One thing is for sure: polls are the new astrology

[RealityBasedNewYorkr]

Wildly off, totally unreliable, no better than random chance

[PTWB]

1. They're way, way off.

Trump is up by 300,000 in FL. That’s way more than just the Cubans in Miami Dade. The polls are fucking wrong, again.

Joe might make it but it’s gonna be really, really close.

[Yavin4]

2. How so? Where exactly were they off?

They never said that Biden was going to win a 49 state blowout like Reagan did in 1984.

[PTWB]

5. Everywhere, man.

[Yavin4]

7. Everywhere? So, every vote has been counted?

I did not know that.

[PTWB]

10. No, and you know that's not what I'm saying.

Everywhere that we have data - so far - the polls have been off. They're off in OH in Biden’s favor but everywhere else in Trump’s favor.

[Yavin4]

13. Again, do you have the final vote counts in those states?

If not, how can you say that the polls were off?

[PTWB]

15. Never mind.

Have a pleasant evening.

[Ace Rothstein]

3. Georgia appears to be way the fuck off.

[exboyfil]

8. What kind of voting machines do they use?

Time to get the conspiracy tin foil hat on.

[Eliot Rosewater]

9. Either the polls are off or massive election fraud and voter obstruction is taking place.

[Celerity]

11. both, especially purging, then cock-blocking mail-in ballots and forcing 10 hours voting line waits

[uponit7771]

16. Not yet, less than 40% reported right now

[Drunken Irishman]

4. We can't say for sure the polls are off.

FL, NC and GA were all within one or two points either way.

[PTWB]

14. I think we can at this point.

The same folks that had Joe up in these states had him up nationally and we can extrapolate SOME information from the 50 million votes already cast. Trump is actually up by nearly a million in the popular vote.

Yes, it’s early, but if Biden was going to win by anywhere near that much in the popular vote we would see it

We have enough information to say that the polls were off, just not enough to make meaningful conclusions about where and how much.

[Claustrum]

6. Yeah. If "shy Trump voters" are a real thing and they lie to pollster in a significant numbers.

We can't rely on any of them anymore. I still want to see more though, polling in FL was wrong in 2018 too but other places are fine. I want to see the rest before I form an opinion.

[radius777]

12. Latinos were the miss this time.

Kornacki was talking about the border areas of TX, we did worse this time than '16, and I think those areas are working class Latinos.

[calikid]

17. It would be a good idea if

you limited your posts to something you know about and understand, that way you wouldn't look so stupid!