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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 09:12 PM Nov 2020

No need to watch the returns Tuesday, this is how it'll go down.

Hello.

For you old timers out there, you'll remember my calling the election mere days before the results (2008 and 2012). I did not do 2016 because I honestly didn't know what to make of the election and I didn't want to taint my 2-0 record.

But I'm gonna go all out on this and risk that undefeated record by giving you election night returns.

If you'd like, you can view my past election prediction posts here:

2008

2012

No jinx - no bravado. Just fun.

And off we go...

7:00 Eastern:

Polls close in the following states:

Georgia
Indiana
Kentucky
South Carolina
Virginia
Vermont

Of course, the big prize of this hour will be Georgia and there will be A LOT of talk about Georgia - what the turnout is, a mix of phone and polling location exit polls and how vital this state will be to President Trump's reelection. We will not get a call, obviously, as the networks will claim it's too close to call.

Indiana and South Carolina will be categorized as 'too early to call' but with a Trump lead.

Kentucky will be called for Trump and Vermont for Biden.

Virginia will be categorized as 'too early to call' but with a Biden lead.

At 7:03, Trump has 8 electoral votes to Biden's 3.

Around 7:30, Indiana is called for Trump.

That gives Trump 19 electoral votes to Biden's 3.

At 7:30 Eastern, polls close in the following states:

North Carolina
Ohio
West Virginia

Trump is declared the winner in West Virginia.

North Carolina and Ohio will be classified as 'too close to call'.

Trump has 24 electoral votes to Biden's 3.

As we close in on 8:00, South Carolina is called for Trump - giving him 33 electoral votes to Biden's 3. Of course, it looks and feels like a lopsided Trump win but...

8:00 Eastern:

Polls close in the following states:

Alabama
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida
Illinois
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Mississippi
Missouri
New Hampshire
New Jersey
Oklahoma
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
Tennessee
Washington, D.C.

Trump is declared the winner in:

Alabama
Mississippi
Oklahoma
Tennessee

Biden is declared the winner in:

Connecticut
Delaware (HIS HOME STATE!)
Illinois
Maine (3 of 4 EV)
Maryland
Massachusetts
New Jersey
Rhode Island
Washington, D.C.

Florida, which has now been counting ballots for an hour (most the state closes at 7 but networks won't make any level of a projection until 8:00 when the panhandle closes at 8:00), is too close to call - as is Pennsylvania.

New Hampshire is 'too early to call' but with a Biden lead.

Missouri is 'too early to call' but with a Trump lead.

Biden has now taken the lead in the Electoral College: 78 to 66.

About an hour and a half after polls have closed, Virginia is called for Biden around 8:30 pm. That gives him 91 electoral votes.

The states that are either too early or too close to call at this hour:

Georgia
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Missouri
Florida
New Hampshire

As well as the 2nd Congressional District in Maine.

8:30 Eastern:

Arkansas closes and Trump is declared the winner.

Biden has 91 Electoral Votes to Trump's 72.

Right before 9:00, Missouri is called for Trump.

That gives him 82 Electoral Votes.

9:00 Eastern Time:

Polls have closed in the following states:

Arizona
Colorado
Kansas
Louisiana
Michigan
Minnesota
Nebraska
New Mexico
New York
North Dakota
South Dakota
Texas
Wisconsin
Wyoming

Trump is declared the winner in:

Kansas
Louisiana
Nebraska (4 of 5 EV)
North Dakota
South Dakota
Wyoming

Biden is declared the winner in:

New York

Minnesota, New Mexico and Colorado are 'too early to call' but with a Biden lead.

Arizona is too close to call.

Michigan is too close to call, but a good amount of the state will have already started as a chunk of the state's polls closed an hour prior (similar to Florida).

Wisconsin is too close to call.

Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District is 'too early to call' but with a Biden lead.

So, shortly after the 9:00 hour, Biden has 120 Electoral Votes and Trump has 109 - with 203 not yet called.

At this point, the election is going to start taking shape. Florida should mostly be in, I'd say around 80-90% counted, and there's going to be a narrative at play here - and we'll also see it in North Carolina and Georgia. It's at this hour that it becomes apparent Biden is winning where he needs to in Georgia and North Carolina but it's still too close to call in either state.

Biden is also strong in Ohio, though any lead he may have, built on the back of mail-in ballots, is iffy at best.

Steve Kornacki on MSNBC says, "I would much rather be in the Delaware camp right now than those sitting in the White House."

Trump tweets I AM WINNING BIG IN PENNSYLVANIA

He is not, in fact, winning big in Pennsylvania. In fact, in a twist, with Philadelphia and its suburbs, along with Alleghany County, reporting mail-in ballots at a faster than expected clip, Biden is actually staving off a red wave there.

But there's still uncertainty.
By 9:30 Eastern Time, Colorado is called for Biden. Shortly after, so is New Hampshire.

"Top Republicans admit that Donald Trump is not performing at the rate he needs to win 270 electoral votes, despite the President's claiming otherwise."

The betting markets have Biden a 90% chance of winning the presidency based on outstanding state totals.

10:00 Eastern:

Polls close in the following states:

Iowa
Montana
Nevada
Utah

Iowa is 'too close to call'.

Montana and Utah are 'too early to call' but with a Trump lead.

Nevada is 'too early to call' but with a Biden lead.

There are 211 Electoral Votes still not called (and that isn't even counting the 85 that are still being decided in states where polls haven't closed).

Biden leads 133 to Trump's 109.

Trump tweets: I WILL WIN!

Shortly after 10:00 Eastern Time, Biden is declared the winner in Minnesota and New Mexico. He's now at 148 Electoral Votes.

Right before poll close on the west coast, Trump is declared the winner in Utah.

11:00 Eastern:

Polls have closed in the following states:

California
Idaho
Oregon
Washington

Trump is declared the winner in Idaho.

Biden is declared the winner in:

California
Oregon
Washington

Biden is now at 222 Electoral Votes. Trump 119.

At 11:30 Eastern, we have a big call to make. North Carolina has gone for Joe Biden. Biden is also declared the winner in Nebraska's 2nd Congressional District. Netting him one vote.

Biden now has 238 Electoral Votes.

"The feeling in Delaware is very positive - they think they have the votes to win Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania," MSNBC announces.

"The Trump Team has gone quiet, refusing to grant any interviews to the media," FOX reports.

At 11:45, Montana is called for Trump.

Nevada then breaks for Biden.

Biden now has 244 Electoral Votes to Trump's 122.

12:00 Eastern

Polls have closed in Hawaii. Biden is declared the winner.

