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One thing is for certain, I'm never believing the polls again. (Original Post) BlueStater Nov 2020 OP
Technology and social changes may have rendered accurate polling Codeine Nov 2020 #1
Hillary used the wrong container description AirmensMom Nov 2020 #2
Hang in... we have a long way to go! jimlup Nov 2020 #3
We have to go back to Howard Dean's 50 state strategy and forget the rest! Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #4
I completely agree with this. joshcryer Nov 2020 #18
Which polls were wrong? W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #5
Every damn one breaks for the Republicans exboyfil Nov 2020 #9
Voter suppression/depression/intimidation can have that effect. W_HAMILTON Nov 2020 #10
+1. It's just too difficult to constantly pull an 'inside straight' radius777 Nov 2020 #15
well look at SC for example qazplm135 Nov 2020 #11
True... SkyDaddy7 Nov 2020 #14
I think I'm with you on this- Alliepoo Nov 2020 #6
Problem is Windy City Charlie Nov 2020 #7
Problem is not pollsters, Trump voters are ashamed to admit at140 Nov 2020 #8
National results look like they'll have a normal polling error DrToast Nov 2020 #12
yes but two in a row qazplm135 Nov 2020 #13
I'm done with them! 🤬 nt Raine Nov 2020 #16
HACK!!!! Skid Rogue Nov 2020 #17
The polls don't matter when it is stolen. tinrobot Nov 2020 #19
That was my 2016 lesson, Totally Tunsie Nov 2020 #20

AirmensMom

(14,637 posts)
2. Hillary used the wrong container description
Tue Nov 3, 2020, 11:58 PM
Nov 2020

when she said "basket of deplorables." It's much bigger than a basket.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
3. Hang in... we have a long way to go!
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:00 AM
Nov 2020

This has a long way to go... the early votes have NOT been counted in the Midwest. That is because of the Refucks.

W_HAMILTON

(7,840 posts)
5. Which polls were wrong?
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:00 AM
Nov 2020

Once again, it seems that people are more incapable of understanding polls rather than them having some huge failing.

Florida, Georgia, Texas, North Carolina, etc. were all basically toss-ups. It's not surprising if we lose them by a couple of points. That's what the polls and their margins of error allowed for.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
11. well look at SC for example
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:03 AM
Nov 2020

had it tied and Graham is winning by almost double digits.

Had it tied in GA and up in FL and those were off. Tied or off one in Texas.

They weren't amazingly off, but there's a clear steady pro dem lean in the polling that underestimated Trump by a few percentage points almost across the board...certainly in the South.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
14. True...
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:05 AM
Nov 2020

And people only look at the polls that they like when others might be telling a different story.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
7. Problem is
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:00 AM
Nov 2020

Problem is is that many of the electorate don't take the polling seriously. Therefore, they don't answer them truthfully.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
12. National results look like they'll have a normal polling error
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:03 AM
Nov 2020

Biden looks headed for a 5-6% popular vote win. The 538 average was 8%. A 2-3% error is not that big.

State polls, especially FL, may be a different story.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
20. That was my 2016 lesson,
Wed Nov 4, 2020, 12:19 AM
Nov 2020

and why I refused to get over-excited about any numbers leading up to today. My attitude has been that today is the poll that counts, not any others. It helps a little.

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