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Skraxx

(2,970 posts)
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 04:44 PM Nov 2020

I Think Biden Campaign Already Knows (Axios)

This is messaging from a campaign that knows it's going to win:

Biden campaign believes it has 8-point battleground early vote lead

Joe Biden's campaign said Tuesday that it believes it has at least an 8-point advantage in battleground states after analyzing the nearly 100 million ballots that were cast early.

Why it matters: The campaign is arguing that it will be mathematically difficult for President Trump to close the gap with in-person voting on Election Day, and it's working to create the impression that a Biden victory is most likely.

The Biden camp also believes the former vice president can win 270 electoral votes even without Florida and Pennsylvania.
"That allows us to continue to have these multiple paths to victory," Jen O’Malley Dillon, Biden’s campaign manager, said in a briefing with reporters.
"Florida is a coin toss without a doubt," she added. In the Midwest, she said the campaign believes it is "ahead significantly — by 10 points or more coming into Election Day. "


https://www.axios.com/joe-biden-campaign-battleground-state-lead-55cd1298-3aab-4a11-8fd5-5efafc8b3220.html
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I Think Biden Campaign Already Knows (Axios) (Original Post) Skraxx Nov 2020 OP
I'm inclined to believe this TlalocW Nov 2020 #1
Yup, Exactly Skraxx Nov 2020 #2
I am inclined to agree, TlalocW Raster Nov 2020 #3
Very good points leftieNanner Nov 2020 #22
I so hope this is correct. I don't know how much more I can take of election day. BComplex Nov 2020 #4
we can hit 270... Chili Nov 2020 #5
I have to believe we'll win Virginia. llmart Nov 2020 #6
Yes Chili Nov 2020 #7
I sure hope so. llmart Nov 2020 #8
NC & VA Chili Nov 2020 #10
Oh, absolutely. phylny Nov 2020 #17
I don't think you meant to include SunnyATT Nov 2020 #23
no - Hillary states + MI, WI give Biden 258 Chili Nov 2020 #27
Are you sure? Oh wait you are saying win Ohio and Va. Then also Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #24
sorry! Chili Nov 2020 #28
We are ALL in our own heads tonight. For me - me and John King Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #32
LOL Chili Nov 2020 #34
They have a lot of reasons to be confident... Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #9
Wonderful news, and good job that they're getting the message out crickets Nov 2020 #11
Maybe he can beat Trumpsky in claiming victory. Harker Nov 2020 #12
The country is tacitly solidifying around that idea bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #13
We got this. nt birdographer Nov 2020 #14
Bookmarking for later. n/t Yavin4 Nov 2020 #15
I hope they're right - I got scared for the first time today - probably left over anxiety from 2106. kimbutgar Nov 2020 #16
Campaigns know much more about what's going on than we or the networks know. George II Nov 2020 #18
Trump and McConnell may be regretting pushing through Barrett 70sEraVet Nov 2020 #19
Can you imagine how much he would have won by without louis-t Nov 2020 #20
Without removing electronic mail sorters & mail boxes and voter roll purges and strict voter ID laws AdamGG Nov 2020 #25
270 without Florida or Pennsylvania AdamGG Nov 2020 #21
God I hope so Dopers_Greed Nov 2020 #26
Joe listens to his expert advisers. Trump listens to FOX News and Hate Radio. Midnight Writer Nov 2020 #29
I hope he's right. Catherine Vincent Nov 2020 #30
Me too. I have a terrible feeling like 2016, and I can't believe it's as close as the media is anneboleyn Nov 2020 #33
Lots of the historical voting trends are easy to understand, for the most part. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #31

TlalocW

(15,380 posts)
1. I'm inclined to believe this
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 04:49 PM
Nov 2020

First, Biden is not Trump. You don't have to lie to him so as not to incur his wrath. Second, he has a really good team full of top-notch talent that is good at doing the math. Trump's team is, once again, sycophants who don't have the skillset.

Fingers crossed.

TlalocW

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
22. Very good points
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 06:55 PM
Nov 2020

Part of the problem that the White House will face tonight and going forward is that they have been lying to him about winning because if they tell him the truth, he blows up at them. This is also why he will claim fraud when he loses.

Scary times.

Go Joe!

BComplex

(8,036 posts)
4. I so hope this is correct. I don't know how much more I can take of election day.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 04:50 PM
Nov 2020

I want so bad for Texas, NC and Florida to go for Biden. It's just a huge wish of mine.

Chili

(1,725 posts)
5. we can hit 270...
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 04:54 PM
Nov 2020

...without PA or FL if we win either OH, VA, NC or GA, not to mention TX. Any one of those - as long as we don't lose a single Hillary state - would do it.

Chili

(1,725 posts)
7. Yes
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 05:35 PM
Nov 2020

The latest poll I saw had Biden up by 2 (10/31). If today's voting exploded in VA like other states, it's a good chance it'll go into the Biden column!

llmart

(15,536 posts)
8. I sure hope so.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 05:36 PM
Nov 2020

They have been impressing me as a state lately. I also hope NC gets on board too.