BREAKING: MICHIGAN HAS BEEN CALLED FOR JOE BIDEN.

Joe Biden is now six Electoral Votes away from the presidency - leading Trump 264 to 122.

12:10 Eastern Time:

WE HAVE A MAJOR PROJECTION TO MAKE:

Joe Biden has won the state of Wisconsin. With their 10 Electoral Votes, Joe Biden has surpassed the 270 needed to be projected the President-Elect of the United States.

Trump tweets: FAKE NEWS! NOT ALL THE VOTES HAVE BEEN COUNTED! HOW CAN THE MEDIA DECLARE BIDEN THE WINNER WHEN THERE ARE STILL VOTES LEFT TO BE COUNTED? FRAUD!

"Republicans are urging President Trump to concede to Joe Biden," reports ABC News. However, "the President is not expected to concede the results."

"Speaking with a Trump campaign official, they claim they will fight for the integrity of the election process and make sure every valid vote is counted and those invalid votes are tossed - this election is not over."

BIDEN TO SPEAK TO THE NATION AS TRUMP REFUSES TO CONCEDE

TRUMP, IN FRENZIED WHITE HOUSE SPEECH, CLAIMS BIDEN'S VICTORY MAY BE RESULT OF FRAUD, WILL INVESTIGATE IN COMING DAYS

At 12:45 Eastern, Biden is declared the winner in Georgia, giving him 290 Electoral Votes.

And that is where we'll leave it - with 123 Electoral Votes up for grabs.

Biden leads in Pennsylvania and Arizona. Trump barely leads in Ohio and Iowa, while Texas and Florida are too close to call.

It won't matter - Biden is the victor.

