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(85,986 posts)
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:24 AM Nov 2020

Lev Parnas' 19-year-old law student son writes tell-all

Natasha Bertrand @NatashaBertrand 14m
New: As Giuliani dug for dirt on Biden, waged shadow diplomatic campaigns in Venezuela and Turkey, and spoke regularly to Trump about all of it, a 19-year-old law student was quietly watching and soaking it all in—and he’s now written a new tell-all: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/01/lev-parnas-son-trump-tell-all-433790




The saga of Lev Parnas, a close former Giuliani associate and fixer, is familiar by now: Parnas helped Giuliani investigate Joe Biden and his son Hunter’s dealings in Ukraine, an endeavor that ultimately led to the president’s impeachment.

Unknown until this week, however, was that Parnas’ son Aaron was present for much of it. And he has now written an eyewitness account of many of the backchannel dealings conducted by Giuliani and a small group of his confidants to help their clients — chief among them the president of the United States.

“I had no intention of writing this book before a few weeks ago,” the younger Parnas, who recently graduated from George Washington University Law School in D.C., said in an interview. “But after I finished the bar exam, I began thinking about how young Republicans and young people in general often feel like they don't have a place in the political system and might not want to vote. So I thought if they were able to see what I saw — maybe it would help them make a decision.”

The 153-page memoir, titled “TRUMP FIRST: How the President and his associates turned their backs on me and my family,” traces Parnas’ journey from an enthusiastic Trump supporter in 2016 — he even volunteered for the campaign in Florida — to an eager Biden voter in 2020.

read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/01/lev-parnas-son-trump-tell-all-433790

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Lev Parnas' 19-year-old law student son writes tell-all (Original Post) bigtree Nov 2020 OP
He graduated from law school at 19? PCIntern Nov 2020 #1
It just says he's a law student, not that he has graduated n/t Silent3 Nov 2020 #3
It says he graduated MissB Nov 2020 #7
The article also said he passed the bar exam. Texin Nov 2020 #13
21 to be admitted to the bar Klaralven Nov 2020 #15
Nope. Don't know where you are getting that from Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #23
Teen with FAU degree and presidential aspirations heads to law school Klaralven Nov 2020 #25
There is some logic behind 18 Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #26
It says he took the bar exam. Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #21
I think he was 19 in 2015 or 2016. GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #8
read this from 2017 bigtree Nov 2020 #9
Wow, at 18 this young man simultaneoulsy got high school diploma and Bachelor's degree.! iluvtennis Nov 2020 #17
At first, I read it like that as well. MoonchildCA Nov 2020 #32
Interesting: Mike 03 Nov 2020 #2
Always bothers me that "Enthusiastic Trump supporter in 2016," plimsoll Nov 2020 #4
I totally agree! It was known in 2015 what a corrupt, sleazeball con man he was! liberalla Nov 2020 #29
Well, one has to wonder, if Trump hadn't "turned his back" Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #30
I think people like Parnas and Michael Cohen are those that want Fame JI7 Nov 2020 #31
Parnas Jr. "trumps" Claudia Conway. no_hypocrisy Nov 2020 #5
Rachel Maddow would probably love to read the book. She had Lev Parnas & Igor Fruman on Illumination Nov 2020 #6
Anyone buying the kindle copy? KewlKat Nov 2020 #10
Free on Kindle unlimited Klaralven Nov 2020 #14
I didn't take advantage of it... reACTIONary Nov 2020 #16
tRump's campaign logo should be a sieve Hip2bSquare Nov 2020 #11
The level of stupidity amongst the RUMP minions is NoMoreRepugs Nov 2020 #12
As I Read the Article, It Really Gave Me Hope for the Younger Generation. panfluteman Nov 2020 #18
It would have been nice to publish this earlier. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #19
not for the election bigtree Nov 2020 #22
Derp State NBachers Nov 2020 #20
Rudy should take a long walk off a short pier. For America, of course. Baked Potato Nov 2020 #24
K&R Blue Owl Nov 2020 #27
Wow! ".. to an eager Biden voter in 2020." Cha Nov 2020 #28

PCIntern

(25,518 posts)
1. He graduated from law school at 19?
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:59 AM
Nov 2020

Holy crap. That’s five or six years ahead of conventional promotion.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
13. The article also said he passed the bar exam.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:37 AM
Nov 2020

He not only graduated from law school, he managed to get his bar license. What isn't clear is whether he is still nineteen or was that age in 2019, which is the timeframe that he writes about in his memoir. He may be over 20 or 21 by now. Still -- he's awfully young. Quite an accomplishment.

Ms. Toad

(34,059 posts)
23. Nope. Don't know where you are getting that from
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 12:51 PM
Nov 2020

But, at best, it would be true on a state by state basis, since each state makes their own rules. I am not specifically aware of any jurisdiction with such rule - and bar admission is a large part of my job.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
25. Teen with FAU degree and presidential aspirations heads to law school
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:12 PM
Nov 2020
You get the feeling that if he could get his law degree in one year instead of three, he would do that. It turns out the one thing that can slow Parnas down is the law.

“The minimum age to take the bar is 21,” he said. “So I have to wait three years anyway.”


https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/local/teen-with-fau-degree-and-presidential-aspirations-heads-law-school/5Tj0jHwkKAF1yOQkMNbzgM/

It didn't say what jurisdiction he was targeting. Couldn't find much on line about minimum age to take the exam, but Texas has an 18 age limit for licensing.

