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[SheltieLover]

1. Check this out, V!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214403121

And he just stranded thousands again.

[vercetti2021]

4. Oh FFS

What is it gonna take to convince people that he doesn't care about them?

[SheltieLover]

20. Ikr!

And dumb fucks will likely vote for him.

[vercetti2021]

21. Same ones who will get sick

Oh well

[SheltieLover]

69. Ikr!

It sure would be nice if the virus could be selective in whom it infects.

[Blue_true]

46. He could spray all of them with his shit shot down from Marine One and they would

crawl over vipers to vote for him. Ignore them, they are hopeless.

[alittlelark]

2. I think 99.5 % of us r fine

Deep Breathing is very effective..............

[vercetti2021]

5. I hope so

Doom posting is pissing me off. I trash them but two pop up in their place

[Piasladic]

32. It's because we're scared

We lived through '16. No DU and had to keep going to work. It was AWFUL.

so forgive us if we cry.

[vercetti2021]

33. That's fine I understand

I'm just more optimistic this time

[JonLP24]

78. I was overconfident in 2016

Now I'm willing to expect anything. There is a small chance Trump can win the EC but the odds are strongly in Biden's favor. I do agree Biden has better odds than Clinton had at this point but I won't be surprised by any outcome.

[cwydro]

62. What's funny is I've not noticed much doom posting.

But I’ve noticed a lot of these posts chastising the doom posters (which I seem to miss).

So you are actually bringing attention to them. Stop it..

[sandensea]

3. As Lawrence O'Donnell advised:

[Newest Reality]

8. Heheh...

A pessimist complains about the wind.

An optimist waits for it to change.

A realist adjusts the sails.

I live by that one and it works just fine.

[sandensea]

23. Well said.

[Marie Marie]

47. Yours is sage advice. The one I've always heard is:

An optimist is often disappointed where an pessimist is often pleasantly surprised. When I am feeling pessimistic, I keep the hope that I will be pleasantly surprised.

[lastlib]

51. a friend has a slogan he breaks out occasionally:

"Expect the worst--you'll never be disappointed."

If worst happens--well, you were expecting it so you should be prepared, no disappointment. If worst doesn't happen, you're better off than you expected, so that's gravy.

With Shitgibbon, I always expect the worst, and he never disappoints me. I expect nothing less on election day. But I think he's going to be the one disappointed.

[ecstatic]

50. That's a very unhelpful image. I clung to his words so tightly in 2016

He promised me there was NO WAY Hillary would lose. I held on to his words for dear life because I was so scared and, yes, panicked. It took at least 6 months for me to resume watching his show after that debacle.

[sandensea]

52. A little pessimism then: I strongly suspect Russian & Isreali hackers flipped the MI, PA & WI vote

It must have been a cinch, given the Bush-era read-and-write software-run tabulation machines they were using - designed by the likes of Diebold and the Uroseviches to be easily tampered with (by Repugs, for Repugs).

The prevailing attitude since then seems to be: let's not let anyone know, as it would "erode people's trust in the system."

Well meaning as that may be, that's not helping.

It's like the gambling addict juggling accounts so that the Mrs. won't find out and "lose faith" in him: it usually only leads to the problem getting worse.

Should, God willing, Joe be our next president, political reform should be second only on the agenda to a national Covid policy - and banning electronic voting/tabulation devices (as nearly all developed countries who've tried it have), priority one.

[ecstatic]

70. Good point. I agree 100%!!! nt

[sandensea]

72. Thank you.

One can only hope.

I'm sure Joe will try.

[Newest Reality]

6. Some folks here...

Some folks here will panic. Other's will be worrying or freaking out. The doom and gloom posts are obviously a projection of fear over something we can't control. I don't blame people for panicking since that's one way to react to it, among others.

I don't mind if people express that all here because I don't need to talk them out of it as a way to feel better vicariously. If you are calm and even minded, then it is not a big bother, but a reason to feel empathy and compassion.

I mean, consider the circumstances.

[vercetti2021]

12. I get it I do

But personally I wish people would relax and not worry

[Newest Reality]

13. Oh, me too.

It's nice to wish that.

Maybe some calmer responses to it might help that.

We can make it through this no matter what.

[MFM008]

7. one poll

from Iowa .
ONE MF POLL and everyone is shitting themselves.
I voted.
period.

