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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis may be a case where the Electoral College actually saves us.
I'm no legal nor constitutional expert, BUT
the election process is laid out in the constitution that the winner of the EC is the winner of the election. EC votes aren't awarded until a given state finishes counting, and the SOS certifies their vote. If the orange gasbag declares himself the "winner" before he's won the required number of EC votes, he's essentially declaring that he's QUITTING THE PROCESS. There's no such thing as him being "ahead." We don't go by the popular vote, remember? Presidential candidates either win (with 270) or they lose. There's nothing to declare before that happens.
...my two cents (which may be all it's worth).
RGTIndy
(203 posts)I'm not ready to assume that; and I am a lawyer, for what it's worth.
TwilightZone
(25,454 posts)Declaring himself the winner is a meaningless exercise. It has no legal standing or basis.
Sogo
(4,986 posts)TwilightZone
(25,454 posts)You said that by declaring himself the winner, he's quitting the process. It's really nothing of the sort.
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)As the saying goes, 'It ain't over till it's over', and running your mouth while the ball is in play puts nothing up on the scoreboard.
Big Blue Marble
(5,057 posts)if we did not have to run the gauntlet of the EV; we would win going away.
ancianita
(36,016 posts)CA has the latest certification date, December 12.
https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results_certification_dates,_2020
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Dems in this Election.
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)as compared to North Dakota or Wyoming votes, it wouldn't even be a close race at this time. Let's assume it ends like the polls suggest, 53-44. That's a 14+ million vote difference (in 2016 terms). I suspect it will be larger than that in the final popular vote.
Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... just cease at some point. Hes going to pick a time when hes ahead in EC votes, and then claim that any rebound by Biden is the result of the fraudulent ballots hes been whistling about for the last few months.
He just wants something - anything - to challenge.
Im beginning to join the camp that he only wants to be able to mount some kind of chaos situation so he can attempt to negotiate a deal with Biden to avoid prosecution for himself and his family. Let me off the hook and Ill go away kind of thing. It fits with his perception of himself as a deal-maker and con-man.
better
(884 posts)If they do, it is officially time for full scale revolution.
lame54
(35,279 posts)The EC is the cause of our anxiety and the only path to Trump's theft
awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)and decide to go rogue and vote for Dump in a state Joe won? Is it possible?
Ms. Toad
(34,058 posts)It would be highly unlikely for Trump to be ahead in the popular vote. So any call he makes will be based on presumptive electoral votes.
So it isn't the electoral college saving us, it is the electoral college that he intends to use to make an early call despite being behind in the popular vote.