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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,412 posts)
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 04:47 PM Nov 2020

BREAKING: USPS reports delayed delivery of mail ballots sent by voters in the following ...

Dave Weigel Retweeted

BREAKING: USPS reports delayed delivery of mail ballots sent by voters in the following battleground areas (disclosure of latest data ordered by federal court):

Central Pennsylvania
Detroit
Greater Michigan
Mid-Carolinas
Greensboro


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BREAKING: USPS reports delayed delivery of mail ballots sent by voters in the following ... (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2020 OP
KnR Hekate Nov 2020 #1
K&R! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #2
See? It was all a good ol' coincidence........ nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2020 #3
Louis DeJoystick... Blue Owl Nov 2020 #4
DeJail DeJerk. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #20
K&R!!!!!!!! CountAllVotes Nov 2020 #5
Wow RGTIndy Nov 2020 #6
Someone, probably multiple people, need to be jailed for this. nt coti Nov 2020 #7
Oh, absolutely. nt crickets Nov 2020 #21
Blessings on whoever leaked that cell phone video of Miami-Dade. THis is all fallout from that. Amaryllis Nov 2020 #8
yeah, there was smoke before that... stillcool Nov 2020 #10
Is this grounds for allowing these locations more time to get the ballots counted? OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #9
That question will certainly end up in court. GOPers of course will say no. groundloop Nov 2020 #24
FYI, Greensboro is the central sorting station for much of the foothills ms liberty Nov 2020 #11
Greensboro is a major NDC A HERETIC I AM Nov 2020 #23
It handles our mail from Smith Mountain Lake, VA. phylny Nov 2020 #28
Kicking Mike 03 Nov 2020 #12
Now what....are they going to be delivered now? BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #13
How can it be too late? triron Nov 2020 #17
Election is tomorrow. BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #18
But it's not too late to deliver them yet. triron Nov 2020 #25
Get to the polls in person. Wear a mask and gloves and rehearse with a ballot copy off the Internet. CTyankee Nov 2020 #40
Election is tomorrow. BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #19
People who never received their ballots, now have to vote in person FakeNoose Nov 2020 #34
cause no one could see any of that coming uponit7771 Nov 2020 #14
I will never understand SoCalNative Nov 2020 #16
With any luck, mostly Republicans are that stupid. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #22
Exactly Rice4VP Nov 2020 #29
Drop boxes aren't that convenient. LisaM Nov 2020 #37
Yet in my county SoCalNative Nov 2020 #44
I have never thought Seattle had enough drop boxes, and fewer people than ever have cars. LisaM Nov 2020 #45
gee. how shocking. barbtries Nov 2020 #15
Central PA sticks out...hardly Dem stronghold. Designed to throw scent off? Why did people? Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #26
That stuck out to me too hvn_nbr_2 Nov 2020 #36
Frustrating cuz CNN reviewed PA and there was a big Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #49
K&R NoRoadUntravelled Nov 2020 #27
Sabotage the Post Office. Sabotage the ballots. Sabotage voting rights. keithbvadu2 Nov 2020 #30
You can still show up in person with proper ID. Your state should have a web page with what you CTyankee Nov 2020 #41
Trump and his sycophants can't get everything but they're trying. keithbvadu2 Nov 2020 #43
Central PA hurts Trump. wcast Nov 2020 #31
That is strange. Central PA is Killer's Stronghold. Tommymac Nov 2020 #48
I'm wondering if the Twitter account actually read the .PDF he linked.... A HERETIC I AM Nov 2020 #32
There is also sabotage by the printers who messed up the mailings FakeNoose Nov 2020 #33
Let us vote you assholes!!! Initech Nov 2020 #35
It's hard to imagine something like this happening, especially when it's so overt. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #38
Obviously John Q Public isn't squawking much. triron Nov 2020 #39
Jail DeJoy for contempt of court! That will speed up the mail! SunSeeker Nov 2020 #42
If they know this, why can't additional trucks be added to get them there by tomorrow??? judesedit Nov 2020 #46
I haven't noticed any delay in W MI but its tRump territory here. nt yaesu Nov 2020 #47

Blue Owl

(50,349 posts)
4. Louis DeJoystick...
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 04:48 PM
Nov 2020

can go fuck himself -- could it be any more obvious that this is a targeted attack on Democratic votes???

ms liberty

(8,573 posts)
11. FYI, Greensboro is the central sorting station for much of the foothills
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:04 PM
Nov 2020

Including here where I live. It sorts a lot of the mail in NC. We used to have a sorting station in Hickory, but it was closed in 06.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,366 posts)
23. Greensboro is a major NDC
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:40 PM
Nov 2020

or "Network Distribution Center"

The large facility on West Wendover Ave does not "Sort for the street" to my knowledge, as it is tractor trailers only, has about 130 loading dock doors and no Blue Postal service street delivery vehicles are loaded there.

My firm is one of the primary carriers at that center and I have been there about 20 times in the last 7 years.

It is a major facility, to be sure but it just sorts down to the first 3 digits of zipcode. In other words, mail that leaves there makes at least one more stop at another facility, where it would get a final sort down to the 5th digit and then be loaded onto a blue USPS vehicle for street delivery. Mail also leaves here destined for other major sorting centers all over the country. We have daily trips leaving there headed to California, for instance.

phylny

(8,379 posts)
28. It handles our mail from Smith Mountain Lake, VA.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:47 PM
Nov 2020

Fortunately, we sent our ballots in many weeks ago and they have been received.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
13. Now what....are they going to be delivered now?
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:08 PM
Nov 2020

Isn't it too late for the USPS to get the ballots in (as DeJoy had planned)?

