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Nevilledog

(51,069 posts)
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 08:10 PM Nov 2020

Dan Rather: Can you even begin to imagine what would happen if these caravans...



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Can you even begin to imagine what would happen if these caravans were made up of Black people? The thought experiment is the very definition of systemic racism and White privilege.
5:07 PM · Nov 1, 2020
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Dan Rather: Can you even begin to imagine what would happen if these caravans... (Original Post) Nevilledog Nov 2020 OP
Good point. Or, if these were of latin american descent, or anything else too? Just like the ... SWBTATTReg Nov 2020 #1
From the horror movie........... MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 #3
Dan Rather is spot on again. brush Nov 2020 #2
WOW bluestarone Nov 2020 #4
I don't have to imagine because I know about the Freedom Riders in 1961. intheflow Nov 2020 #5
This is what has already happened. Ford_Prefect Nov 2020 #23
2 sets of rules - STILL. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2020 #6
Very much so. We have moved back a lot in four years. And it wasn't that good before that. Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #15
Fux Newz demanding 24/7 that Apache Gun Ships patrol highways to obliterate the caravans? WyattKansas Nov 2020 #7
No police escort, for sure. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #8
Dan Rather hits the nail right on the head AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #9
We don't have to imagine gratuitous Nov 2020 #10
We have bdamomma Nov 2020 #11
Domestic terrorists SledDriver Nov 2020 #12
No it's not. Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #16
Don't be silly -- they have COMPLETELY different flags ! Anyone can see that ! nt eppur_se_muova Nov 2020 #25
At least they had the incentive to create their own flag LiberalLovinLug Nov 2020 #35
While I don't agree with ISIS one bit, one has to assume its members have endured a lot of violence, Neema Nov 2020 #39
Yeah, we've seen some of that action Cha Nov 2020 #13
Sort of depends on the circumstances Klaralven Nov 2020 #14
While I don't necessarily agree with the tactic LisaM Nov 2020 #17
Is there any evidence that they were reckless? Klaralven Nov 2020 #18
They hit a car and terrified the people in the bus. LisaM Nov 2020 #20
I was thinking about the Garden State Parkway and Mario Cuomo Bridge blockages. Klaralven Nov 2020 #29
The difference being one group protests against injustice and the other intheflow Nov 2020 #26
All protests involve fear and intimidation. There would be no point otherwise. Klaralven Nov 2020 #27
All protests DO NOT involve fear and intimidation! intheflow Nov 2020 #30
How is power disrupted, other than by fear and intimidation? Klaralven Nov 2020 #31
You're really scared by peaceful protests, aren't you? intheflow Nov 2020 #34
That is not true. KentuckyWoman Nov 2020 #32
Don't call them caravans, they're domestic terrorist intimidation. Fla Dem Nov 2020 #19
Driving around with your SUV decorated is a parade. KentuckyWoman Nov 2020 #33
Kick dalton99a Nov 2020 #21
K&R Blue Owl Nov 2020 #22
Well, look what happened to black people who tried to MARCH to the polls -- no guns, no trucks -- eppur_se_muova Nov 2020 #24
Little kids and the disabled too. It was disgusting. I'm seething about it. Neema Nov 2020 #37
true this llashram Nov 2020 #28
BLM marches shut down some highways and roads here in LA and everyone was arrested TeamPooka Nov 2020 #36
Can we send them to the border and not let them stop? Brainfodder Nov 2020 #38

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
1. Good point. Or, if these were of latin american descent, or anything else too? Just like the ...
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 08:14 PM
Nov 2020

caravans that trump made a big how to do that were supposedly approaching the US borders from the Mexican side of the border. Same effect. Mr. Rather makes a very on the nail head observation.

Ford_Prefect

(7,882 posts)
23. This is what has already happened.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:23 AM
Nov 2020

The grand-children of those who attacked the Freedom buses are driving the flag-waving pickups, or giving them uniformed escort, while following the family traditions of racist oppression.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
7. Fux Newz demanding 24/7 that Apache Gun Ships patrol highways to obliterate the caravans?
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 09:13 PM
Nov 2020

Yes, Republicans are all that unstable and nuts.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. We don't have to imagine
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 09:28 PM
Nov 2020

In Portland, peaceful demonstrators downtown were targets for vehicles driven by both the police and right wing domestic terrorists. They were gassed, shot with "less lethal" rounds, beaten with batons, and scooped up in unmarked vans by nameless law enforcement personnel.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,171 posts)
35. At least they had the incentive to create their own flag
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 02:48 PM
Nov 2020

And not just appropriate another one and claim it represents them.