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No need to watch the returns Tuesday, this is how it'll go down. (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 OP
Sounds good to me. Whatever happened AkFemDem Nov 2020 #1
As a non Georgian AkFemDem Nov 2020 #2
Popping the champagne already! n/t moonscape Nov 2020 #86
As a Georgian, klook Nov 2020 #165
He says 12:45, Georgia called for Biden. Captain Zero Nov 2020 #27
Yay! AkFemDem Nov 2020 #36
Michigan DownriverDem Nov 2020 #157
michigan pamdb Nov 2020 #194
michigan pamdb Nov 2020 #195
Dang, it's like I was there! AleksS Nov 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Catcar Nov 2020 #4
sounds perfect!!!!! Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #5
I feel like I just read TxDemChem Nov 2020 #6
me too thanks I needed that ace3csusm Nov 2020 #74
We'll see how this shakes out on Tuesday MustLoveBeagles Nov 2020 #7
Great fun, thanks! nt babylonsister Nov 2020 #8
Bookmarking this Ananda62 Nov 2020 #9
Bookmarked! gristy Nov 2020 #10
Now I need a smoke. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2020 #11
"This isn't a hospital! It's an insane asylum!" louis-t Nov 2020 #162
Bookmarked! This will make it more fun. JohnnyLib2 Nov 2020 #12
PA & MI won't be called to Wednesday Trenzalore Nov 2020 #13
MI passed a law this year allowing counties with populations bigger than 25,000 to start processing Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #21
Did you see 60 Minutes sun night? NJCher Nov 2020 #116
Arizona will have a lot of ballots counted... Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #119
I think Philadelphia is going to report as much as it can as fast as it can WSHazel Nov 2020 #85
That was intense. crickets Nov 2020 #14
I think you'll be right. C_U_L8R Nov 2020 #15
12:10am is perfect re: its tweet Roland99 Nov 2020 #16
And I bet this becomes the most bookmarked thread ever at DU! Roland99 Nov 2020 #17
Wow bdamomma Nov 2020 #18
Shit - so was I. calimary Nov 2020 #40
Bookmarked. :) TwilightZone Nov 2020 #19
Please, please, please crow as soon as you are proven correct Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #20
Brilliant, D.I. Very entertaining. Thanks for doing this. brush Nov 2020 #22
Nope. MI and Wi will be called for Biden by 11:00 Eastern. My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #23
Thanks for the well-thought-out projection. Encouraging. Nitram Nov 2020 #24
9:00 AM Eastern, dem4decades pops a bottle of champagne with his wife. dem4decades Nov 2020 #25
Thank you for assuring me in advance, if Biden is down 33 to 3 Mr. Ected Nov 2020 #26
If it goes like this so will buy you a bottle of scotch SoonerPride Nov 2020 #28
love it! samnsara Nov 2020 #29
That was very enjoyable! Thank you! liberalla Nov 2020 #30
AND not to mention, but Biden will have a HUGE popular vote victory. Captain Zero Nov 2020 #31
Impressive ! Thank you! apcalc Nov 2020 #32
That's great - nice job, very entertaining read, thanks. Without as much detail..... George II Nov 2020 #33
MI - 95% Biden, WI - 93% Biden (538) Called by 11PM . My Pet Orangutan Nov 2020 #34
Damned if that doesn't sound incredibly plausible to me Silent3 Nov 2020 #35
I know this sounds ridiculous..but by 9pm ET the election will be called for Biden. Stuart G Nov 2020 #37
The networks will wait until the polls close on the west coast PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #47
Wow!!! This was so exciting!! Bookmarked Olafjoy Nov 2020 #38
Wow ColoradoBlue Nov 2020 #39
Welcome to DU, ColoradoBlue! calimary Nov 2020 #45
Outstanding, reasonable and entertaining. One question grantcart Nov 2020 #41
That's a really beautiful time machine you got there. Mystery sage Nov 2020 #42
Well thought out. But even if not exactly right, we have other paths to victory. Stinky The Clown Nov 2020 #43
You make as much sense as about anything else I've seen. Liberal In Texas Nov 2020 #44
I hope they are wrong about cannabis_flower Nov 2020 #129
Me, too, cannabis_flower. I hope Texas blows trump out of the race, and dems take BComplex Nov 2020 #152
Bookmarked LostinRed Nov 2020 #46
I hope so. IronLionZion Nov 2020 #48
thanks for all this. It will be helpful on election night Hamlette Nov 2020 #49
From your lips to God's ears. nt SunSeeker Nov 2020 #50
I won't be home until 10:30pm so I won't be able to watch the results until then. IrishEyes Nov 2020 #51
BOOKMARKED and Wow (Truly impressive And a tad obsessive)... Ellipsis Nov 2020 #52
Pennsylvania will def. go for Biden FakeNoose Nov 2020 #198
I got chills when I got to 12:10 in your projection mikelgb Nov 2020 #53
Virginia will be called at 7. We've been Rice4VP Nov 2020 #54
You may well be right, but in the past the largest county didn't report its spooky3 Nov 2020 #57
That was fun! nt cry baby Nov 2020 #55
Reads like a thriller. Great job. Pepsidog Nov 2020 #56
You put a helluva lot of work into this-- thank you!! ailsagirl Nov 2020 #58
Thanks. I'll remember not to freak out early on. nolabear Nov 2020 #59
Bookmarked. MontanaMama Nov 2020 #60
I'll be in bed by 7 cilla4progress Nov 2020 #64
I told my guys that MontanaMama Nov 2020 #69
Sweet, thank you! cilla4progress Nov 2020 #80
Universe be with your girl. MontanaMama Nov 2020 #83
I know. cilla4progress Nov 2020 #94
So sorry to hear this. ancianita Nov 2020 #102
So far, cilla4progress Nov 2020 #202
I went to bed early last time and BrightKnight Nov 2020 #199
Hey! You're not drunk all the time, are you! dchill Nov 2020 #61
Brilliant exposition and lucid thinking. Muchas gracias! nt Prof.Higgins Nov 2020 #62
OMG! I hope you are psychic... MoonchildCA Nov 2020 #63
Wow, that was fun to read! liberal_mama Nov 2020 #65
Oh, I do hope so! Thank you for all this work. Meanwhile, phonebanking. somaticexperiencing Nov 2020 #66
Well done DI ! Saved to savor again in two days. FailureToCommunicate Nov 2020 #67
Great analysis Poiuyt Nov 2020 #68
Ok w me! lindysalsagal Nov 2020 #70
Epic post! You made Mr. Giblets cry tears of joy, not an easy feat. flibbitygiblets Nov 2020 #71
Bookmarked! Mme. Defarge Nov 2020 #72
Bookmarked HubertHeaver Nov 2020 #73
This is an exciting read... Trueblue Texan Nov 2020 #75
great level of detail AlexSFCA Nov 2020 #76
49 hours til President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris! Roland99 Nov 2020 #77
I could hear Brian William's voice as I read it. SharonClark Nov 2020 #78
Sounds good, but you forgot.... cbdo2007 Nov 2020 #79
Nikki will never be approved by congress. HubertHeaver Nov 2020 #99
Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2020 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author lunatica Nov 2020 #82
New Mexico's 3 EVs will be called for Biden around 10 pm EST, possibly earlier. Bank on it. n/t TygrBright Nov 2020 #84
NM has 5 EV's not 3 but I agree it will be called very early after polls close there. nt Quixote1818 Nov 2020 #118
Very cool. Joinfortmill Nov 2020 #87
Damn you! SCantiGOP Nov 2020 #88
Works for me world wide wally Nov 2020 #89
That is one thorough and well-considered breakdown. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #90
Well done! Jon King Nov 2020 #91
Riveting! Followed your timeline, state by state analysis --Biden wins--damn going to be quite RestoreAmerica2020 Nov 2020 #92
Bookmarked Tom Rivers Nov 2020 #93
Bookmarked JohnnyRingo Nov 2020 #95
Nice work WSHazel Nov 2020 #96
Texas count will essentially be done before midnight. yellowdogintexas Nov 2020 #125
I predict that Trump will lose in a landslide, 413-125. Trump will declare victory anyway. StevieM Nov 2020 #97
Book marked burrowowl Nov 2020 #98
K & R !!! Excellent analysis !!! nt Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #100
I just want to get home before the cult starts shooting up the place. AllyCat Nov 2020 #101
Wow! That was wonderful! lucca18 Nov 2020 #103
Here's hoping sakabatou Nov 2020 #104
As the Emperor told Luke, "So be it, Jedi!" I've bookmarked this post for PatrickforO Nov 2020 #105
Dam that's some good work. njhoneybadger Nov 2020 #106
Kick. Iggo Nov 2020 #107
I'm visualizing it... Blue Owl Nov 2020 #108
This sounds right. coti Nov 2020 #109
Here's my off the wall prediction: TryLogic Nov 2020 #110
Not to Russia: Too much Polonium there. More like Saudi Arabia or the UAE (Dubai or Abu Dhabi). Lock him up. Nov 2020 #111
Your killing me MFM008 Nov 2020 #112
Well, you know I gotta bookmark this for Tuesday, glad I won't be up late on the West Coast. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #113
DI - I look forward to looking at your prognostication Tues nite!! NoMoreRepugs Nov 2020 #114
Thanks, DI! That's it. I can't be exhausted twice in one week so I'm going with your prediction. ancianita Nov 2020 #115
My plan, exactly! cilla4progress Nov 2020 #178
Wow. Extraordinarily impressive that you pulled this together Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #117
Picking up some Guinness for Tues and bookmarking this.. HipChick Nov 2020 #120
Bookmarking! And even though I am on the West Coast, I plan to stay up quite late! CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2020 #121
I think Florida will be declared sooner. AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #122
Nope. James48 Nov 2020 #123
Na. We will. Only way we don't is if Biden loses GA, FL & NC... Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #124
Not Really smb Nov 2020 #201
Impressive! honest.abe Nov 2020 #126
A friendly reminder about celebratory libations (some are better than others) ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #127
Thank you for this. niyad Nov 2020 #131
Great analysis!! SweetieD Nov 2020 #128
Bookmarking niyad Nov 2020 #130
Trump rally today in North Carolina sets tone for his sinking campaign srose58089 Nov 2020 #132
This will be fun to follow. Thanks for the hard work! UCmeNdc Nov 2020 #133
This is great...one exception... 634-5789 Nov 2020 #134
Now that's what I call rizlaplus Nov 2020 #135
I hope so LeftInTX Nov 2020 #136
I'm keeping this thread open in my tabs. GoneOffShore Nov 2020 #137
Nice work DI! panader0 Nov 2020 #138
Very exciting narrative! Thanks for sharing that! NurseJackie Nov 2020 #139
Wow that was a lot of crystal ball work! bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #140
Love it! ucrdem Nov 2020 #141
thanks nice work scarytomcat Nov 2020 #142
It would be fun to run this as an Election Results thread jimlup Nov 2020 #143
Slainte! Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #144
Wait a minute, what about the other states? jaxexpat Nov 2020 #145
Bookmarked! I think Florida will be called between 11-12. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2020 #146
This is an amazing post - brilliant DIVINEprividence Nov 2020 #147
And they all lived happily ever after. 😊😊😊 dixiechiken1 Nov 2020 #148
I appreciate your efforts TNNurse Nov 2020 #149
This could be your first journal entry. Mosby Nov 2020 #150
Counting on you going 3 for 3... icnorth Nov 2020 #151
How do you download into a text file? BarbD Nov 2020 #181
Happy that Wisconsin puts him over. Borchkins Nov 2020 #153
I'll see it when I wake up in the moring. Or the mid-evening bathroom break oldsoftie Nov 2020 #154
I think your assessment fails on the West Coast brooklynite Nov 2020 #155
This seems like a realistic scenario mcar Nov 2020 #156
Here's DI's map as of 12:45 AM election night honest.abe Nov 2020 #158
This is Great. I hope you're right Beringia Nov 2020 #159
Thank you - now I can tune out on Tuesday night. Merlot Nov 2020 #160
Love it! ariesgem Nov 2020 #161
I hope you are right and yuiyoshida Nov 2020 #163
Thanks for saving me from watching all that. LOL! n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2020 #164
You left out: "At 7:04, Trump declares victory" zaj Nov 2020 #166
AM or PM? nt smb Nov 2020 #203
hahaha! zaj Nov 2020 #204
Seeing As How RobinA Nov 2020 #167
Make it so! Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2020 #168
I sure as hell hope you are right!! Aviation91 Nov 2020 #169
You forgot to add that Trump after Republicans fail to have Trump concede. LiberalFighter Nov 2020 #170
And then go SPLAT down onto the ground below. calimary Nov 2020 #174
Great scenario. BarbD Nov 2020 #182
Printed this out with check marks to use as my cheatsheet lettucebe Nov 2020 #171
Thank you! wryter2000 Nov 2020 #172
I feel the need to bookmark this one. calimary Nov 2020 #173
I'm not planning on watching TV at all Tuesday evening and night Catherine Vincent Nov 2020 #175
Wow, you put a lot of effort into that PatSeg Nov 2020 #176
Fabulous malaise Nov 2020 #177
Fascinating Analysis COL Mustard Nov 2020 #179
⭐️⭐️⭐️K&R ⭐️⭐️⭐️ spanone Nov 2020 #180
Thank you - bookmarked - k&r nt Clearly fogged in Nov 2020 #183
I'd love this so much that GOPBasher Nov 2020 #184
Not seeing it ... Rob_NC Nov 2020 #185
Just curious, how many Presidential election night returns have you seen? Roc2020 Nov 2020 #186
If I heard the news correctly, Arizona has already started ChazII Nov 2020 #187
So, with your detailed play-by-play, I can actually start drinking now. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2020 #188
kicking for visibility bdamomma Nov 2020 #189
K&R nt Javaman Nov 2020 #190
Bookmarked. I won't know what they comment on tv as I am doing on line only robbedvoter Nov 2020 #191
bookmarking angel823 Nov 2020 #192
made me laugh CountryFirst Nov 2020 #193
I'll go ahead and call Florida for Biden now absolutely smoking Trump. Ligyron Nov 2020 #196
Kick USALiberal Nov 2020 #197
Man that was so much fun reading proud patriot Nov 2020 #200
What's your prediction on the final number of EV's and spread? Polybius Nov 2020 #205
I hope your prognosis is correct. I don't think akbacchus_BC Nov 2020 #206
Bookmarking for later. n/t Yavin4 Nov 2020 #207
Kickety kick Roland99 Nov 2020 #208
Kick USALiberal Nov 2020 #209
Kickin' (n/t) Lock him up. Nov 2020 #210
Using it as a template: so far, ahead with Virginis being called for Biden robbedvoter Nov 2020 #211
See? Ahead robbedvoter Nov 2020 #213
So far, so good! RexLipton Nov 2020 #212
Kick Clearly fogged in Nov 2020 #214
Amazing! karin_sj Nov 2020 #215
Predicted at 8:30 EST : Biden-91, Trump-66. Actual : Biden-85, Trump-55. bullwinkle428 Nov 2020 #216
I am going to be off tonight, unfortunately. Biden is underperforming what I expected. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #218
Improvement: NM is called for Biden robbedvoter Nov 2020 #217
My respect grows with each passing moment! dchill Nov 2020 #219
Improvement: Colorado called for Biden by 🦊 robbedvoter Nov 2020 #220
You're pretty much on the timeline csziggy Nov 2020 #221
Yes but I was way off with important calls: Biden winning North Carolina & Michigan being called. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #222
Bummer. But why isn't he going to win if he pulls out MI WI and PA? Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #223
Because they're not going to be called tonight. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #224
Ok. But there's no way trump's hate rallies could erase the leads Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #225
Can Biden win w/o AZ? Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #226
He'll win Arizona. I am less confident about the rustbelt states. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #227
If he steals I think he'll steal WI. Just because I heard him Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #228
Trump is always one step ahead. UCmeNdc Nov 2020 #229
I always get flamed for saying this but sometimes I am Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #233
It is how he wins. The media communicates to his people on the ground how to act in unison. UCmeNdc Nov 2020 #230
It all comes back to PA UCmeNdc Nov 2020 #231
You were closer than some of the "experts" Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #232

