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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 12:24 PM Nov 2020

We Have Reached 40% of Total Turnout; Biden Leads by 20 Million Votes (if the polls are right)

As of right now, 95 million people have voted. (see: https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html)

This is 69.2% of the 2016 turnout and represents a 40% turnout of the Voting Eligible Population (which is 239,247,182) (see: http://www.electproject.org/2020g)

If the national polling data from https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/ is correct, then that means Biden has about a 20 million vote lead in Early Voting (this is extrapolated using the subset of early voting data that has Party ID correlated with the average of the cross tabs on Party ID).

This is most likely an insurmountable lead in the popular vote. Some percentage of Democrats will vote tomorrow. 40 million Trump voters will need to vote tomorrow with fewer than 20 million Biden voters in order for Trump to overtake Biden in the popular vote. That would give Trump 77 million votes, 15 million more than he got in 2016, which is extremely unlikely.

If the distribution goes as projected and turnout is 55%, the same as 2016, Biden will win the popular vote with 10 million votes
At 65% turnout, Biden wins the popular vote with 12.4 million votes.

If you look at Nate Silvers projections for Electoral College win based on popular vote gap, a 10 million vote win like this would translate into a 8-9 point popular vote win, which gives Biden > 99% chance of winning the EC (see: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/im-here-to-remind-you-that-trump-can-still-win/ )

My final prediction for this election based on the polls plus the early voting data (something we have not had this scale before): Biden 54% to Trump 46% with Biden taking at least 320 Electoral Votes.

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We Have Reached 40% of Total Turnout; Biden Leads by 20 Million Votes (if the polls are right) (Original Post) berni_mccoy Nov 2020 OP
Thanks for sharing! I'm hopeful... CaptainTruth Nov 2020 #1
KEEP VOTING Historic NY Nov 2020 #2
My County: Collin in TX is at almost 60% turnout even before JCMach1 Nov 2020 #3
My cousin mentioned to keep an eye on Collin County as a "bellwether" for Texas crimycarny Nov 2020 #5
Collin and Tarrant this time. JCMach1 Nov 2020 #7
K, good to know crimycarny Nov 2020 #15
Tarrant went for Beto in 2018, but less than 1% JCMach1 Nov 2020 #16
I've been saying for weeks VMA131Marine Nov 2020 #4
I've been saying 7 million popular vote win with 309 electoral votes. sarcasmo Nov 2020 #9
Voter Eligible Population is not really a useful number. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #6
Yes clearly. Thanks for the distinction. triron Nov 2020 #8
That person is wrong. VEP is how it is measured berni_mccoy Nov 2020 #11
I prefer VEP because this provides a better estimate of who *could* vote... berni_mccoy Nov 2020 #10
But if people are not registered they can't vote uponit7771 Nov 2020 #12
Some states allow registration at the polls berni_mccoy Nov 2020 #13
Thx for this info, looks like we need voting reform in their country no doubt uponit7771 Nov 2020 #14
Same day registration is, according to the internet, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #17

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
5. My cousin mentioned to keep an eye on Collin County as a "bellwether" for Texas
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 01:08 PM
Nov 2020

She lives in Harris County. Not sure why she feels Collin County is a bellwether county but your comment caught my eye since you mentioned your county was Collin country.

JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
16. Tarrant went for Beto in 2018, but less than 1%
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 02:39 PM
Nov 2020

So watch in Texas if

Tarrant is better than1% Biden
Collin + anything Biden

VMA131Marine

(4,135 posts)
4. I've been saying for weeks
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 01:03 PM
Nov 2020

Biden is going to win the popular vote by 12-15 million votes just based on the current margin in the average of the national polls. If Trump is somehow able to legitimately pull an EC win out of that it will show just how broken the system is.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
9. I've been saying 7 million popular vote win with 309 electoral votes.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 01:47 PM
Nov 2020


12-15 million popular vote win would send a Huge message.
 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
10. I prefer VEP because this provides a better estimate of who *could* vote...
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 02:00 PM
Nov 2020

regardless of registration status; given some states allow registration at the polls, it provides a ceiling for the various status.

Besides, this is how it is measured (there are only 153 million registered voters in the US, that means Early Voting turnout would be at 62% which it isn't): https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/articles/2014/07/31/measuring-voter-turnout

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,811 posts)
17. Same day registration is, according to the internet,
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 03:10 PM
Nov 2020

available in 21 states plus the District of Columbia. And some of them only allow that during the early voting period. If same day registration, through Election Day itself, were universal, then VEP would be very meaningful. But since it's not universal, the VEP is much less meaningful than those who actually are registered. If nothing else, both numbers should be included.

My opinion, anyway.

It used to be that many (maybe most? I don't know) states required that you have lived there some minimum time, sometimes as long as a year, before allowing you to register to vote. And closed registration at least thirty days before Election Day. At least those things have changed significantly.

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