There is an old article from 1988 about a 21 year limit in New York, but I couldn't find a current article. https://www.nytimes.com/1988/08/20/nyregion/lawyer-19-must-wait-for-the-bar.html

Ms. Toad

(34,059 posts)
26. There is some logic behind 18
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 02:45 PM
Nov 2020

Since contracts entered into by minors are voidable, unless for necessities. It would be challenging to practice law without entering into contracts, and allowing one who can't be bound by that contract to enter a profession that largely requires contracts would not be in the best interests of the public.

Pretty sure none of my students are under 21, so it isn't something that would come up much. But rules vary considerably from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, so it certainly isn't true across the board.

Ms. Toad

(34,059 posts)
21. It says he took the bar exam.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 12:47 PM
Nov 2020

Because of COVID 19, most results aren't known yet. It doesn't say which bar exam he took, but many took the bar exam on October 3& 4, which would fit with the description of "a few weeks ago."

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
8. I think he was 19 in 2015 or 2016.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:11 AM
Nov 2020

Which would make him around 24 now. Still ahead of the curve, maybe, but nowhere nearly that much.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
9. read this from 2017
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:14 AM
Nov 2020
Teen with FAU degree and presidential aspirations heads to law school

By his own account, Aaron Parnas was just a “normal high schooler.” He got his work done. He did what he needed to do to graduate and he had a “life like any other high school kid.”

Except for the fact that when he graduated from Florida Atlantic University High School, he did so with a 5.4 weighted GPA.

He also didn’t officially graduate from high school until after he had already graduated from college, receiving his bachelor’s degree from FAU with a 3.9 GPA and magna cum laude honors. And he wants to be president of the United States.


So, at the age of 18, Parnas is headed to law school at George Washington University this fall. The plan is to finish his studies in three years and then, at age 21, take the bar exam and head into corporate law, mergers and acquisitions.

Listening to Parnas talk about his plans, it almost seems like they are already completed. But that’s the confidence that comes with a person who, as a senior in high school, wrote an honors senior thesis examining the way capital punishment influences homicide rates in various countries around the world. That thesis allowed him to be one of 10 FAU graduates this year to receive a special honors distinction on their bachelor’s degree.

You get the feeling that if he could get his law degree in one year instead of three, he would do that. It turns out the one thing that can slow Parnas down is the law.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/local/teen-with-fau-degree-and-presidential-aspirations-heads-law-school/5Tj0jHwkKAF1yOQkMNbzgM/

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
32. At first, I read it like that as well.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:20 AM
Nov 2020

But it says he was in on the conversation and meetings when he was 19.
They took place a couple years ago.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
2. Interesting:
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:04 AM
Nov 2020
In all, Parnas—an aspiring lawyer who told the Palm Beach Post in a 2017 profile that “one day I hope to be president of the United States”—says he attended “dozens of meetings” over less than two years with his father, Giuliani and the rest of the BLT Prime Team, as he says they called themselves. The team included Fruman, conservative lawyers Victoria Toensing and Joe diGenova, and conservative columnist John Solomon.

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
4. Always bothers me that "Enthusiastic Trump supporter in 2016,"
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:09 AM
Nov 2020

Couldn’t see what trump was. We haven’t seen anything we didn’t know in 2016, everything he’s done was entirely predictable. I’m glad they’ve come to their senses, but let’s be blunt, needing to be hit upside the head with a 2x4 should not be required to convince one that pain is painful.

Pro tip don’t employ a firm a legal firm that has a Parnas, and check the JD, GW is sounding more and more like a diploma mill.

liberalla

(9,234 posts)
29. I totally agree! It was known in 2015 what a corrupt, sleazeball con man he was!
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 06:03 PM
Nov 2020

No big secret! They did no vetting on the man. It was all there to be known if anyone cared.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
30. Well, one has to wonder, if Trump hadn't "turned his back"
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 07:04 PM
Nov 2020

on the Parnas family, if they'd still be Trump supporters.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
31. I think people like Parnas and Michael Cohen are those that want Fame
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 07:08 PM
Nov 2020

They want to be seen as part of the "cool crowd".

They want to feel like famous people like them and when they do as Trump did with turning on them or denying they knew them they feel bad.

The same with that woman that wrote the Melania and me book.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
16. I didn't take advantage of it...
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:43 AM
Nov 2020

.... but it looks like you can read it on line, using the link from the politico article. You have to "sign up"and I'm not going to do that myself. But FYI here is the link:

https://aaronparnas.com/optin1603841394197

Hip2bSquare

(291 posts)
11. tRump's campaign logo should be a sieve
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:20 AM
Nov 2020

Thank goodness for these brave souls. A few more days...hopefully we can look at all this through the rear view window.

Until then, may the leaks continue!

panfluteman

(2,065 posts)
18. As I Read the Article, It Really Gave Me Hope for the Younger Generation.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:58 AM
Nov 2020

Aaron Parnas seems like a really intelligent and promising young lawyer, a guy who will really go far, and - who knows? - may even become president someday. Our country needs more young people like him, who are willing to speak the truth in an age of lies and disinformation campaigns.

I am eagerly looking forward to his book when it comes out. This will definitely be a unique and valuable addition to the "second Trump Tower" of tell all books, which may now be rivaling the original Trump Tower in its height and stature.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
19. It would have been nice to publish this earlier.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 12:42 PM
Nov 2020

This isn't going to have the reach and effect that it might have. I get that he was probably insanely busy up till then, but still...

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
22. not for the election
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 12:50 PM
Nov 2020

...but when he loses or improbably wins, Trump's going to need checking in the post-election straddle to the inaguration.

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