Chili

(1,725 posts)
10. NC & VA
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 05:51 PM
Nov 2020

Obama was the first Dem to take VA (2008, 2012) and NC (2008) in decades. Hillary took VA too - can it be considered a blue state yet? Maybe not, but they'll be coming home! (sorta home! )

SunnyATT

(56 posts)
23. I don't think you meant to include
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 06:56 PM
Nov 2020

Virginia. It's GA, NC, Texas , or the combination of Ariz. (11 e.v.) and Ne (1 e.v.) that would put Biden over the 270 threshold w/o Fla. or Penn.

Chili

(1,725 posts)
27. no - Hillary states + MI, WI give Biden 258
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 07:06 PM
Nov 2020

That's without PA (but with WI, MI) - sorry, been watching Kornacki and that CNN guy (Dana Bash's husband) all week!

MI & WI can't be caught by Trump (it is believed).... so:

With MI & WI, he only needs 12, just one of these: VA, OH, GA, or of course TX, that's IT. He only needs one of them.

Sorry for the confusion!

Chili

(1,725 posts)
28. sorry!
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 07:07 PM
Nov 2020

Please see my #23 post above: Hillary's states + Mi & WI gives Joe 258. He then only needs 12 to get to 270.

Sorry for the confusion, had assumed "current" 258 in my head because Trump probably cannot get MI, WI.

Chili

(1,725 posts)
34. LOL
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 09:47 PM
Nov 2020

I know what you mean!

And I'm flipping back & forth between the two K's - Kornacki & King - and realized, Hillary took VA, so it's OH, GA & NC, if PA doesn't go Biden.

And Florida? I didn't really have hope for it.

crickets

(25,962 posts)
11. Wonderful news, and good job that they're getting the message out
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 06:00 PM
Nov 2020

ahead of everyone, especially trump. Everyone keep voting! 🤞 for GA!

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
13. The country is tacitly solidifying around that idea
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 06:18 PM
Nov 2020

It's unspoken, no winks, just calm subtle language and reassurance. It's like sanity is going to bite Trump hard, and Trump will be the last to know, right after the GOP Senate traitor-tots find out.

They had Trump on the ropes, they could have removed him. They sided with him for political reasons, ignored all the evidence, and COVID bit them in their big fat Republican arses.

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
16. I hope they're right - I got scared for the first time today - probably left over anxiety from 2106.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 06:25 PM
Nov 2020

I heard on my local news here in San Francisco that mf45 has a good chance of being re elected. They showed these supporter cult members of his standing over a freeway overpass and a bunch of people honking. Of course that area is very purple ( contra costa) a lot of racist types. A longtime friend of mine started dating a mf45 supporter and she is now in the qanon cult asking for prayers for MF45 to save America and get re elected. I decided to unfriend her as I think she is ignorant and I’m not wasting my time with her anymore. I don’t trust her judgement.

70sEraVet

(3,493 posts)
19. Trump and McConnell may be regretting pushing through Barrett
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 06:42 PM
Nov 2020

The evangelicals were willing to put up with Trump's scandals so they could get a conservative Supreme Court. They have it now, so they don't need to hold their noses and go to the ballet box. Trump would have been smarter to hold the Barrett confirmation for ransom; "No conservative justice unless you re-elect me".

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
20. Can you imagine how much he would have won by without
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 06:54 PM
Nov 2020

voter suppression, dirty tricks, threatening phone messages, post office sabotage, etc, etc?

AdamGG

(1,288 posts)
25. Without removing electronic mail sorters & mail boxes and voter roll purges and strict voter ID laws
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 07:00 PM
Nov 2020

and all the other bullshit, the last Republican to be elected President would have been in 1988.

I'd love to see a Democratic House/Senate/President enact some national voting reform that made it easy to register and vote, but it would probably get struck down by the right wing Supreme Court.

AdamGG

(1,288 posts)
21. 270 without Florida or Pennsylvania
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 06:55 PM
Nov 2020

would mean Arizona or NC in the bag. Florida will give complete results tonight, so it will be a big load off worrying about the lagging states if that gets called for Joe tonight.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
26. God I hope so
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 07:04 PM
Nov 2020

The first signs will be how Florida, Georgia, and North Carolina fall.

If we pick-up any of these, I think we will cruise through the rest of the night. If we lose all three, that's a sign we're in trouble.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
33. Me too. I have a terrible feeling like 2016, and I can't believe it's as close as the media is
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 08:54 PM
Nov 2020

claiming — seriously, without manipulation, how is it again and again coming down to a relatively small number of voters in key electoral college states?! Argh! I feel sick. I can’t believe this shit again!

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
31. Lots of the historical voting trends are easy to understand, for the most part.
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 07:34 PM
Nov 2020

It's not at all difficult to picture the Bible Belt as deep red, and CA and NY as deep blue, but PA kind of mystifies me. Is it the hangovers of steel and coal? Labour has typically been Left-ish, at least in most places. And Philadelphia? How is that not solid blue?

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