klook

(13,546 posts)
165. As a Georgian,
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 11:12 AM
Nov 2020

I have an intense interest in seeing it flip! Stacey Abrams got totally ripped off in 2018, and I want John Lewis’s legacy to be honored with a Biden win in Lewis’s adopted home state.

NOT TO MENTION seeing our noxious excuses for U.S. senators Perdue and Loeffler go down in Orange flames (and replaced by Jewish and Black Dems) would be sweet beyond belief!

DownriverDem

(6,988 posts)
157. Michigan
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:36 AM
Nov 2020

Most of Michigan closes at 8. A small sliver near Wisconsin closes at 9. This is our first time with mail in/drop off voting. It will not be called on Tuesday night. I'm concerned and my husband thinks I'm crazy and says Biden will win in a landslide. This has really drove me crazy.

pamdb

(1,439 posts)
194. michigan
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:49 PM
Nov 2020


Us as well. And the big orange pill of shit is coming to Grand Rapids tonight. These idiots have been lining up since 7:30 in the morning. Disgraceful. Such an embarrassment for Grand Rapids which is largely a democratic city. Not the suburbs and rural areas, but still.

pamdb

(1,439 posts)
195. michigan
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:50 PM
Nov 2020


Us as well. And the big orange pill of shit is coming to Grand Rapids tonight. These idiots have been lining up since 7:30 in the morning. Disgraceful. Such an embarrassment for Grand Rapids which is largely a democratic city. Not the suburbs and rural areas, but still.

Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

TxDemChem

(1,924 posts)
6. I feel like I just read
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 09:26 PM
Nov 2020

The most intense and fascinating novel ever! My heart was racing, my eyes blinked more rapidly. I hope it plays out just as you put it. Definitely bookmarking this to use as a pick-me-up in the following days.

louis-t

(24,584 posts)
162. "This isn't a hospital! It's an insane asylum!"
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:24 AM
Nov 2020

Oh wait, wrong movie. "Call me when you have no class."

One more: "Maybe you can come over and help me straighten out my Longfellow."

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
21. MI passed a law this year allowing counties with populations bigger than 25,000 to start processing
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 09:40 PM
Nov 2020

...a day before the election.

I think Biden wins Michigan by 7-10 points, so, the results will be known even if all the votes haven't been counted.

As for PA, I left it out for that reason.

NJCher

(42,769 posts)
116. Did you see 60 Minutes sun night?
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:10 AM
Nov 2020

I think they said AZ has a high percentage of the vote in and they will be announcing at 7 p.m.

I was on the phone so not sure I got that correct. The show is available online.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
119. Arizona will have a lot of ballots counted...
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:19 AM
Nov 2020

A lot will depend on how many outstanding absentee ballots there are that were received on election day. That's what put Kyrsten Sinema over the top, as she was actually losing throughout election night and the final week of the election. Why? Because 1 million early voting ballots were still not counted by that Wednesday and didn't come in until basically a week later (that Monday when she was declared the victor).

So, the question is how many of those early voters (people who voted early, but didn't drop off their ballot until election day) will be outstanding. Right now, Arizona is at like 86% its turnout from 2016. So, hopefully that means there's fewer ballots.

And while the senate race was close, it wasn't super, super close. Sinema ended up winning by 2.4 points.

WSHazel

(650 posts)
85. I think Philadelphia is going to report as much as it can as fast as it can
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:19 PM
Nov 2020

They can process a lot of ballots between 7 am and 8 pm on Tuesday.

crickets

(26,168 posts)
14. That was intense.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 09:32 PM
Nov 2020

I can't wait to see it -- & hope you're right, or at least close. Thanks for giving me a TV schedule, because there is no way I'm watching the coverage all night.

Nitram

(27,324 posts)
24. Thanks for the well-thought-out projection. Encouraging.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 09:41 PM
Nov 2020

I do believe Biden will win - but I know I thought the same when Bush won his second term and Trump won his first. We'll just have to wait and see.

George II

(67,782 posts)
33. That's great - nice job, very entertaining read, thanks. Without as much detail.....
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 09:48 PM
Nov 2020

....that's about the way I see most of it. The best thing about this is that it tantalizes trump into thinking he still has a shot through most of the evening. I like the idea that the trump team will go quiet and refuse to give interviews!!!!

One thing, though - I think it may be called an hour or so earlier than 12:45, maybe even as soon as shortly after 11:00.

Should it not go that way, I'll be sure to have my car gassed up, packed, and parked in the direction of Canada (not really)!

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
37. I know this sounds ridiculous..but by 9pm ET the election will be called for Biden.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 09:51 PM
Nov 2020

The results will be so clear, that the west coast won't matter..You heard it right here..on Sunday, 9:45pm ET.
It might even be 8:30pmET...Why? the polls of those who voted will project that..Trump may not
get more than 40%...Just wait and see....Maybe 35%...

No one will have to wait past 10:30 ET....Maybe even 10pm ET. Again....
......... polls of voters who voted will make this clear......Why?..

...Trump make buffoons look like college professors..........ant eaters are smarter than Donald Trump...

...............no offense meant to those that like ant eaters......

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,485 posts)
47. The networks will wait until the polls close on the west coast
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:01 PM
Nov 2020

before declaring a winner. They have never fully lived down declaring Ronald Reagan the winner in 1980, causing hundreds, maybe thousands of voters to leave the lines they were standing in on the west coast. The real issue was all of the down ballot races.

calimary

(89,308 posts)
45. Welcome to DU, ColoradoBlue!
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:00 PM
Nov 2020

I know how you feel! I grew more and more nervous as I read down through the OP!

I often read the end of the book because I don't like surprises and I wanna know how it ends! That just makes the getting-there all the more interesting, imo. But I didn't skip ahead to the end, for this one. Sure wish I could do that in real life - to breathe a little easier on Tuesday night.

I'm not gonna have a single cuticle left...

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
41. Outstanding, reasonable and entertaining. One question
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 09:56 PM
Nov 2020


Will grantcart get lucky with Mrs grantcart? Will we be too close to call? What time will we enter the critical period to declare victory in the Conjugal College?

cannabis_flower

(3,921 posts)
129. I hope they are wrong about
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 01:50 AM
Nov 2020

Texas being too close to call. I hope most of those new voters who voted early are Democrats and Trump people are overconfident and don’t show up.

BComplex

(9,810 posts)
152. Me, too, cannabis_flower. I hope Texas blows trump out of the race, and dems take
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 08:47 AM
Nov 2020

over the Texas house!

Then I want to see Florida toss the republicans out.

That's my wish. It's big. But I still wish it.

IronLionZion

(51,010 posts)
48. I hope so.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:02 PM
Nov 2020

I like the idea of Florida not being the big kingmaker they always try to be and Georgia going blue. Biden was nominated to take back the great lakes states and I think he will do it. It would be sweet to win Texas too.

I hope it is a Dem sweep for Senate too. If we lose one, it will be Doug Jones in Alabama. Then President Biden can appoint him to a cabinet post or Attorney General.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
51. I won't be home until 10:30pm so I won't be able to watch the results until then.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:07 PM
Nov 2020

I want to be watching when Biden is declared the winner.

Ellipsis

(9,445 posts)
52. BOOKMARKED and Wow (Truly impressive And a tad obsessive)...
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:08 PM
Nov 2020

Last edited Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:03 PM - Edit history (3)

...as I have been.

On the money methinks.


Hopefully after this both of us will take a sabbatical from politics with our favorite beverage of choice.


FakeNoose

(40,759 posts)
198. Pennsylvania will def. go for Biden
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:00 PM
Nov 2020

... but unfortunately we won 't know that on Tuesday night. I'm thinking later in the day on Wednesday Pennsylvania will announce results, after all the hoopla is over, of course.

Joe will win and I will get no sleep until it's called.



Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
54. Virginia will be called at 7. We've been
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:15 PM
Nov 2020

early voting in person since September 18. Over 2.7M votes have been cast and Biden is ahead by double digits in every poll. We were the first state to have long voting lines

spooky3

(38,393 posts)
57. You may well be right, but in the past the largest county didn't report its
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:23 PM
Nov 2020

results until the end of the evening, and since the county is very blue and the contest was tight to that point, they couldn’t call it. Biden does have a larger poll margin than in 2016.

Also: mail votes won’t be counted until polls close.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wusa9.com/amp/article/news/verify/verify-when-are-mail-in-ballots-counted-in-dc-maryland-and-virginia/65-291c301d-ec42-4b37-9f63-6be40775e534

MontanaMama

(24,644 posts)
60. Bookmarked.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:36 PM
Nov 2020

I was seriously fighting tears the whole way through your OP. I am so anxious. All I could do this weekend was rake the yard of every single leaf that hit the ground. I’m more OCD than normal about leaves in my yard. It gave me something to do other than obsess about the cliff we are all standing on.

cilla4progress

(26,518 posts)
64. I'll be in bed by 7
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:42 PM
Nov 2020

Knocked out by a cocktail of Marijuana and alcohol.

Wake me when it's over.

Don't want to get my hopes up.

MontanaMama

(24,644 posts)
69. I told my guys that
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:50 PM
Nov 2020

I would be making a very simple dinner on Tuesday...early. If things start to go south, I will be in my bed and don’t try to tell me things will be okay. My hopes are up but I am scared to death. Last night at the Halloween bonfire on my street, every single person around the fire was quite vocal about their anxiety and worry for this election. Light a candle c4p, smudge with some sage...anything we can do to help us get through the next couple days, friend.

cilla4progress

(26,518 posts)
80. Sweet, thank you!
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:12 PM
Nov 2020

My dear daughter is having to spend this time alone at her Montana home - quarantining! She got exposed to someone who tested positive at work! Fortunately, no symptoms so far.

So hard.

cilla4progress

(26,518 posts)
202. So far,
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:28 PM
Nov 2020

so good. She's devastated to be alone on election night - wish I could be with her! She says most of her friends aren't as political as her anyway. She's really worried. RBG's death hit her hard!

I'll never forget the call I got from her on the morning after the 2016 election. She just cried, said she couldn't look the students in the eye. She was a parapro for an autistic 5th grader, at that time. 💙

Poiuyt

(18,272 posts)
68. Great analysis
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:50 PM
Nov 2020

I don't think WI will be called quite that early, and I think GA will go to Trump because Georgian Republicans are so good at cheating. Otherwise, I agree.

HubertHeaver

(2,539 posts)
73. Bookmarked
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:54 PM
Nov 2020

Will follow along on Tuesday night, Wednesday morning. I think you are accurate. I don't follow it as closely because I tend to get too involved. I've already had one heart attack, I don't need another.

I am expecting/hoping Texas goes big for Biden early causing the Orange one to have a Covid-related heart attack making Pence #46. Lame duck his entire term.

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
76. great level of detail
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 10:59 PM
Nov 2020

I believe Biden will win AZ. Not sure about GA but if voter registration rolls is not a big issue this time, then it is very possible. Kemp was ahead by just a fraction of a percent with at least 400k dem ballots thrown out. AZ doesn’t have the voter suppression nonsense and that’s why I believe Biden will win there. Of course, if Biden wins Georgina by Wednesday mornin, trump may actually concede at that time.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
79. Sounds good, but you forgot....
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:12 PM
Nov 2020

Trump tweeting that massive fraud and voter irregularities have been found in key swing states. He and AG Barr will announce a major investigation into it with the help of the FBI.

He has too many tools at his disposal and is planning something big.

The my bet is that on Friday, after 2 full days of hell, Pelosi and Pence will announce that hey are implementing the 25th amendment and Pence will take over as President immediately due to increasing threats from Trump. Pence will give him a full pardon along with his kids to all Federal charges. Pence will concede to Biden on Friday immediately after taking charge and will announce Nikki Haley as his VP making her the first female VP and minority VP in history.

HubertHeaver

(2,539 posts)
99. Nikki will never be approved by congress.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:34 PM
Nov 2020

No need to approve her. If pence dies the Speaker of the House assumes the Presidency.

Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

SCantiGOP

(14,682 posts)
88. Damn you!
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:25 PM
Nov 2020

You cut it off 10 minutes too soon.
At 12:55 Jaime Harrison is declared the winner of the S.C. Senate seat.
Lindsey Graham concedes, and says that the President should also.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
91. Well done!
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:26 PM
Nov 2020

That was an amazing job! Dems are always the most talented people, inventors, artists, singers, athletes, thinkers, etc. In this case, the OP is a very talented writer and prognosticator. Honestly, I have tuned out Trump and his cult already, just boring people with zero good ideas and zero valuable talents.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,471 posts)
92. Riveting! Followed your timeline, state by state analysis --Biden wins--damn going to be quite
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:26 PM
Nov 2020

..a night, especially with odious#45 crying the entire time.

Thanks..going to save post, follow and tick off play by play as night progresses as polls close and ballots are counted.

Have to say your post was entertaining; have been following varied maps showing states Clinton won--now on Biden's column; states that lean or leaning blue as well as Biden's efforts to shore up blue wall states that somehow went for a$$ in 2016..what was it a collective 77,000 votes somehow were ...? Oh well one day wel'l find out how they skimmed off those votes].

Anyway, this time it's going in our favor-Biden wins, we keep House and gain majority in Senate. Read, heard pollsters predicting Biden with over 350 electoral votes--which will take a few days to tabulate--that would give that MF, GOP a good kick in the nalgas [butt] for subjecting us to almost 4 yrs of sheer hell.

Fuck. Election night is going to be one hell of a night!

Tom Rivers

(459 posts)
93. Bookmarked
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:27 PM
Nov 2020

Looks beautiful! I certainly won't be complaining if it plays out that way. Please Dems keep GOTVing and let's make it a reality!

WSHazel

(650 posts)
96. Nice work
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:27 PM
Nov 2020

My only quibble is that if Biden is winning by 10 nationally, there will be some quicker calls in races like Michigan where they can start counting tomorrow.

The only states that will drag past midnight is where there is either a huge outstanding vote to be counted that is expected to shrink the gap or the race is within 1%. I think Biden will win NC and AZ by more than that, and roughly 80% of both states should be reported within about an hour of close since they can count early.

yellowdogintexas

(23,612 posts)
125. Texas count will essentially be done before midnight.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 01:24 AM
Nov 2020

Our mail in ballots will be counted by the time the polls close with results posted with the in person early voting.

