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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsState polls underestimated Barack Obama's support by about three points in 2012
Not sure how many people are aware of that? https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/five-reasons-to-believe-2020-wont-be-a-2016-sequel/616896/
Lithos
(26,403 posts)The plus/minus has to do with how fired up and motivated one side is over the other. Dems were not motivated in 2016, Republicans were - so the numbers were wrong in our favor then. In 2012 and 2008, the Dems were much more motivated.
Quixote1818
(28,930 posts)However, Dems were more enthusiastic in 12 than in 16 where neither candidate was exciting anyone much:
Lithos
(26,403 posts)Was looking for this...
2012 had Obama in the incumbency which I think had an effect as well. Incumbency also affected 2004 as well.
I think we have sufficient enthusiasm, but not sure that it's as huge of an influencer as people think.
TheRealNorth
(9,478 posts)Because of all the hoops that some of us have to jump through and/or long lines we have to wait in.
Lithos
(26,403 posts)So, enthusiasm is the energy needed to overcome the barriers our Cons have created to remain in power.