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State polls underestimated Barack Obama's support by about three points in 2012 (Original Post) Quixote1818 Oct 2020 OP
Polls only estimate the "average" potential Lithos Oct 2020 #1
Republicans had the enthusiasm edge in 2012 Quixote1818 Nov 2020 #2
thank you Lithos Nov 2020 #3
Enthusiasm is probably more important for Democrats TheRealNorth Nov 2020 #4
I live in Texas Lithos Nov 2020 #5

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
1. Polls only estimate the "average" potential
Sat Oct 31, 2020, 11:59 PM
Oct 2020

The plus/minus has to do with how fired up and motivated one side is over the other. Dems were not motivated in 2016, Republicans were - so the numbers were wrong in our favor then. In 2012 and 2008, the Dems were much more motivated.



Quixote1818

(28,930 posts)
2. Republicans had the enthusiasm edge in 2012
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 12:05 AM
Nov 2020

However, Dems were more enthusiastic in 12 than in 16 where neither candidate was exciting anyone much:

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
3. thank you
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 12:57 AM
Nov 2020

Was looking for this...

2012 had Obama in the incumbency which I think had an effect as well. Incumbency also affected 2004 as well.

I think we have sufficient enthusiasm, but not sure that it's as huge of an influencer as people think.

TheRealNorth

(9,478 posts)
4. Enthusiasm is probably more important for Democrats
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:28 AM
Nov 2020

Because of all the hoops that some of us have to jump through and/or long lines we have to wait in.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
5. I live in Texas
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:30 AM
Nov 2020

So, enthusiasm is the energy needed to overcome the barriers our Cons have created to remain in power.

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