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still_one

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Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:51 AM Oct 2020

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7 points? Dem2 Oct 2020 #1
That would be incredibly great! jimfields33 Oct 2020 #18
Woo hoo! Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2020 #2
RVs. Their LV poll was +8 Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #3
Yes. You have to go into the data, and you are right still_one Oct 2020 #6
"margin of sampling error of 2.5 percentage points" Wounded Bear Oct 2020 #4
I honestly think Florida has become impossible to accurately poll. hlthe2b Oct 2020 #5
I think the same applies to Pennsylvania also still_one Oct 2020 #7
FL has been pretty consistent Johnny2X2X Oct 2020 #10
Yes, very difficult to poll. FM123 Oct 2020 #11
Joe S. said he does not believe it but something is going on in Florida! Hopefully, helpisontheway Oct 2020 #8
Joe scum knows more than the pollsters Tribetime Oct 2020 #9
The poll you're referencing is a national poll, MontanaFarmer Oct 2020 #12
Actually, no. Scroll down the fivethirtyeight link in the OP and it shows two FL recent polls. hlthe2b Oct 2020 #14
No, it doesn't. MontanaFarmer Oct 2020 #19
No. Both polls are Florida-specific. I don't know how to explain it to you further hlthe2b Oct 2020 #20
The poll pdf doesnt say anything about Florida. honest.abe Oct 2020 #22
Click on the link to the fox poll. MontanaFarmer Oct 2020 #23
As an elementary school teacher here in Florida.... VanillaC Oct 2020 #13
Well said. Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #16
That's a shot across the bow. Baitball Blogger Oct 2020 #15
After reading all of the "Florida Man" posts Chainfire Oct 2020 #17
It is not a Florida poll kansasobama Oct 2020 #21
Correct, currently arguing with the OP MontanaFarmer Oct 2020 #25
This appears to be a national poll. honest.abe Oct 2020 #24
They didn't label it. MontanaFarmer Oct 2020 #26

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
1. 7 points?
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:53 AM
Oct 2020

jimfields33

(15,774 posts)
18. That would be incredibly great!
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:21 AM
Oct 2020

no election has been more then around 2 percent in decades regardless of party winning. This would be amazing!!!!!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
2. Woo hoo!
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:54 AM
Oct 2020

Johnny2X2X

(19,042 posts)
3. RVs. Their LV poll was +8
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:55 AM
Oct 2020

FIX has good polling. +8 is solid.

still_one

(92,138 posts)
6. Yes. You have to go into the data, and you are right
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:57 AM
Oct 2020

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
4. "margin of sampling error of 2.5 percentage points"
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:55 AM
Oct 2020

hlthe2b

(102,226 posts)
5. I honestly think Florida has become impossible to accurately poll.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:56 AM
Oct 2020

Encouraging, though it might be. Too volatile.

still_one

(92,138 posts)
7. I think the same applies to Pennsylvania also
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:58 AM
Oct 2020

Johnny2X2X

(19,042 posts)
10. FL has been pretty consistent
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:04 AM
Oct 2020

Throw out a couple right wing polls and Biden +2 to plus 5 has been really consistent.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
11. Yes, very difficult to poll.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:07 AM
Oct 2020

My personal experience has been encouraging though - lots of folks down here (South FL) that are sick of trump's Covid response are voting for Joe this election while still keeping their repub party affiliation. When we look at early voting/mail in ballot numbers by registered repubs, we don't really know who they voted for - could be Joe.

helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
8. Joe S. said he does not believe it but something is going on in Florida! Hopefully,
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 09:58 AM
Oct 2020

it is true and people will vote. I just remember Andrew G. being up in most polls and they ended up with Trump’s mini me. Good thing here is that so many people have already voted.

Tribetime

(4,685 posts)
9. Joe scum knows more than the pollsters
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:02 AM
Oct 2020

MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
12. The poll you're referencing is a national poll,
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:13 AM
Oct 2020

Not a poll of Florida.

hlthe2b

(102,226 posts)
14. Actually, no. Scroll down the fivethirtyeight link in the OP and it shows two FL recent polls.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:18 AM
Oct 2020

and the Fox poll is one of the two.

MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
19. No, it doesn't.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:33 AM
Oct 2020

The one above it does. The fox poll isn't labeled. Click the link to the poll, isn't it national?

hlthe2b

(102,226 posts)
20. No. Both polls are Florida-specific. I don't know how to explain it to you further
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:37 AM
Oct 2020

In the second link scroll down the President: General Election down to FL. Atlas and Fox results are listed; continue to the next line and you see a single VA-specific poll for Roanoke College.

honest.abe

(8,677 posts)
22. The poll pdf doesnt say anything about Florida.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:44 AM
Oct 2020

I think this is a national poll.

MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
23. Click on the link to the fox poll.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:45 AM
Oct 2020

It clearly says national. It is not a poll of florida. It's right underneath atlas in the list, and atlas polled florida, but the fox poll does not have a state denoted. If you click on "fox News" it takes you to the report on the poll, which says "national sample."

VanillaC

(72 posts)
13. As an elementary school teacher here in Florida....
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:14 AM
Oct 2020

this is promising news. We need to win Florida. I mean, I understand that the state is not needed as a win to get Joe Biden elected, but for me personally - WE NEED TO WIN FLORIDA. Oh gosh. May it happen. Hoping to kick out this butt of a joke governor next. Cases are on the rise here but hey, let's talk about bringing students back to the classroom at 100% and throw out mask mandates too! Such a jerk and a fool.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
16. Well said.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:19 AM
Oct 2020

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
15. That's a shot across the bow.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:18 AM
Oct 2020

So, not within 3%, so harder to steal.

Chainfire

(17,530 posts)
17. After reading all of the "Florida Man" posts
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:21 AM
Oct 2020

do you think that anyone is capable of predicting what Florida will do?

kansasobama

(609 posts)
21. It is not a Florida poll
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:40 AM
Oct 2020

Not to mention, it is impossible. To be frank, if Miami Dade sits on their butts, despite the polls it is lost cause.

People have to vote to win.

MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
25. Correct, currently arguing with the OP
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:46 AM
Oct 2020

upthread. It was somewhat confusing in the 538 list, as it was slotted right under the atlas poll, but definitely a national poll.

honest.abe

(8,677 posts)
24. This appears to be a national poll.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:45 AM
Oct 2020

It looks like 538 mislabeled it on their website as Florida.

From the poll:

Interviews were conducted October 27-29, 2020 among a random national sample of 1,318
registered voters (RV).

MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
26. They didn't label it.
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 10:48 AM
Oct 2020

It's right under the atlas poll of florida, but that list just puts them in the order they were released.

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