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brooklynite

(94,534 posts)
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:01 AM Nov 2020

Scoop: Biden may keep Warren, Sanders out of Cabinet

Axios

Joe Biden’s team is considering an informal ban on naming Democratic U.S. senators to the Cabinet if he wins — which would effectively block Elizabeth Warren for Treasury or Bernie Sanders for Labor — people familiar with the discussions tell Axios.

The big picture: Biden, if he wins, is bracing for bruising legislative battles on day one, starting with the next phase of coronavirus relief. Many advisers don’t think he can afford to lose a single vote in the Senate if Democrats hold a slim majority.

Biden himself hasn’t made a decision on a potential Senate ban, with his efforts focused on winning on Tuesday, the sources say.
The intrigue: An informal ban could also be an elegant way of tamping down campaigns to place progressive senators in top Cabinet roles by reminding the movement of the priority around enacting legislation.

Warren and Sanders both come from an unusual construct — blue states with Republican governors who'd be empowered to fill vacancies.

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Scoop: Biden may keep Warren, Sanders out of Cabinet (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2020 OP
THIS malaise Nov 2020 #1
Certainly the narrower the margin, the less chance of it happening. OnDoutside Nov 2020 #10
I would want Warren in there ... Beakybird Nov 2020 #2
Vermont & Massachusetts ...... Iliyah Nov 2020 #3
Senators Warren and Sanders would have been great, but we have many many Dems in the House FM123 Nov 2020 #4
Surely both Liz and Bernie understand this? DonaldsRump Nov 2020 #5
This drmeow Nov 2020 #19
Huh? pamdb Nov 2020 #6
Joe will choose individuals who will fully support his administration's agenda... NurseJackie Nov 2020 #7
democratic senators are way more needed in the Senate than being in the Cabinet beachbumbob Nov 2020 #8
i agree..they are way more valuable a Senators samnsara Nov 2020 #9
I agree with this obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #11
The GOP governors they have matter dsc Nov 2020 #12
Let's win the damn election first. tman Nov 2020 #13
They are needed in the Senate DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #14
I LOVE Elizabeth Warren Bettie Nov 2020 #15
Be careful with Axios and Politico stories Tom Rivers Nov 2020 #16
Just in time for the election SunsetDreams2 Nov 2020 #17
They want to pit the left and center-left against each other Tom Rivers Nov 2020 #18
Yes this "article" SunsetDreams2 Nov 2020 #23
... greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #20
As someone who likes Warren and Sanders kwolf68 Nov 2020 #21
For now, but something has to happen to avoid the appalachiablue Nov 2020 #22

malaise

(268,980 posts)
1. THIS
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:04 AM
Nov 2020

Many advisers don’t think he can afford to lose a single vote in the Senate if Democrats hold a slim majority.

Beakybird

(3,333 posts)
2. I would want Warren in there ...
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:04 AM
Nov 2020

But Massachusetts has a horrible history of electing Republicans into open seats.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
4. Senators Warren and Sanders would have been great, but we have many many Dems in the House
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:07 AM
Nov 2020

that could fill these spots as well, and not have to worry about the math of senate majority.
I think CA Congresswoman Katie Porter would make a great Secretary of the Treasury.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
5. Surely both Liz and Bernie understand this?
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:08 AM
Nov 2020

Regardless of how we do on Election Day, we CANNOT lose a single Senate seat. If all goes right, we might be a few seats ahead in the Senate and Kamala breaking the tie when required.

That Bernie and Liz come from states with R governors is case closed for them moving. Change those to D governors and have strong replacement D appointments, then fine.

AFAIK, this is a no-brainer. Sounds like Axios is just trying to stir the pot.

drmeow

(5,017 posts)
19. This
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:09 AM
Nov 2020

Just because they are not in the cabinet doesn't mean they can advise!

Same should go for Democratic governors. I'm still pissed at Obama and Napolitano - really f**ked Arizona.