[vercetti2021]

9. Exactly

I tossed that and the Senate one in the garbage.

[elleng]

10. Thanks.

'Election expert Nate Silver doesn't just think Democrats will eke out a win. He thinks we could end up with as much as a 10-SEAT MAJORITY in the Senate.'

(((Via e.mail.)))

[dhol82]

11. Sorry, not until November 4th.

[Demsrule86]

14. oops my mistake mean wrong OP...Mea Culpa

I agree! And the stupid poll has been disputed.

[brush]

15. Since when were we depending on Iowa anyway?

[brewens]

16. George Steinbrenner once said, "Never sit around discussing things rationally when the situation

calls for panic!" I suppose it's okay if it scares some into making sure they vote. I can't imagine it going well for Trump Tuesday. He has to be losing a shit ton of support over the outbreaks. How may republican medical personnel is he losing?

[Kablooie]

17. I'm confident that Biden will win.

But there's all the crap that will go on to try and reverse the election that I'm concerned about.
I'm sure it will be thrown to SCOTUS at some point and just hope that the justices actually do their job responsibly instead of ignoring the law to keep Republicans in power.

[marie999]

18. I'm like Mossad Director David, I like to add a little hashish to my weed.

Can't afford it here but used it in Turkey 50 years ago. $2 for a brick bigger than trump's hand.

[Generic Brad]

19. Unless you're Trump. That guy can panic!

I'm sleeping like a baby through the night. Then I see him tweeting nonsense the last two nights around 3:00 AM. Trump can't sleep because he knows in his bones it's over for him.

[ancianita]

42. haha ... nah, he's just checkin' in with Moscow.

[liberal_mama]

22. I can't help panicking, but I hope you are right

I'm going to try to relax. I might need a nerve pill.

[vercetti2021]

25. Who cares about betting?

For real

[tormadjax]

26. I got spanked for posting this n/t

[paleotn]

34. And rightly so...

because it's meaningless bullshit. Concern troll much?

[BainsBane]

31. the odds still favor Biden

People are voting against the odds because the payout is bigger.

[paleotn]

35. Thank you.

Exactly. Like going to the track and throwing a few bucks on a long shot or two.

[BainsBane]

29. The odds still favor Biden

People are voting against the odds because the payoff is bigger.

Currently, Biden is a -180 favorite while Trump is a +160 underdog, with BetOnline reporting that just under 70% of the handle has come in on Trump. While the money is backing a Trump repeat, Biden holds slight edge at 54% of total wagers.

[tormadjax]

30. TU

[SunSeeker]

39. As stated in your article, "Odds imply 66.7% chance Biden will win."

So what "it" are you saying is "real"?

[cwydro]

54. Pfft.

[BainsBane]

27. We don't need Iowa

It would be bonus state but isn't necessary for victory.

[vercetti2021]

28. Exactly!

I hope the Senate race there will be ok though

[paleotn]

36. One poll. So what?

Outlier, folks. I can show you a bunch of Trafalgar polls that show Biden trailing damn near everywhere. I can then show you polls by other organizations, from the same time period that show Biden leading by substantial margins. Averages, folks. Averages.

Lastly, Iowa is gravy. Biden doesn't need it to win. Donnie has far more ways to loose than Biden does. He needs the planets to align perfectly once again. It ain't happening, just like I ain't winning the mega millions.

[bringthePaine]

37. solid advice, and don't forget to pass the Dutchie...😬👍

[vercetti2021]

58. At this rate I'll need a big bag

For everyone

[sellitman]

38. Old Vine Zinfandel

Magic in my glass. 🥰

[BigmanPigman]

40. Some anxiety is healthy...

If you aren't nervous than you haven't been paying attention. Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

[vercetti2021]

41. I have enough of it

Can't add more. Seriously I can't add more

[moonscape]

53. Except I don't know how to prepare. If

things go off the rails, I’ll at least be able to look back fondly at the last few days of true optimism my unpreparedness allowed me.

[BigmanPigman]

64. I believe your subconscious

is well aware of the possible outcomes and you are probably more prepared than you think you are. I know what you mean though. I read the ending of a book first...so I can figure out what is going to happen and not be in for a shock and I like to know the endings of movies too. If I am watching one on TV I Google it and read the plot, especially the end, then I watch the film. I don't like emotionally draining and surprising conclusions.

