #3
ZERO sympathy for the Asshole's staff. cyndensco Oct 2020 #4
Yeah, we know.. but Much We Deal Cha Oct 2020 #5
Seems that only the drug addicts are willing to work for trump anymore Miigwech Oct 2020 #6
Yeah from the few who initially applied to turnover were at best dealing with the third team underpants Oct 2020 #9
Frosh/Soph, at best. Iggo Oct 2020 #44
People like DeJoy/Pompeo, et al should face SERIOUS criminal charges. empedocles Oct 2020 #7
I really really hope they do face prison time. And Bill Barr, for DESTROYING justice BComplex Oct 2020 #14
Some may already be exploring 'opportunities' abroad empedocles Oct 2020 #15
Maybe there'll be a new "colony" springing up - in Crimea? calimary Oct 2020 #25
Fortunes to be made if someone can provide a reasonably guaranteed safe haven empedocles Oct 2020 #36
Barr is lying low. For perhaps three reasons: Eyeball_Kid Oct 2020 #31
it's too late for barr..... only a pardon will help him getagrip_already Oct 2020 #33
Barr is lying low. For perhaps three reasons FelineOverlord Oct 2020 #48
Trump himself needs to face charges of treason. BComplex Oct 2020 #16
traitortrump is the key to treason. If we can get that, the dominos will fall empedocles Oct 2020 #34
+1, uponit7771 Oct 2020 #32
I think 45 will have a very large binder of pardons moonscape Oct 2020 #51
The "A' team and "B" team people. . .for that mattter. . .ANY DinahMoeHum Oct 2020 #8
I see a break in your employment history. Care to explain? underpants Oct 2020 #10
That's called "emphasizing your strengths". nt eppur_se_muova Oct 2020 #27
Bwahahahahahaha... not_the_one Oct 2020 #38
Quite a few of them won't have to lie about that jmowreader Oct 2020 #43
They're putting on their... lame54 Oct 2020 #46
People are now trying to figure out how to tavernier Oct 2020 #11
I hope they all end up cleaning bedpans for the rest of their lives UpInArms Oct 2020 #13
Not only cleaning bed pans.... SergeStorms Oct 2020 #24
Normal people don't work for Donald Trump. dalton99a Oct 2020 #18
That about sums it up Kitchari Oct 2020 #20
Hell will open p and swallow those Trump folk whole...all the better to roast them on the Devil's CTyankee Oct 2020 #19
A life of regret, shame, and ostracism is too little to hope for. NBachers Oct 2020 #21
Whenever/however Trump is gone, there will be many GOP/evangelical retroactive epiphanies. keithbvadu2 Oct 2020 #22
"...the upper hand will be on the other foot" mahannah Oct 2020 #23
Isn't that the greatest? So stealing it. catrose Oct 2020 #28
How did any of these people heading for financial or personal ruin - or BobTheSubgenius Oct 2020 #26
Karma cp Oct 2020 #29
Good! nt Hotler Oct 2020 #30
In politics, there is a seat for every ass that comes along..... getagrip_already Oct 2020 #35
Republicans are the F team I_UndergroundPanther Oct 2020 #37
Fine thread empedocles Oct 2020 #39
And by doing extreme things.... paleotn Oct 2020 #40
Nazis fled Germany taking their wealth with them landing in Latin America and other places. BarbD Oct 2020 #41
Ironically the pandemic they mismanaged limits their travel plans. ALBliberal Oct 2020 #42
Maybe they volunteer on those test cruises? (nt) HuskyOffset Oct 2020 #47
That's the sweetest punchline in this whole mess, innit? nt crickets Oct 2020 #52
K & R. dchill Oct 2020 #45
Fox can't hire them all. redstatebluegirl Oct 2020 #49

klook

(12,154 posts)
50. It ain't over til you've buttered your bread!
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:39 PM
Oct 2020

Also, with the time change, this one from Yogi is apropos: “It gets late early.”

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
6. Seems that only the drug addicts are willing to work for trump anymore
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:32 AM
Oct 2020

and rest working in the West Wing are fresh batches of young repub interns running around trying to hold day operation shit together.

underpants

(182,799 posts)
9. Yeah from the few who initially applied to turnover were at best dealing with the third team
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:45 AM
Oct 2020

more like the JV team.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
7. People like DeJoy/Pompeo, et al should face SERIOUS criminal charges.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:34 AM
Oct 2020

If treason becomes operative . . . as it should . . .

[Lot of recorded trump talk implying overthrow of . . . ]

BComplex

(8,050 posts)
14. I really really hope they do face prison time. And Bill Barr, for DESTROYING justice
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:05 AM
Oct 2020

in our country.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
36. Fortunes to be made if someone can provide a reasonably guaranteed safe haven
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:31 AM
Oct 2020

Look how much the Cabinet appointees paid to get those posts - and what sleazey things they did at those posts.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
31. Barr is lying low. For perhaps three reasons:
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:17 AM
Oct 2020

1. Barr has COVID and is sick.

2. Barr is keeping a low profile because he wants to distance himself from his crimes in advance of a new AG during Biden's administration. IOW, Barr knows that Trump is going down and doesn't want to get in the way.