Neema

(1,151 posts)
39. While I don't agree with ISIS one bit, one has to assume its members have endured a lot of violence,
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:14 PM
Nov 2020

strife and hardship. What the fuck are the MAGAs even protesting? Their butthurt that they can't use the N word in public?

Cha

(297,133 posts)
13. Yeah, we've seen some of that action
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 09:56 PM
Nov 2020

and it's been ugly by the police.

They'd better make these Maggot Morons pay for their crimes.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
14. Sort of depends on the circumstances
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:01 PM
Nov 2020

Demonstrators Close Down I-94 In St. Paul In Protest Of Breonna Taylor’s Death
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/09/23/the-whole-thing-is-just-a-mess-minnesotans-speak-out-after-indictment-in-breonna-taylors-death/

Protesters shut down I-35W in Minneapolis during rush hour; 41 arrested
https://www.startribune.com/protesters-block-i-35w-in-minneapolis/386622281/

The Brooklyn Bridge is shut down by protesters fairly regularly. It is not an Interstate, but it connects I-278 with Manhattan.

Blocking highways has become a fairly conventional protest tactic.

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
17. While I don't necessarily agree with the tactic
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:06 PM
Nov 2020

I don't think it's quite the same. Reckless driving can cause serious accidents and death.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
18. Is there any evidence that they were reckless?
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:12 PM
Nov 2020

A few dozen cars driving across all lanes at a few mph isn't particularly reckless.

intheflow

(28,462 posts)
26. The difference being one group protests against injustice and the other
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:45 AM
Nov 2020

protests in favor of injustices. The left's protests are nonviolent. The right uses fear and intimidation. You can't equate the actions because both the aims and the intent are miles apart.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
27. All protests involve fear and intimidation. There would be no point otherwise.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:06 AM
Nov 2020

If a protest were held somewhere that did not bother people, an abandoned mall parking lot, for example, it wouldn't get covered by the media and nobody would care.

intheflow

(28,462 posts)
30. All protests DO NOT involve fear and intimidation!
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:56 AM
Nov 2020

Bridge/road blocks by the left are not led by people wielding guns. When peaceful protesters block a road it is to raise awareness, to disrupt power. That is in no way the same tactic as using fear and intimidation.

intheflow

(28,462 posts)
34. You're really scared by peaceful protests, aren't you?
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 01:52 PM
Nov 2020

I've been peacefully protesting for 35 years, the only fear I've ever felt was from the police and other racists/warmongers who opposed us. GTFO with your wildly distorted and unsubstantiated views.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
32. That is not true.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:42 PM
Nov 2020

Sitting at a lunch counter minding your own business is not fear and intimidation. Walking down the street with a sign is not fear and intimidation. Encouraging people to look at their own wrongness is not intimidation. Demanding justice is not intimidation.

They provoked yes. But fear and intimidate, no.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
33. Driving around with your SUV decorated is a parade.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:45 PM
Nov 2020

Impeding traffic, aggressive driving, and flashing guns is intimidation.

If it's just MAGA pride then leave the damn guns at home and obey the traffic laws. Don't drive aggressive. But ... no...

They ARE terrorizing people. Not because of the Trump decor. That just makes them stupid.

eppur_se_muova

(36,258 posts)
24. Well, look what happened to black people who tried to MARCH to the polls -- no guns, no trucks --
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:23 AM
Nov 2020

all they brought was prayer. And cops considered them enough of a threat to pepper-spray them.

Neema

(1,151 posts)
37. Little kids and the disabled too. It was disgusting. I'm seething about it.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:12 PM
Nov 2020

Someone tried to help a woman in a wheelchair who was having a seizure due to the pepper spray and they got gassed too, just trying to retrieve her wheelchair.

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