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
6. Huh?
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:09 AM
Nov 2020

People, let’s not put the cart before the horse. First we have to make sure Joe gets elected. And the big orange turd 💩 leaves the WH. Then we can focus on who gets what position in the cabinet.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
7. Joe will choose individuals who will fully support his administration's agenda...
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:12 AM
Nov 2020

... it would be a mistake for him to choose a cabinet member who had ideas different than the ones Joe Biden has already shared with us. I trust him to make smart decisions and to choose individuals who are best suited and most qualified.

Joe's got this.

obamanut2012

(26,069 posts)
11. I agree with this
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:32 AM
Nov 2020

We have a very deep well of Dem talent, experience, and skillsets to choose from for Biden's Cabinet.

dsc

(52,161 posts)
12. The GOP governors they have matter
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:35 AM
Nov 2020

elections matter. In NC, if we lose the Lt Gov race then Cooper can't be in the cabinet either (even assuming he wants to be). We need to have Senate control, it is vastly more important than any single, or frankly even all combined, cabinet positions.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
14. They are needed in the Senate
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:42 AM
Nov 2020

Both can certainly help craft and pass the legislation Biden will introduce. Maybe a couple bills could carry their name.

But if this is Biden's plan, the biggest loser would be Chris Coons. If, as expeced, Doug Jones loses his seat, he would make a fabulous Atty General.

Bettie

(16,100 posts)
15. I LOVE Elizabeth Warren
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:43 AM
Nov 2020

but I think she should stay in the Senate. She can fight for all of us there.

BUT, I don't want to see a Wall Street guy as Treasury secretary either.

Tom Rivers

(459 posts)
16. Be careful with Axios and Politico stories
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:51 AM
Nov 2020

They love to pit the left and center-left against each other. They're trying to depress the vote. They are clickbait outlets that love the controversy of the Trump Era and would love nothing more than for that to continue. I don't anticipate Sanders or Warren to be part of the Biden administration, not because of any vendetta or policy differences, but because we can't afford to lose any Democratic Senators at this time, especially in states with Republican Governors.

SunsetDreams2

(268 posts)
17. Just in time for the election
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 09:51 AM
Nov 2020

I don’t trust any speculation about this. It’s too early, can we finish making sure Joe is elected first? It’s kind of odd that this article singles out Warren and Sanders.

The article clearly states
“ Biden himself hasn’t made a decision on a potential Senate ban, with his efforts focused on winning on Tuesday, the sources say.”

But let’s write up an entire article on Bernie and Elizabeth.

Tom Rivers

(459 posts)
18. They want to pit the left and center-left against each other
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:07 AM
Nov 2020

They want to incite drama, for the persuadable Warren/Sanders supporters to stay home, and keep Trump in while American democracy burns. These are bad people running Axios, Politico, and some of the others. Clickbait and MSNBC-bait journalism.

SunsetDreams2

(268 posts)
23. Yes this "article"
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:25 AM
Nov 2020

Definitely has an agenda.
Why else would this appear in the article?

“Be smart: Progressives are trying to build momentum for Warren and Sanders, to press a prospective Biden administration to embrace economic justice and eschew traditional special interests.

Some members of Biden’s inner circle are deeply skeptical about handing Treasury, which will play a key role in any economic recovery to Warren, who has expressed interest in the job.”

The agenda is to divide the left before an election.

kwolf68

(7,365 posts)
21. As someone who likes Warren and Sanders
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:13 AM
Nov 2020

I am fine with this. We need the Senate seats and there are plenty of good young progressives that can be a part of a Biden cabinet. In the least I trust he will nominate QUALIFIED people.

appalachiablue

(41,131 posts)
22. For now, but something has to happen to avoid the
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 10:21 AM
Nov 2020

dominance lock on the Senate by the GOP, a very tall order. Admitting DC and Puerto Rico soon is essential.

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