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
40. Get to the polls in person. Wear a mask and gloves and rehearse with a ballot copy off the Internet.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:51 PM
Nov 2020

bring a lightweight folding chair. Dress for cold weather and bring a throw blanket if possible. Arrange for someone to bring you some food. Take a flashlight and a thermos of coffee or a Box of Joe and disposable cups. Don't forget all your ID needed for your state's regulations.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
34. People who never received their ballots, now have to vote in person
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:17 PM
Nov 2020

Problem is, a lot of them can't or won't because of Covid, or maybe they're shut-ins. The ones who can, will be so angry they'll be sure to vote against Chump no matter what.

It's going to be interesting to see the fallout from all of this. Chump may have pissed off the last seniors who stuck with him to the bitter end. This is the end.


SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
16. I will never understand
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:20 PM
Nov 2020

why ANYONE would mail a ballot with what was known to be going on. Especially in places where there are many drop box locations.

LisaM

(27,803 posts)
37. Drop boxes aren't that convenient.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:26 PM
Nov 2020

You're assuming everyone has access to a car or transit (neither of which are all that safe outside of Covid-clusters now) and can get to them. Our closest one was 1.3 miles away - we walked, but we are fit enough to do so, and I didn't want to walk alone because you have to cross a highway on an overpass and last year, someone tried to throw a woman walking alone on a highway overpass off it in downtown Seattle. So there are barriers, lots of barriers, safety concerns, being fully abled, and being close enough to walk during daylight hours all being right up there.

They've added drop boxes since Washington first went to all-mail voting but when they first did it, the closest one to me was seven miles away.


SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
44. Yet in my county
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:01 PM
Nov 2020

we have 400 drop boxes, with 6 in my city alone. But we don't use public transportation much here, so everyone is likely to have a car.
Plus the one closest to me is about a 7 block walk.

Additionally, unless you live in Tennessee, you can also drop your completed ballot off at a polling location, which may be closer than a drop box and you normally do not have to stand in line to do that.

LisaM

(27,803 posts)
45. I have never thought Seattle had enough drop boxes, and fewer people than ever have cars.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:08 PM
Nov 2020

I couldn't even swear that they are all on bus routes (which they've slashed dramatically in the last few years). I was just trying to point out some of the potential obstacles.

They are actively discouraging car ownership in Seattle right now, but in the meantime, they've cut a lot of neighborhood buses. I am not disabled, but I don't like walking around alone too much in some circumstances. I don't think there's intent by the city council, but it's becoming increasingly difficult for disabled people to get around here.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,486 posts)
36. That stuck out to me too
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:25 PM
Nov 2020

That stuck out to me too, having grown up there. I don't have any good ideas why. Conceivably something to do with Harrisburg, the state capital, being there. But I don't see any reason for that unless a lot of PA mail gets routed thru Harrisburg

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
49. Frustrating cuz CNN reviewed PA and there was a big
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 11:36 PM
Nov 2020

blue blob there, in central PA, and didn't even mention it. Just to worry about Butler area.

I went to school in Cresson. Traveled a lot in PA. Beautiful state. Hate that so much has turned red

Despite it all, is it just me, or does the governor there seem way too calm and not engaged? Hoping just my impression after seeing two interviews.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
41. You can still show up in person with proper ID. Your state should have a web page with what you
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:54 PM
Nov 2020

will need to show and where the polling places are located.

keithbvadu2

(36,776 posts)
43. Trump and his sycophants can't get everything but they're trying.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:00 PM
Nov 2020

Trump and his sycophants can't get everything but they're trying.

wcast

(595 posts)
31. Central PA hurts Trump.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 05:57 PM
Nov 2020

My parents, who would vote for Trump, did not as their absentee ballot request was not received. They mailed it 3 weeks ago.

So 2 less votes for Trump. 👍👏

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
48. That is strange. Central PA is Killer's Stronghold.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:27 PM
Nov 2020

If he 'bans' mail-in's from those counties he is going to lose. No doubts.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,366 posts)
32. I'm wondering if the Twitter account actually read the .PDF he linked....
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:00 PM
Nov 2020

and for that matter, whether or not any of the respondents to this thread did either.


READ THE PDF!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1looykX1o2wffwZWX_7mkWercrCzqKinV/view

Nothing in that 2 page document suggests anything out of the ordinary or nefarious. It mentions staffing shortages due to Covid which is completely understandable, but it also says repeatedly;

service scores in this district do not include ballots that are turned
around in local delivery units, which are delivered the same day with a near 100%
success rate.
(Emphasis mine)

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
33. There is also sabotage by the printers who messed up the mailings
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:09 PM
Nov 2020

We've learned about the mailings where the correct recipients received incorrectly addressed ballots/envelopes. It was a huge problem in Brooklyn, NY last month. This was not the fault of the U.S. Postal Service - it was the Repuke contractors (printers) who deliberately messed up the matched mailings. A similar screwup happened in Butler, PA but I haven't heard the details yet.

Some of the sabotage done by the USPS was not directed by the institutional management. For example "missing" bags of mail have been traced to rogue drivers and mail handlers who thought they were doing Chump a favor. They did it on their own, with no direction from their boss or co-workers. These guys need to be identified and fired, and in some cases that has already happened.


BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
38. It's hard to imagine something like this happening, especially when it's so overt.
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 06:43 PM
Nov 2020

They've even admitted that that was their plan. How can voter suppression be tolerated by anyone in a supposedly free country?

judesedit

(4,437 posts)
46. If they know this, why can't additional trucks be added to get them there by tomorrow???
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 07:09 PM
Nov 2020

Not making sense to me

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