I can't believe some of the defeatist posts occurring here. Can we at least wait until the blue

[still_one]

wall states have reported before implying it is over

My personal feeling is we will get 290 electoral college votes. Anything above that will be a bonus

[musette_sf]

1. K&R

[a kennedy]

2. and gawd love ya.......I'm not helping with my posts......sorry.

[onecaliberal]

16. 2016 PTSD

[a kennedy]

17. Thank you

[MissB]

3. Same

I think Ohio will go to biden but I’m not sure about North Carolina. Everything else seems to be on track with my expectations.

[writes3000]

4. Way too much defeatism along with a fair number of trolls.

[Tommymac]

24. +1

[Dem2]

5. We had higher expectations

I don't think we expected a barn-burner nail biter into the wee hours.

Oh, well

[Thekaspervote]

6. FL was always a toss up, GA a stretch.. not surprising

[ismnotwasm]

7. Thank you

None of this is unexpected.

[Blue Owl]

8. No shit!

Way, way too early to start counting chickens with so many eggs yet unhatched...

[cally]

9. I don't understand the doom and gloom

Is there something I’m missing? We lost Florida, possibly Georgia, but we didn’t expect to win those. They were reach states.

What am I missing?

[agingdem]

10. this is exactly what happened in 2018 House race

I have no idea who decided that 3/4 of the states are of no importance...

[still_one]

11. I am in California, and we are still voting

[Mike 03]

14. THANK YOU. This is similar to 2018. For the first

two hours all we heard was what a horrendous disappointment 2018 was going to be for Democrats, and there was no blue wave.

I'm not worrying yet, and I'm seeing people say we've lost states that aren't even half counted and where Biden is leading.

[Windy City Charlie]

12. The underperforming

Biden isn't performing as well as has been polled, is my reasoning.

[rso]

15. Biden

Depends where, Biden is over performing in Ohio, Texas and NC so far.

[Mike 03]

22. NC is an example I was thinking of. 70% of the vote is counted and

Biden leads by four points, but some people are saying "WE'VE LOST NORTH CAROLINA"

[SMC22307]

33. 82% reporting w/ Trump 50% and Biden 49%...

but it doesn't look as if Wake and Mecklenburg counties are in yet.

[radius777]

20. underperforming w/Latinos but but doing better in suburbs

and with whites than Hillary. So the bottom hasn't fallen out at all and we had large polling leads in the Midwest that doesn't have alot of Latinos.

[MerryBlooms]

13. Yep, lots of trashing threads and ignores.

[octoberlib]

18. People are traumatized by 2016 so when we lost Florida they started expecting

the worst. I'm not , though. It ain't over until it's over. The thing is Trump is such a horrible President and person that it's just unbelievable he's doing as well as he is.

[Eliot Rosewater]

19. I hope you are right, for me it is knowing that in states like FL there is MASSIVE election fraud

taking place whether by the postmaster nazi general or the various other ways a GOP state blocks voting.

That Obama could win there twice and all of a sudden our candidates cant win.

Ohio too...I am the most pessimistic person here and I have some hope...but I need drugs, Ativan or something

I was just posting imagine the what is it, 50 million adults who didnt bother to vote, who dont have nervous stomachs or shaking hands, who didnt think there was an important enough reason to vote. They dont know their literal freedom is on the line.

That is bad.

[onecaliberal]

21. Where I live, we have another two hours of voting and I believe the biggest electoral prize.

[radius777]

23. People expected an easier win, we're going to have to

fight it out and hope the blue wall holds.

If we get one of these states (AZ, GA, NC or OH) our odds would start to look much better.

[GoCubsGo]

25. Yes, it is maddening.

I am hitting that little "X" in the box way more than I would like tonight. FFS.

[Blue_true]

26. things were like that in 2018 for the midterms.

I don't have the same sinking feeling that I had in 2016 as I watched results role in. In 2016, Ohio went red out of the gate and Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania were pink tossups really late in the vote count, even after the big urban areas had almost completely reported.

I am not giving up on Florida yet. Palm Beach County and Broward County always report late. unless something changes, they are strong blue areas.

[littlemissmartypants]

27. Just trash the thread. Block the poster and roll on.

You carry the flag. I'll take up the rear.

[UTUSN]

28. K&R

[Jakes Progress]

29. Definition of "defeatist" please.

You can celebrate that we will likely eke out a bare win for the WH by slimly beating the worst man ever to run for the office. Or that we will go back to mcconnell led Senate with cornyn and collins still sitting.

I'm not defeatist. I am pragmatically commenting on the demise of the humanity of our country. Sure trump stole the office and disenfranchised thousands. But just look at that man and look at the republicans running things. How in a country of decent humanity could those dregs get even 5% of the vote. Maybe in 2016, stupid people were fooled. But we've had four years of nastiness, ineptitude, criminality, and cruelty. And still he gets close.

We haven't been defeated. But we haven't won. I just have a hard time celebrating that in some parts of the country there is a small majority of our populace who don't think it is good to cage children, kill innocent black people, or render millions without health coverage.

[still_one]

30. Definition of defeatist, wait until the f**king votes are counted

[Jakes Progress]

32. Read my f**king post before replying.

That would be courteous.

Then comment on something other than the headline.

(Oh. And that is not the definition of "defeatist". )

[still_one]

35. I wasn't referring to you specifically, but those who have already written off states before they

have been called, and all the votes have been counted, and that is what my OP was about, and what I was calling defeatist

As to your other points, when you have 40% of the populace who are racist, or not caring if a racist, sexist, and bigot are president, that is a problem

Also, in 2016 there was no ambiguity that trump wasn’t a racist, sexist, and bigot

I have no idea if we are going to win or lose, but every vote better be counted before I say the country can go to hell

[still_one]

38. Enough votes have been counted, and I have to agree with you, whatever happens, this election isn't

a repudiation of the nazi in the WH, and if we are lucky enough to win, it is going to be very close

[BlueInPhilly]

34. Trashed most of them

They should drink some bourbon, pop an ambien, and go to bed. Instead of tormenting the rest of us.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

36. A lot of them by long time members with low post counts

If you know what I mean

[still_one]

37. Very true.