Trump's planning on declaring victory Tuesday night if he's ahead-Axios

[octoberlib]

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President Trump has told confidants he'll declare victory on Tuesday night if it looks like he's "ahead," according to three sources familiar with his private comments.

That's even if the Electoral College outcome still hinges on large numbers of uncounted votes in key states like Pennsylvania.
Behind the scenes: Trump has privately talked through this scenario in some detail in the last few weeks, describing plans to walk up to a podium on election night and declare he has won.

For this to happen, his allies expect he would need to either win or have commanding leads in Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, Texas, Iowa, Arizona and Georgia.
Why it matters: Trump's team is preparing to falsely claim that mail-in ballots counted after Nov. 3 — a legitimate count expected to favor Democrats — are evidence of election fraud.

Details: Many prognosticators say that on election night, Trump will likely appear ahead in Pennsylvania — though the state's final outcome could change substantially as mail-in ballots are counted over the following days. Trump's team is preparing to claim baselessly that if that process changes the outcome in Pennsylvania from the picture on election night, then Democrats would have "stolen" the election.

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Fuck this asshole.

[Skittles]

1. what has Putin told him?

[leftofthestorm]

2. Of course he is going to even if he doesn't win on Tuesday nt

[wryter2000]

3. What if

He gave a victory speech and no one covered it?

I know...never happen. But it would be sweet.

[Walleye]

4. He was also planning on the virus being gone by April.

[Demovictory9]

5. Lol..ok

[Thomas Hurt]

6. He has already declared victory several times...hasn't he?

[wcmagumba]

7. This giant walking fecal matter pile can "declare" anything he wants...doesn't make it so....

[TheRealNorth]

11. That don't matter

his goons with guns will see that they are no longer on "stand by"

[beachbumbob]

8. not going to happen

[Claustrum]

9. I don't doubt that Trump will want to do that.

But if none of the MSM calls enough states for any candidate to reach 270, no one would be declared "president-elect". He can't just declare himself the winner even if he is ahead 10 points in PA, as long as no media calls PA or any other battleground close states for him.

If he is at 200 EC votes and ahead in 4 states, he still can't declare himself the winner as long as no MSM calling those states for him.

[octoberlib]

17. Very good point.

[Sogo]

23. Keep in mind,

even the mainstream media calling races is NOT official. They can go back and forth (remember FL 2000?).

The Secretary of State in each state has to certify the state's vote count before the race is final in a state.

[marybourg]

30. This is the ONLY thing that matters.

Neither tRump nor the msm decide on the winner. They can each “declare” all day long to no legal effect.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

10. Of course he is. nt

[BusyBeingBest]

12. I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!!!

He's like a sinister Michael Scott.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

13. He apparently doesn't understand that the actual votes matter.

Plus, he won't be ahead in a significant way on Tuesday.

[LisaL]

14. What is he going to do if he is behind?

NT

[Renew Deal]

15. This reminds me of how the Falcons beat the Patriots.

[octoberlib]

18. Lol!

[OneBlueDotBama]

16. Trump can declare himself....

the winner, the Queen of England, or almighty trump, the ruler of the world.

Thing is, after five years of his non stop bullshit, no one except for sean hannity will be listening.

[world wide wally]

19. He will do whatever it takes to get the election into the hands of his stacked Supreme Court.

That is why the handmaiden wouldn't answer the question during her hearing.

[SoonerPride]

20. He can declare anything he wants.

He can declare he weighs 185 pounds.

It doesn’t make it so.

I don’t give a flying fuck what he declares.

[coti]

21. But in all seriousness, Biden doesn't need PA

https://democraticunderground.com/100214402168

[napi21]

22. I'm hoping Joe's votes will make that impossibe! Many States will be including the early & MI votes

with their totals on Tuesday, so a possible DT big lead is unlikely!

[Solly Mack]

24. By declaring himself the winner, he hopes to suppress the vote in the west

- people might say "Why bother?", if he's already won.

Not saying they will. Saying they could.

Also, once he declares, he'll frame any further vote counting as unnecessary and cheating. An attempt to steal the election. Projection, of course.

That's when his lawyers will step in and try and stop the count all over. Attacking mail-in ballots of all types (absentee and otherwise).