[moonscape]

66. I'm so overloaded on stress hormones from

the last 4 years, waking up every morning confronted with a new point of despair, that now ... and during the rallying cry after Floyd .. are maybe the 2 times I have felt some relief.

So I’m gonna enjoy these days

[BigmanPigman]

67. Good for you...enjoy it while you can

and hopefully it will be just a warm-up to the real celebrating later in the week.

[James48]

43. I tried that.

It still didn’t help.

I can’t relax until I know next week whether or not The United States of America is going to continue to exist. That is pretty high on the priority list right now.

Let’s talk again next week.

[BruinDadd]

44. I suggest carbs. Specifically, cinnamon rolls. I've stocked up.

[Aussie105]

45. Oh, we are not panicking . . .

just concerned about our future, that is all.

The ones that are panicking are the Republicans, the ones dressed up as if they are going to war, sitting in their truck beds, waving the Trump flags.

It's an election, guys, not the start of a war. So chill, ok?

And if you really want to start a war, just remember there are plenty of legally sanctioned people out there who know that guns don't just make scary noises. Easy to recognize, they tend to wear police and army uniforms. And they know how to shoot straight.

[ecstatic]

48. Not until Biden is safely inaugurated on January 20, 2021

[Crunchy Frog]

49. Ummm, no.

I won't post anything panicky, but my personal emotions are not anyone else's to dictate.

[cwydro]

55. I agree.

So many pissy posts telling others how to think.

Wouldn’t have believed it here years ago, but here we are.

[vercetti2021]

56. I'm not telling others how to think

I'm telling people to relax. Seriously it's bad for their health. Idk why you really rail on me every time I post but I'm kinda tired of it

[cwydro]

61. Ignore is your friend.

I never use it because I couldn’t care less what others say.

It might work for you.

[vercetti2021]

57. And that's fine

I'm telling people to relax. Does no one good to panic

[NewsCenter28]

59. Now I can since the numbers seem to be holding up in PA

And MI+WI. Huge relief!

[vercetti2021]

60. Good!

Idgaf about Florida, Iowa or Ohio. MI, PA AND WI are our winners.

[Crunchy Frog]

63. No, you don't get to tell me to relax either.

You have no idea what any given individual may be going through. You don't know if someone has an anxiety disorder or other issue. You don't know what an individual's personal stake might be.

You have no idea what each of us is doing to try to cope. You're basically just lecturing a bunch of strangers about how they should manage their inner lives.

And your tone is so patronizing that it may simply add to someone's stress level.

I'll tell you one way that I've been coping. That's by putting overly annoying posters on Ignore. I'm just about to the point that I will no longer be able to see your sage advice. Oh my what a loss that would be.😱

[vercetti2021]

65. I wasn't trying to be rude okay?

I try to be as helpful and comforting as possible. And yeah do I know how people feel? I can sense it. I have big time anxiety, I have depression.

I never once gave off a tone of patronizing anyone other than to tell people to relax.

I know what's at stake as a transgender person. I know the goddamn stake and you coming and telling me im lecturing people strangers? No these people here are not strangers to me. They are my friends that I see always in constant worry and I want them to just take a step back and breath.

You wanna ignore me? Feel free. I won't lose any sleep over it. If anything you are the one coming off rude to me like I screamed at you

[cwydro]

71. Relax.

Oh my.

[MustLoveBeagles]

68. We're all on edge

This thread is a textbook example of that. I won't tell others what to post but I may need to avoid certain threads. Reading some of the negativity is bringing me down.

[Chasing Dreams]

73. Agreed. Especially the advice over HOW to relax...

it worked well for me last night! And voila, new polls this morning show that Iowa poll is quite the outlier!!!

[AwakeAtLast]

74. We've lived through too many stolen elections

We have earned the right to panic. We do not want ANYONE to get complacent!

[vercetti2021]

81. I don't think anyone is

People want this guy gone

[Autumn]

75. Yes you can stop panicking. Can we please discuss the election? I never would have thought DUers

would be so into censoring what people talk about.

[vercetti2021]

80. Censoring of the people

I'm not doing that I'm trying to tell people to relax

[USALiberal]

76. Very few are! Your post makes it worse! Nt

[cwydro]

79. Thank you.

I don’t know anyone panicking.

People are justifiably worried about the future of this country.

[Blue Owl]

77. K&R