StevieM

(10,578 posts)
97. I predict that Trump will lose in a landslide, 413-125. Trump will declare victory anyway.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:31 PM
Nov 2020

He will announce that there has been massive voter fraud, and therefore Biden is disqualified. Trump will say that he is the first candidate in history to win 538-0.

AllyCat

(18,659 posts)
101. I just want to get home before the cult starts shooting up the place.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:36 PM
Nov 2020

I might stay at work that night if it is crazy when I get off work at midnight.

lucca18

(1,450 posts)
103. Wow! That was wonderful!
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:36 PM
Nov 2020

Thank you for all the work you put into this.

Since I will be too nervous to watch on Tuesday night, this was a great read.
Joe Biden, our next 46th President of the United States!

PatrickforO

(15,383 posts)
105. As the Emperor told Luke, "So be it, Jedi!" I've bookmarked this post for
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:39 PM
Nov 2020

reference on election night.

I suspect you're right, but I have knocked on wood, superstitious thing that I am.

coti

(4,625 posts)
109. This sounds right.
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:53 PM
Nov 2020

Last edited Mon Nov 2, 2020, 01:26 AM - Edit history (1)

I think the MI, WI, NC and AZ combo will be the killer (to well beyond 270).

TryLogic

(2,280 posts)
110. Here's my off the wall prediction:
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 11:54 PM
Nov 2020

Trump will not actually be at the White House. He will be at Mara Lago. As soon as the writing is on the wall, he will sneak out and head for Russia to escape justice, hundreds of law suits, and dozens of bankruptcies.

Lock him up.

(9,558 posts)
111. Not to Russia: Too much Polonium there. More like Saudi Arabia or the UAE (Dubai or Abu Dhabi).
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:03 AM
Nov 2020

The CIA will then design a plan to activate Seal Team Six to get them and bring them back to face long overdue JUSTICE.

MFM008

(20,042 posts)
112. Your killing me
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:04 AM
Nov 2020

But i think this may be close to reality
Although they need to start calling some of them uncalled States pretty quickly....

ancianita

(43,162 posts)
115. Thanks, DI! That's it. I can't be exhausted twice in one week so I'm going with your prediction.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:10 AM
Nov 2020

I'll have a drink, a smoke, grab a book and head to bed Tuesday night.

I'm too chicken to sit through anything but highlights the next day.

This was awesome!

cilla4progress

(26,518 posts)
178. My plan, exactly!
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:46 PM
Nov 2020

In 2016 I went to bed early - even leaving guests downstairs watching the results roll in! I was overcome with a fatigue I've never felt.before. I've since learned it was a panic response (vasovagal, I believe)!

I was tipped off as we watched early returns (I'm on the west coast) by the HACK AND TAKEDOWN of DU! It was my 1st inkling that something was terribly wrong...

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,306 posts)
121. Bookmarking! And even though I am on the West Coast, I plan to stay up quite late!
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:23 AM
Nov 2020

Loved your rundown of results! Well thought out and soooo thorough!

Thank you so much.

James48

(5,129 posts)
123. Nope.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:53 AM
Nov 2020

The sheer volume of absentees outstanding is going to slow your timeline WAAAY down,

I will be surprised if we have a winner known before at least noon on Wednesday.

Or later.

Likely the same outcome, but NOT at midnight Tuesday night!

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
124. Na. We will. Only way we don't is if Biden loses GA, FL & NC...
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 01:17 AM
Nov 2020

...plus the margins in PA, WI and MI are within two or three points. Take Michigan. They ruled counties with populations over 25,000 can begin processing mail-in ballots tomorrow (Monday). If Biden wins by 7-10 points, they'll call it for him. If it's much narrower than that, then you're right.

smb

(3,598 posts)
201. Not Really
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:27 PM
Nov 2020

Only a few states have the stupid rules against pre-counting early votes -- most of them will have the totals (a much larger percentage of the total this time) mostly ready to report as soon as the polls close.

(Getting rid of such rules across the board ought to be one of the national-standards reforms the Dems ought to enact once we take both houses and the Presidency.)

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
126. Impressive!
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 01:44 AM
Nov 2020

I think you have nailed it. I might be a bit more optimistic on my predictions but you probably have it right since the networks are going to be very cautious making calls Tuesday night.

Really enjoyed reading this.. only wished you finished all the way through to see the final totals. I guess that’s too much to ask!

Well done!



srose58089

(218 posts)
132. Trump rally today in North Carolina sets tone for his sinking campaign
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 02:12 AM
Nov 2020
&feature=youtu.be&t=1&fbclid=IwAR2sfJVT6Iy5hMOe2ldGnK3Pv2DCtBF5-Rbjge05y9X7hsWohV544C3J2ko

Theme song to Titanic plays at Trump rally. I think Florida will be called early for Biden and the Titanic sinks into the ocean.

rizlaplus

(163 posts)
135. Now that's what I call
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:18 AM
Nov 2020

a solid prediction.

I don't think Iowa is gonna go Biden though!

Overall though it's an exciting read.

bucolic_frolic

(54,498 posts)
140. Wow that was a lot of crystal ball work!
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:31 AM
Nov 2020

As long as Biden holds Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota, and then wins Arizona and Nevada, he wins. That's 270, assuming New Hampshire and Virginia remain blue, and he gets what he needs in Nebraska and Maine. At this point, reasonable assumptions.

That is without PA, NC, IA, FL, TX.

jimlup

(8,009 posts)
143. It would be fun to run this as an Election Results thread
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:48 AM
Nov 2020

and comment in real time about the predictions. You could run the segments as each time stamp passes....

then let people comment as the specific times pass.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
145. Wait a minute, what about the other states?
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:56 AM
Nov 2020

What's the count in Prehensilvania or Pensicolitis, Tejacux and New Maldrid. Don't those folks get a count too? The people of Yankstonia and Yellowish should have a voice. And what of the hundreds of others? Like Cheesy and how could you forget the proud state of Idonvoten? I'd say you need to look at a map next time, buddy.

 

DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
147. This is an amazing post - brilliant
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:16 AM
Nov 2020

I think this is how it plays out. Based on your timeline I am avoiding watching returns until 9:30 pm and save myself a ton of stress. Drinking cocktails and listening to punk rock until then. Thank you for this. Very insightful.