3. Barr is getting ready to pounce on the election machinery by contesting election results everywhere. He may be managing the writing of briefs and appeals that will eventually get to the Supreme Court.


Barr is now seeing, IMO, that the end of his career is fast approaching. Trump's loss will force Barr to seek a lot of legal advice on how to stay out of jail. A new AG can run up the score on Barr. He'll have an army of defense attorneys. ETTD. And Barr will be the showcase example of how people who stick with Trump get his curse. At a minimum, Barr will lose his license. And if that's all, he'll have dodged not a bullet, but a cannon shot.

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
33. it's too late for barr..... only a pardon will help him
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:24 AM
Oct 2020

He has already committed crimes ranging from obstruction of justice to lying under oath to who knows what in gutting the fbi and doj.

He may just be trying to finally get his pardon. I either get it now, or I sit here with my hands in my pocket and cut a deal when the time comes.......

He know trumps still wants stuff. And will even after the election. And he wants that piece of paper. And trump won't give them out of spite because he lost.

FelineOverlord

(3,578 posts)
48. Barr is lying low. For perhaps three reasons
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 12:40 PM
Oct 2020

Barr is running around the country doing his Operation Legend tour because he is apparently very concerned about violent crime

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214385417

BComplex

(8,050 posts)
16. Trump himself needs to face charges of treason.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:31 AM
Oct 2020

He's been doing everything in his power to help Putin, Erdogon, Ibin Saud, Kim Jong Un, and any oligarch or billionaire that would "do him a favor, though". He sold our country out. Period. And for his own gain.

DinahMoeHum

(21,786 posts)
8. The "A' team and "B" team people. . .for that mattter. . .ANY
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:45 AM
Oct 2020

. . .prospective government official with an ounce of self-respect avoided this Trump mis-administration like the plague at the get-go.

They knew it would be a black spot on their resumes.

underpants

(182,799 posts)
10. I see a break in your employment history. Care to explain?
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:47 AM
Oct 2020

I was in prison.
Are you sure you weren’t working in the Trump administration?
Nope. Prison. Definitely prison.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
43. Quite a few of them won't have to lie about that
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 12:12 PM
Oct 2020

The secret with the Trump Administration is to find crimes that show up in both federal and state criminal codes, and pay the states to prosecute them. Trump can’t pardon state crimes, and there’s no double jeopardy involved because of the separate sovereigns doctrine.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
11. People are now trying to figure out how to
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:51 AM
Oct 2020

post deeply concerned and worried thoughts blasting rump, and just how they can backdate them to look believable.

UpInArms

(51,283 posts)
13. I hope they all end up cleaning bedpans for the rest of their lives
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:53 AM
Oct 2020

That may be a challenge, seeing as a drug test is required before hiring.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
24. Not only cleaning bed pans....
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:03 AM
Oct 2020

but doing so in the coronavirus wards of hospitals throughout the U.S. without any PPE available. There's nothing to this virus thing anyway, right?

Kitchari

(2,166 posts)
20. That about sums it up
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:53 AM
Oct 2020

No one who is normal, decent, mentally healthy would work for him, that's a fact

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
19. Hell will open p and swallow those Trump folk whole...all the better to roast them on the Devil's
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:37 AM
Oct 2020

rotisserie...but not too tasty...

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
26. How did any of these people heading for financial or personal ruin - or
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:08 AM
Oct 2020

even criminal charges - not see this day coming? Even if this election goes their way, the march of time doesn't stop. One day, they will be out of a job, and with a questionable CV, no matter what.

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
35. In politics, there is a seat for every ass that comes along.....
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:31 AM
Oct 2020

They won't fare that badly. Their will be some wing nut welfare company that will gladly pick them up. The my pillow guy, hobby lobby, wal mart, they will all hire ex admin officials in lofty jobs. As will the rest of the trump economy ecosystem.

Some will actually be hero's for enduring the pain. Some will be stars of industry. Some will be rubber chicken speakers making yuge sums.

Look, if Roger Stone could rise from Nixon, and Bill Barr from bush, there will always be a paycheck for these losers and bottom feeder.

I have no doubt we will be hearing their swill and vomit for decades to come. Some may actually get elected to national office.

And someday, one may become POTUS.

Sorry folks, they will not suffer defeat poorly. The world just doesn't work that way anymore.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
37. Republicans are the F team
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:31 AM
Oct 2020

For failure,foolish,feckless,
Fetid,flawed,fiendish,
Falsifying, farce freakish,fanatical, fascists..
and they're all fucked!

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
40. And by doing extreme things....
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:35 AM
Oct 2020

they make their plight that much worse. Best to go quietly and hope no one notices that big hole on their CV's. Maybe they'll avoid prosecution or at least public ridicule if they stay under the radar. Then again, these aren't the brightest folks as Krugman points out.

BarbD

(1,192 posts)
41. Nazis fled Germany taking their wealth with them landing in Latin America and other places.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:38 AM
Oct 2020

Not too sure where this group can go. It's every man for himself. They for sure aren't into the empathy thing.

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