They claim irregularities at polling places that harm them. They'll claim polling places are staying open illegally.

They will continue to harass voters from now until November 3rd to help suppress the vote and pretend there was trouble at polling places, neglecting the fact that they are the ones causing any problems.

This isn't doom and gloom. This is recognizing the fact that Trump cheats at everything and the fact that Republicans don't have a problem stealing an election.

I think Biden will win - but that doesn't mean Trump won't try to steal it anyway.

[regnaD kciN]

29. Not sure which part of "the west" you're thinking of...

...but all of the west coast states either have had most of their votes cast early or by mail, or are mail-in only. Declaring anything by even the minute most polls close in the east (5 P.M. Pacific Time) is unlikely to have much of an effect there. Plus, they're all deep-blue states where Trump has no chance of even coming within high single-digits of Biden anyway.

[Solly Mack]

35. You're right. I was thinking about time differences and polls closing only and not about

how the majority of votes come in and are counted as they do.

Thanks!

[TeamPooka]

25. He's not going to be ahead anywhere.

[regnaD kciN]

31. I fear you're wrong there...

I thoroughly expect Trump to have a large lead in PA, and smaller ones in WI and MI, by the early-morning hours of Wednesday.

But it won't last.

And a lot of responsibility is going to have to fall on networks and other media to continually remind the public of how many ballots remain uncounted in those states, and that they're nowhere near ready to be called for either candidate.

[Make7]

26. Trump: 'No Regrets' Over Twitter Meltdown [Election night 2012]

You’ve no doubt heard by now that Tuesday night on Twitter, Donald Trump called the re-election of Barack Obama a travesty, a total sham, a disgusting injustice. He also urged Americans to march on Washington. Earlier, he warned people to make sure their votes weren’t stolen, and he described global warming as “a concept created by and for the Chinese to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.”

On Wednesday, he took on NBC News anchor Brian Williams, who said on air: “Donald Trump, who has driven well past the last exit to relevance and veered into something closer to irresponsible here, is tweeting tonight.”

A sampling of Trump’s taunting comments so far makes for some exciting reading. There’s this: “Brian, if I’m ‘well past the last exit to relevance’ how come you spent so much time reading my tweets last night?” And this: “Brian—Thanks dummy—I picked up 70,000 twitter followers yesterday alone. Cable News just passed you in the ratings.” And this: “Wouldn’t you love to have my ratings?” An NBC spokeswoman had no immediate comment on Trump’s tweets.

Which brings us to the main point about Trump: He’s always the main point. I reached him by phone this morning at his Manhattan office to see what the response had been ...

“The fact is that there’s a large group of people who like Donald Trump and what Donald Trump says,” says Donald Trump. “I have no regrets.” He has deleted some of his tweets, though. He says that’s because he was reacting when it seemed that Obama had won the Electoral College vote but not the popular vote. That’s right around the time that Republican strategist Karl Rove, on Fox News, began challenging Fox’s decision to call the election for Obama.

···

And Trump, by mid-day, seemed to be taking a different approach. “This was the Republicans’ election to win but they just blew it—reasons why to follow,” reads one tweet. And: “Our country is totally split right now but someday it will come together!”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-11-07/trump-no-regrets-over-twitter-meltdown

I'm not convinced Trump even knows how our election system works.

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[Proud Liberal Dem]

27. This reminds me of Bush 2000

Except this time, not only do we know that it's going to happen, his credibility is damaged so far beyond belief and he's telegraphing everything like crazy right now, hopefully, most people will shrug it off and the media refuses to cover it and/or follow suit unless they have some independent confirmation. If Florida or Texas falls (to Biden) early on though, it will be lights out though and everybody knows it.

[KT2000]

28. Yes - he is counting on

Bush V Gore to bail him out. Kavanaugh already tried to turn it into precedent and which conservative judges will follow? Barret for one.

[KentuckyWoman]

32. He can declare himself Queen Victoria for all I care.

It ain't over until either the Electoral College meets and the vote is certified.

[BlueNProud]

33. Or behind.

[tinrobot]

34. He also declared that the pandemic is over and he's immune to covid.

Who cares what he says. The voters decide.

[lindysalsagal]

36. Why would he suddenly stop lying, just because it's election night?

We're all bored w his crap.