TNNurse

(7,511 posts)
149. I appreciate your efforts
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 08:13 AM
Nov 2020

but after 2016 and Trump's threats for 4 years, I will not believe any poll except the final one.

icnorth

(1,045 posts)
151. Counting on you going 3 for 3...
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 08:17 AM
Nov 2020

I downloaded your prognosis into a text file to print and follow as the evening progresses. Prognosticators who have a 1,000 batting average always pique my interest but I hope you don't mind if I do a side by side check off with the networks... ☺

PS: Wishing, hoping for a Biden/Harris slam dunk. From Canada, a toast to all of you campaigning, getting people to the polls and voting to a-right a ship of state listing far to starboard.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
154. I'll see it when I wake up in the moring. Or the mid-evening bathroom break
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:04 AM
Nov 2020

I've long said that i wanted to see trump suddenly be screaming that "we have to wait till ALL the votes are counted!!", after screaming for months that we should know ON election day

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
155. I think your assessment fails on the West Coast
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:06 AM
Nov 2020

We know how it will play out eventually, but the networks will be much more cautious this year, and none of the mail-in ballot States will have early counts.

 

honest.abe

(9,238 posts)
158. Here's DI's map as of 12:45 AM election night
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:40 AM
Nov 2020


Off by one somewhere... maybe Maine.

Its interesting that Joe has a very plausible road to victory without PA. However I believe he is going to win PA, as well as FL, AZ and maybe TX an, once all the ballots are counted.

RobinA

(10,476 posts)
167. Seeing As How
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 11:35 AM
Nov 2020

I'm from PA, this works for me. I would like nothing more than for us to be taken out of the mix, because I know it is going to take us forever to count. I do NOT want to go to sleep Tuesday not knowing who won.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
170. You forgot to add that Trump after Republicans fail to have Trump concede.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:00 PM
Nov 2020

He will appear on the balcony of the WH.
He will take off his suit so that he can become Superman.
He will take a running leap to fly off the balcony.

COL Mustard

(8,064 posts)
179. Fascinating Analysis
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:56 PM
Nov 2020

I have a bottle of Jameson's that may not survive the night, depending on how things go...and I hope you're correct!

GOPBasher

(7,403 posts)
184. I'd love this so much that
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 02:27 PM
Nov 2020

I would even tolerate Trump's infantile, all-caps shit tweets. However, one thing, in states the states that won't even come close to finishing the tallying of the mail-in ballots -- including several that won't even start counting them until after the polls close -- how can anyone make any calls? I know mail-in ballots were part of other elections, but nowhere near to this degree.

Roc2020

(1,752 posts)
186. Just curious, how many Presidential election night returns have you seen?
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 03:46 PM
Nov 2020

pretty detailed. I will keep a close eye on your post tomorrow night

Ligyron

(8,006 posts)
196. I'll go ahead and call Florida for Biden now absolutely smoking Trump.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:52 PM
Nov 2020

Leaving his campaign and the donald himself a smoldering ruin of embarrassment in front of the whole world. The few million Trumpanzees will be in total shock as their media has been lying to them as usual telling them everything is looking good for another trump victory when reality, as usual, has been another matter entirely.

World leaders and countries across the globe will jam President elect Joe Biden's phone lines for weeks attempting to congratulate him and offer reconciliation with the coming US leadership at the earliest possible opportunity.

In the following days the trump's campaign will make a half hearted attempt in the courts and elsewhere to change the outcome of the election but they will fail. The margin of victory is far too great and PTB wanted him gone anyway.

A few members of various "militias" and a couple proud boys will be shot and many others arrested for attacking a few Starbucks, several public libraries and scattered PBS stations nationwide.

Within a month or two, trump will be arrested and taken into custody at his club, Merde del Lardo by Palm Beach County sheriff deputies for extradition to New York or DC to stand trial for various crimes he's committed both before and during office. Former members of his staff and "friends" will testify against him and civil suits for sexual assault, rape and fraudulent financial matters will eventually bankrupt both himself and his organizations.

He will probably die within a couple years from worsening health and heart related problems a broken man and go straight to Hell. Even though it didn't exist before. Those who supported him wholeheartedly will attempt to disown him and rewrite history but will be shunned and shamed nonetheless finding reelection and future employment impossible. A few will commit suicide blaming Trump and everyone but themselves just like their hero would. They too will go to the newly created Hell.

Polybius

(21,634 posts)
205. What's your prediction on the final number of EV's and spread?
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 11:49 PM
Nov 2020

I think Biden gets 315 EV's, and wins 52-47, with 1% going to the rest.

akbacchus_BC

(5,827 posts)
206. I hope your prognosis is correct. I don't think
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 11:59 PM
Nov 2020

I can relive 2016 all over again. I so believed Kornacki when he seemed so sure Mrs. Clinton would win. Keeping my fingers and toes crossed for a Biden/Harris win.

csziggy

(34,189 posts)
221. You're pretty much on the timeline
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 10:36 PM
Nov 2020
10:00 Eastern:

Polls close in the following states:

Iowa
Montana
Nevada
Utah

Iowa is 'too close to call'.

Montana and Utah are 'too early to call' but with a Trump lead.

Nevada is 'too early to call' but with a Biden lead.

There are 211 Electoral Votes still not called (and that isn't even counting the 85 that are still being decided in states where polls haven't closed).

Biden leads 133 to Trump's 109.

Trump tweets: I WILL WIN!

Shortly after 10:00 Eastern Time, Biden is declared the winner in Minnesota and New Mexico. He's now at 148 Electoral Votes.

Right before poll close on the west coast, Trump is declared the winner in Utah.



Utah was just called for Trump.

The Associated Press has Joe Biden with 131 EV and Trump with 108!
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
222. Yes but I was way off with important calls: Biden winning North Carolina & Michigan being called.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 10:37 PM
Nov 2020

So, my prediction is going to miss by a lot. Biden isn't winning the election tonight.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
225. Ok. But there's no way trump's hate rallies could erase the leads
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 11:23 PM
Nov 2020

Biden had in those state polls, surely. Even if it is tomorrow. Jeez no wonder trump wanted it called tonight. He or his staff deviously brilliant so far.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
228. If he steals I think he'll steal WI. Just because I heard him
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:14 AM
Nov 2020

say something months ago. It made me stop work and think wow, need to to watch that. He can NEVER keep a secret. So if Biden wins MI PA and AZ he's got it? Oh and then there was the question why trump was spending time in that Omaha district. JHC it's like he's always been one step ahead of us.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
233. I always get flamed for saying this but sometimes I am
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 10:30 AM
Nov 2020

In awe with his devious yet strategic moves. Like he pulled his ads from FL early. How did he know he'd win it? Maybe our side knows everything he does and we just don't broadcast it. Or does he have better number crunchers?

Not in any way praising him. Ok.

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